I have this feeling that nothing matters, everything is pointless, this game is a waste of time, it only exists to torment you, but you can only be tormented if you let yourself be. And you can only let yourself be tormented if you cling to hope that nothing will go wrong and good things will happen. What good things? There is no good things here. Everything good is taken away from you. Everything bad will continue to happen and it may never end until we are passed ch4 and the dark routes which could take years before they are out. That's years of waiting for the light at the end of the tunnel. Did the dev go too far? Why am I here? Why are you here? Touch some grass. You don't want to touch some grass. We don't want to touch some grass. So we will suffer together. Because it's already too late to turn back now. I don't want to feel anymore.
I completely understand your feelings here. The nihilism of the game gets to you. I’ve had to take breaks from time to time — and you’ve played all the way through.
Three things keep me coming back:
The characters are wonderful — and we still have a lot to learn about them
Sel’s plan for where he’s going suggests it’s going to be bad and may get worse (the dark route — though leave it to Selebus for the “dark” route just to have really low lighting or something), but will eventually come to a satisfying conclusion (if not necessarily a happy one)
Himawari, that snarky little bundle of light, is the future
So I’ll stick around, for a while at least. Hope you’ll stay with us.
I have this feeling that nothing matters, everything is pointless, this game is a waste of time, it only exists to torment you, but you can only be tormented if you let yourself be. And you can only let yourself be tormented if you cling to hope that nothing will go wrong and good things will happen. What good things? There is no good things here. Everything good is taken away from you. Everything bad will continue to happen and it may never end until we are passed ch4 and the dark routes which could take years before they are out. That's years of waiting for the light at the end of the tunnel. Did the dev go too far? Why am I here? Why are you here? Touch some grass. You don't want to touch some grass. We don't want to touch some grass. So we will suffer together. Because it's already too late to turn back now. I don't want to feel anymore.
Suffering gives us perspective in our modern closed-off lives. It helps us appreciate the good things, no matter how small or fleeting. Everything has a balance.
By subjecting ourselves to fictional tragic experiences, it shows us that things could be much much worse in our real life and helps keeps us from becoming jaded and bitter.
There are many people today that refuse to acknowledge the bad, constantly seeking out things that make them feel good and neglecting to accept that there must be a down to counter every up. And before they know it, every little molehill becomes a mountain of an issue to them. Every little thing sets them off.
By accepting the darkness in humanity and staring it in the face, the good things will appear even brighter.
Suffering gives us perspective in our modern closed-off lives. It helps us appreciate the good things, no matter how small or fleeting. Everything has a balance.
By subjecting ourselves to fictional tragic experiences, it shows us that things could be much much worse in our real life and helps keeps us from becoming jaded and bitter.
There are many people today that refuse to acknowledge the bad, constantly seeking out things that make them feel good and neglecting to accept that there must be a down to counter every up. And before they know it, every little molehill becomes a mountain of an issue to them. Every little thing sets them off.
By accepting the darkness in humanity and staring it in the face, the good things will appear even brighter.
:nods: It's why we love sad songs/books/movies/plays/TV commercials/whatever -- experiencing fictional grief and pain allows us to process our own.
Now, there's a fine line between writing tragedy and wallowing in the feels. Bleak-for-bleak's-sake sucks just as hard as sunshine-and-daisies/unicorns-and-rainbows. So far, it seems to me Selebus has managed to mix in enough delight, joy, and humor to keep the story from being completely indulgent and emo. It feels as if he's really trying to explore issues of trauma and healing. But he may prove me wrong.
Ay, genious people. Have you discussed the schizo that Kaori asked Ami what's her favorite animal is and she says it is a cat. Kaori then tells that she will remember it *time-skip* we get Nyaori. With all of this Kaori possession and Ami supposedly is orchestrating things, seems fishy ay?
Attention please. This is me saying that I am done (for now). I am going on a long break from this game. Sorry, I just can't do it. Everything felt so pointless and from this point: Yumi showed up next to Ayane and past Maya right before the rooftop reset, I enabled skip unseen and just rushed through everything. So I have no read everything but I've seen things in fast forward. This was a decision I made to force demotivate myself not to keep going. Perhaps one day I will return, but for now, I have a minor headache, I want to play a couple different games, I want to sleep and I want get my mind off everything.
I could elaborate on my decision through specific questions but right now, I just want to be done with this. So from the point I mention within the spoiler that I enabled unseen text, feel free to tell me anything negative that happens after. Spare no details. Or just... don't say anything at all. It's not like I will be back any time soon and I will probably have reset to a point where I won't care for a while. I don't know, this is all zero effort rambling at this point but as I said, I don't want to be here right now.
Since the chapter isn't done yet, I can't really post the completed data yet, or more like I won't. But rest assured that this game made me write like 600-700k characters worth of text which is like 10 times my previous best on a large game.
So yeah. Goodbye I guess. Will still be replying to things after this post for a while once I cleared my head for some hours.
And if you asked me today if I regret playing this game, I would tell you I would rather jump off a skyscraper than play this. Fuck this abomination of a trauma fest. I wouldn't recommend this to my worst enemy.
