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DeanNoriko

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As much as we all rag on Selebus; The man does deliver, most often on time, and they all seem to have roughly the same amount(Or more!) of content. So many people abandon their games, even when being paid for it. He clearly treats this as his full time job, which I appreciate. Some content creators make it to the point where they can quit their main job...and don't move to making their creative content as their full time job.

If we assume that he wrote the 55k words from the last update, till now...that's the length of the average science fiction novel. Every month. For years.

I'm an author; that shit is hard! At the height of my popularity, I was lucky to manage 15k words a month. I wasn't being paid nearly as much, never enough to replace my full time job, but even then I don't think I could have pulled another 40k words to save my life. That's simply ALOT of writing.

For added context:

Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy: 46k words
Fahrenheit 451: 46k words
Slaughterhouse-Five: 50k words
The Martian: 105k words

The guy is simply VERY productive, and I do appreciate that. If I have to wait a month for my next fix, I need it to be worth it. :p
I agree, I have said it before but as much as we guys hate on him, he is reliable. He is certainly no George R.R. Martin of the degenerate visual novels, to put it that way :LUL:

The comparison with other (actual) novels is interesting, but of course you can't really compare these works to something like this.
I just recently re-read Slaughterhouse Five and the truth is that it is not the longest book in the world (but as you mentioned, many famous book are of that length), however, they still manage to tell a whole story. They are concise, the authors carefully choose which topics to cover and how deep to go into the story.
Funnily enough, exactly in this book the author openly states that he intended a much longer book more closely following the war, but ended up just writing his experiences into a sci-fi novel that left out a lot, intentionally.

What I'm trying to say is that a classic book that is published and sold in book stores goes through a completely different completion process. It gets rewritten, changed completely, revised by an editor, restructured, etc. until the finished product is (ideally) in perfect shape.
A typical VN can't do that. Maybe Sel would want to (though I have my doubts), maybe the product would be amazing if he just sat down 5 years and trimmed the whole plot down to a single story from start to finish. But that doesn't pay his bills.
The way these types of games work is that you publish update after update. And if the author does decide to change it halfway through (which occasionally happens, you might know some example) the customers provide a shitstorm and his financial backing is in danger. So obviously most people just stick by it and ride it through. Some even blatantly milk it. Don't hate the player, hate the game, I guess.
Which, again, also highlights how much better he is at delivering good and rich content on a regular basis compared to many, many other developers.

Tl:dr: Yes it's impressive, but to some extent, it's just the nature of the medium.
 

TBone9

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We also haven't seen Maki's bare boobs have we?
Would love to see a scene where Akira is visiting the porn shop and Maki asks him if he would like to see her boobs, and when he says yes, she reaches under the counter and brings up a set of fake boobs and sets them on the counter. After this, his reaction should simply be to turn and walk out without saying a word, while narrating to himself, "Maki, Maki, there are some things you just don't joke about."
 

Moonflare

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15 events on an update is, I think, the lowest we have ever gone. Usually it's 18 (when it's less).

Since he pulled the Uta events from 0.56, the one thing I can think of is that they must be huge events in terms of wordcount, to justify so few events on an update.

Or Selebus' just unable to write more due to the move to Japan (which would also explain why he moved the Uta sex to 0.57, so that something significant happening could lessen the impact of less events).
 

SlidingSubject

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15 events on an update is, I think, the lowest we have ever gone. Usually it's 18 (when it's less).

Since he pulled the Uta events from 0.56, the one thing I can think of is that they must be huge events in terms of wordcount, to justify so few events on an update.

Or Selebus' just unable to write more due to the move to Japan (which would also explain why he moved the Uta sex to 0.57, so that something significant happening could lessen the impact of less events).
Knowing how consistent Selebus is with delivering LiL, what were the updates with 18 events?
 

Moonflare

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He usually alternates between 18-20 events on a regular basis. Just from the trigger guides:
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you can also just read the changelog:
Which points that the last time we had 15 events was on:
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And this was when the updates were twice per month, so it was actually more than 20 events per month (if we were to convert to the current schedule).
 

JelF547

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Since Sara, Sana, Miku and Molly already have their headpats, whom do you expect to be patted next? It should be two of Kaori, Uta, and Yuk unless we are getting a joke one (like Noodles)
 

shmurfer

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It's gotta be Uta and Kaori right? Only other person it could be is Yuki, and she's not ready to see anyone with Yukiblock still enabled.

I don't think we have room for a comedy headpat unless Sel is planning an orgy of a cycle eventually. He's already behind in invites at current rates vs current 4 cycle estimates remaining before dark route.
 

TenthDoctor

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Develeper of the game is an asshole, almost everyone here hates him. Game has terrible animation and bad sex scenes. Sandbox and event triggers are horrible, game has ridiculous puzzles doing them without puzzle guide is almost impossible or really time consuming.

And yet, even after listing its flaws, the fact that there are over 3,100 pages of forum discussion about the story and its characters shows that it’s worth reading.
You forgot he's also arrogant and can't handle criticism well on things that aren't his writing.
 

TenthDoctor

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As much as we all rag on Selebus; The man does deliver, most often on time, and they all seem to have roughly the same amount(Or more!) of content. So many people abandon their games, even when being paid for it. He clearly treats this as his full time job, which I appreciate. Some content creators make it to the point where they can quit their main job...and don't move to making their creative content as their full time job.

If we assume that he wrote the 55k words from the last update, till now...that's the length of the average science fiction novel. Every month. For years.

I'm an author; that shit is hard! At the height of my popularity, I was lucky to manage 15k words a month. I wasn't being paid nearly as much, never enough to replace my full time job, but even then I don't think I could have pulled another 40k words to save my life. That's simply ALOT of writing.

For added context:

Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy: 46k words
Fahrenheit 451: 46k words
Slaughterhouse-Five: 50k words
The Martian: 105k words

The guy is simply VERY productive, and I do appreciate that. If I have to wait a month for my next fix, I need it to be worth it. :p
Oh, he's a great writer. But he's also and arrogant asshole who believes everything in LiL is god's gift to the world.
Just say something negative about his "puzzles" in the discord. He'll read it even if he's not part of the chat and go off on you.
 
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