You will probably see me post in Eternum's forum next and some other games.
And please. Don't subject other players to this if they go out of their way to ask the community before they get started about specific traumatizing things. For example, I asked if characters die in the game inducing trauma on you, I got a vague answer that wasn't satisfactory at all. You can laugh all you want at my weakness, but yeah. I've never been emotionally hurt so many times and actually wholeheartedly regretted the experience despite having what I refer to as "an iron stomach".
Attention please. This is me saying that I am done (for now). I am going on a long break from this game. Sorry, I just can't do it. Everything felt so pointless and from this point: Yumi showed up next to Ayane and past Maya right before the rooftop reset, I enabled skip unseen and just rushed through everything. So I have no read everything but I've seen things in fast forward. This was a decision I made to force demotivate myself not to keep going. Perhaps one day I will return, but for now, I have a minor headache, I want to play a couple different games, I want to sleep and I want get my mind off everything.
I could elaborate on my decision through specific questions but right now, I just want to be done with this. So from the point I mention within the spoiler that I enabled unseen text, feel free to tell me anything negative that happens after. Spare no details. Or just... don't say anything at all. It's not like I will be back any time soon and I will probably have reset to a point where I won't care for a while. I don't know, this is all zero effort rambling at this point but as I said, I don't want to be here right now.
Since the chapter isn't done yet, I can't really post the completed data yet, or more like I won't. But rest assured that this game made me write like 600-700k characters worth of text which is like 10 times my previous best on a large game.
So yeah. Goodbye I guess. Will still be replying to things after this post for a while once I cleared my head for some hours.
And if you asked me today if I regret playing this game, I would tell you I would rather jump off a skyscraper than play this. Fuck this abomination of a trauma fest. I wouldn't recommend this to my worst enemy.
You will probably see me post in Eternum's forum next and some other games.
And please. Don't subject other players to this if they go out of their way to ask the community before they get started about specific traumatizing things. For example, I asked if characters die in the game inducing trauma on you, I got a vague answer that wasn't satisfactory at all. You can laugh all you want at my weakness, but yeah. I've never been emotionally hurt so many times and actually wholeheartedly regretted the experience despite having what I refer to as "an iron stomach".
It could've gotten weirder Sel was originally gonna do the AMA for the fan fest as different characters but decided against it and you already can guess why.
It's just a game dude... like, it has some powerful moments, but it's still just a bit of fiction... you should probably stick to harem fuckfests with staunchly anti-NTR devs for a while... no bad, all good fuck yes times, much joy....
It's a rare game. In a sense that mc (and quite a lot of characters) are bad, I mean not ideal. And it's quite healing to watch them going through their not-ideal decisions, mistakes. Of course their f*ck-ups and, even more, reactions on those f*ck-ups (yes, it's by the specific rules of the game world, but nevertheless) are very much muffled, but it's still a game, some sort of vax or paddling pool for IRL (psychologically this time), not a real life itself.
That and surprisingly good English per 1000 words (or out of 10, I dunno them measurements) is what've bought me.
Oh boy people aren't gonna like that. After that people are going to be reminded that if you want to sex a certain character you secretly want to sex Sel also. Especially Rin and Maya since he said they are most like himself.
Attention please. This is me saying that I am done (for now). I am going on a long break from this game. Sorry, I just can't do it. Everything felt so pointless and from this point: Yumi showed up next to Ayane and past Maya right before the rooftop reset, I enabled skip unseen and just rushed through everything. So I have no read everything but I've seen things in fast forward. This was a decision I made to force demotivate myself not to keep going. Perhaps one day I will return, but for now, I have a minor headache, I want to play a couple different games, I want to sleep and I want get my mind off everything.
I could elaborate on my decision through specific questions but right now, I just want to be done with this. So from the point I mention within the spoiler that I enabled unseen text, feel free to tell me anything negative that happens after. Spare no details. Or just... don't say anything at all. It's not like I will be back any time soon and I will probably have reset to a point where I won't care for a while. I don't know, this is all zero effort rambling at this point but as I said, I don't want to be here right now.
Since the chapter isn't done yet, I can't really post the completed data yet, or more like I won't. But rest assured that this game made me write like 600-700k characters worth of text which is like 10 times my previous best on a large game.
So yeah. Goodbye I guess. Will still be replying to things after this post for a while once I cleared my head for some hours.
And if you asked me today if I regret playing this game, I would tell you I would rather jump off a skyscraper than play this. Fuck this abomination of a trauma fest. I wouldn't recommend this to my worst enemy.
You will probably see me post in Eternum's forum next and some other games.
And please. Don't subject other players to this if they go out of their way to ask the community before they get started about specific traumatizing things. For example, I asked if characters die in the game inducing trauma on you, I got a vague answer that wasn't satisfactory at all. You can laugh all you want at my weakness, but yeah. I've never been emotionally hurt so many times and actually wholeheartedly regretted the experience despite having what I refer to as "an iron stomach".
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Playing this game was a mistake and I'm holding everyone responsible who didn't have the heart to warn me on day one when I asked very specific questions.
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Okay, I'm not going to make fun of you but I am going to call you out for blaming everyone for not literally spoiling the game for you on day one when no one could have known how this game was going to affect you, especially when you went on a rant about having a much smaller detail like Akira's name spoiled for you. If you knew that the game could potentially affect you this badly, then why take the chance of starting it? And if you didn't know, then how would anyone else on this forum? Just remind yourself that nothing you read is real, move on to a more pleasant game, and think carefully about whether you want to risk coming back to it.
I very rarely read here so I might not have the whole picture, but it's funny to me regardless.
>how dare you spoil me on character name
>later on then complains about people not spoiling him on something more important than a name
>quits the game over it
Like I get maybe being annoyed about being spoiled on his name since that scene with the reveal was and still is one of my favorites in general (the events in that time frame were great overall), but complaining later about even bigger things not being told to you after having gotten mad about a name being spoiled just makes me giggle.
Does anyone know how to reduce brightness of flash screen? after playing last night my eyes were extremely sore. isit possible to manually adjust the visibility of the white flash screen in game folder? especially for those ultra-long continuous flashes lasting more than ten seconds? For people with nearsightedness, it feels like a critical hit.
It's just a game dude... like, it has some powerful moments, but it's still just a bit of fiction... you should probably stick to harem fuckfests with staunchly anti-NTR devs for a while... no bad, all good fuck yes times, much joy....
Okay, I'm not going to make fun of you but I am going to call you out for blaming everyone for not literally spoiling the game for you on day one when no one could have known how this game was going to affect you, especially when you went on a rant about having a much smaller detail like Akira's name spoiled for you. If you knew that the game could potentially affect you this badly, then why take the chance of starting it? And if you didn't know, then how would anyone else on this forum? Just remind yourself that nothing you read is real, move on to a more pleasant game, and think carefully about whether you want to risk coming back to it.
If you are gonna come at my over my eccentric behavior, at least know what started it all. I've been posting almost daily for 73 days now and it all started with me asking and pleading for very specific spoilers to confirm if I'm going to be heavily hurt by the game. At the end of it, I was convinced to try it. Had I gotten serious answers, I would not be here.
Nothing feels right anymore. Playing this game was a mistake and I'm holding everyone responsible who didn't have the heart to warn me on day one when I asked very specific questions. One of them being if a character dies and I got really vague answers. So if Nodoka didn't fucking die there, then I don't know what counts as death in the first place. And if Maya didn't technically die, then what? You can't just dance around the idea of death when it very clearly IS death and it WILL affect you over a long period of time.
You've skipped through it so you should already know that in the next update Nodoka is back. Things get reset when resets happen, which is why shit can go down at reset time. We've seen Makoto try to kill herself, we've seen tons of Maya being hanged and crucified during happy events. Even Ami was basically crucified and flayed during the CH3 reset, and there's a chance that's why her personality's different.
So is your problem seeing murder? Seeing dead bodies? or the lasting death of a character? The last one hasn't happened yet, and realistically cannot happen. It's also what you asked about in my opinion.
Even if the dark route changes the rules of engagement and characters dying during that time stay dead (Like I imagine Makoto would be the first to try to kill herself in front of the others to prove you can't die, except it just happens this time, maybe a moment of her realising her mistake before she bleeds out), the mechanisms to bring them back after they do what they need to do during dark route exists. They can just reset people back to life.
The closest thing to a lasting death in the game is Maya's reset but even the game at this point has given lots of little hints that she's probably not entirely lost. And with the other points that the game is building up to with her, Prime is probably coming back before the ending of the game (like I wouldn't be surprised if CH4's ending is Maya Prime's return, the game still needs time to expand upon the history they shared when Maya was being tutored, and explaining why there's a ton of hints pointing at the fact Maya might not be real. Her purity routes / true ending being used to explain all of that would be a shit time I think.)
In the end, kinda yeah, for both questions. This VN can actually make you feel things other than horny or angry, and that's a serious achievement.
Like that Maya scene that never really got you. It's because you didn't notice Maya coming out of her shell before it, that entire chain is her wanting to spend time with the person she loves while being afraid of the fact that if she says she loves him he's gonna be deleted again. It already took her thousands of years to find him, even if she was prepared to do it again.
The next update is the christmas chain, and that ends with the two finally talking to each other, and even that brings up the happy moments they've shared which shows the fireworks and her eating the melon during the festival. There's even a convoluted theory that during 0.47 we get a moment of Prime saying "I love you" to Sensei. I imagine you didn't see Io's events either since I believe that's hidden behind Sana's invites and you probably gave up after the text skips stopped showing events.
Of course if we have to signal upcoming trauma in 0.47, Chika gets tricked into an orgy for 10 years or something with the Great Pareidolia Mall's denizens. Jury's still out on whether it was a physical event or just mental trauma and that's after her eating Rin out after Rin committed to moving on from Chika so she can't decide whether she's happy about it (and if you know about consent, it has to be enthusiastic)
0.46 just has a moment of emasculation for Sensei. Kirin is the one who gets traumatized if anything. Imani gets disrespected.
