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I released a new game called "Tifa's Dark Heaven"... How would you prefer this month updates to be?


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Badboll

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Can anybody tell me how to get the "sharing sub route"?
The changelog says 6 scenes there 3 scenes there update here etc, I have saves on 4 different routes and I got 1 scene.
At this point I don't know if the dev can tell you. They are making it overly complicated at this point honestly.
Should probably let people pick a route at the start and do away with all the choices.
 
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Joshy92

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When on the Sharing route, choose "drink with them" when you are hanging with Miles and Tyrone, and then the "sub route" will open
The sub sharing route seems interesting.
I don't think Ari has to worry about the mc being dissapointed in her.
I think he secretly wanted her to do stuff when she was hanging out with Mallory and the guys.
 
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Sieglinnde

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The changelog says 6 scenes there 3 scenes there update here etc, I have saves on 4 different routes and I got 1 scene.
At this point I don't know if the dev can tell you. They are making it overly complicated at this point honestly.
Should probably let people pick a route at the start and do away with all the choices.
When on the Sharing route, choose "drink with them" when you are hanging with Miles and Tyrone, and then the "sub route" will open
The changelog says 6 scenes there 3 scenes there update here etc, I have saves on 4 different routes and I got 1 scene.
At this point I don't know if the dev can tell you. They are making it overly complicated at this point honestly.
Should probably let people pick a route at the start and do away with all the choices.
I explained it some time ago, I call "scenes" to... The "Segments" in the game, when there is a change of scenario or conversation, then that is another scene... That's why below that I mention (for example) "3 sex scenes" punctuating the actual sex scenes that were added
Why is this tagged 'female protagonist' when the main character is a guy?
Because there is female and male protagonist, that's why it has those two tags... And the "multiple protagonists" tag
Excellent, Ari becomes more and more of a slut and MC becomes more and more of an idiot, this is the mother of all ridiculous games about cuckolds, the Dev is very fond of being bad by mistreating the good guys, hahahaah, this game is a hymn to assholes and sluts.
Man, I've been ignoring you for a while because I really just felt like the things you were saying didn't make sense, but each time you kept saying more and more things... It's pretty obvious with all the statements you made that you don't like the game, and that's fine but... Then why do you keep playing it? Just to continue criticizing? Because you have reached a new level, not only of attacking the game but of intruding on me personally... Why? Seriously, you don't like NTR but you complain about an NTR game? And it's not just that, any product of mine (like my other game, Living Together) you also criticize them simply because of your dislike on Let the Nightshine in... I understand that you don't like them, but why can't you give a preferably objective view of that, instead of not only complaining in every update (about a game you don't like) but also attacking me personally?
Seriously, I understand if you don't like my products or NTR games in general, or the way I tell stories, but then please... Stop playing my games man, I don't really feel like having 1 person bitching about every damn update I release or every damn game I release
 

Joshy92

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When on the Sharing route, choose "drink with them" when you are hanging with Miles and Tyrone, and then the "sub route" will open

I explained it some time ago, I call "scenes" to... The "Segments" in the game, when there is a change of scenario or conversation, then that is another scene... That's why below that I mention (for example) "3 sex scenes" punctuating the actual sex scenes that were added

Because there is female and male protagonist, that's why it has those two tags... And the "multiple protagonists" tag

Man, I've been ignoring you for a while because I really just felt like the things you were saying didn't make sense, but each time you kept saying more and more things... It's pretty obvious with all the statements you made that you don't like the game, and that's fine but... Then why do you keep playing it? Just to continue criticizing? Because you have reached a new level, not only of attacking the game but of intruding on me personally... Why? Seriously, you don't like NTR but you complain about an NTR game? And it's not just that, any product of mine (like my other game, Living Together) you also criticize them simply because of your dislike on Let the Nightshine in... I understand that you don't like them, but why can't you give a preferably objective view of that, instead of not only complaining in every update (about a game you don't like) but also attacking me personally?
He does it in threads of other games with sharing or ntr too unfortunately.
If I don't like a game I don't hang around the thread.
 

Sieglinnde

Tifa's Dark Heaven - Developer
Game Developer
Dec 2, 2019
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3 games, 3 good guys humiliated, 3 girls who are bastards, 3 BBC women
So... What? I don't see nothing wrong with that... It's the way I want to do things. Do you realize that you are complaining about something that you don't like? And you make it seem as if others don't have to like it... Everyone has their own personal consideration and I'm very happy that there are people who like my games... And I make and shape them based on what I like. Then, if you don't like my games... Then why do you spend so much time criticizing it? Someone else mentioned that you also do the same thing in other NTR threads so I'm not going to take it personally
 

DarkDaemonX

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So... What? I don't see nothing wrong with that... It's the way I want to do things. Do you realize that you are complaining about something that you don't like? And you make it seem as if others don't have to like it... Everyone has their own personal consideration and I'm very happy that there are people who like my games... And I make and shape them based on what I like. Then, if you don't like my games... Then why do you spend so much time criticizing it? Someone else mentioned that you also do the same thing in other NTR threads so I'm not going to take it personally
He could also just play the vanilla/non-ntr route, which tells me he consciously chose to play the content he apparently dislikes.

I haven't played the update yet, the version I last played was the previous one so I'll wait a couple more versions so I can binge all the new content again.
 
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Joshy92

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Now the funny thing, and it's the way the Devs make fun of us, the vanilla route lasts 6 minutes, because it doesn't make any sense, as Dev says, this is pure NTR, therefore, you are forced to choose another route if you want to play much more, but still many think that I attack NTR, everything is false, I criticize the game because the story is the same in all its games, it has ridiculous graphics, and useless choice options, a porn game must give enjoyment, not making you laugh like one of the demented comedy films.
This game has given me and lots of other people plenty of enjoyment just because it doesn't excite you doesn't mean it's boring for other people.
 
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Oliz82

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Hello.

Now the funny thing, and it's the way the Devs make fun of us, the vanilla route lasts 6 minutes, because it doesn't make any sense, as Dev says, this is pure NTR, therefore, you are forced to choose another route if you want to play much more, but still many think that I attack NTR, everything is false, I criticize the game because the story is the same in all its games, it has ridiculous graphics, and useless choice options, a porn game must give enjoyment, not making you laugh like one of the demented comedy films.
You can think whatever you want but I don't understand that last answer.
For the first part, why do you think he made fun of vanilla fan (by the way, why that appellation? There's nothing vanilla in those so called games most of the time)? Just because it's shorter doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Making a game longer just to fuck up the ending isn't a good option either. Short games can be good if done well. Quality is always better than quantity. Again, you are forced to nothing : just because some scenes exist doesn't mean you have to find/see/try them. By the way, the dev already said he didn't add the vanilla path to please but because he wanted to.
Second, why do you assume that the dev doesn't make his game for himself first. Also, it's amusing when you say that he is using the same premices when harem games aren't that much different from each others.
Third, just because you don't enjoy this game doesn't mean other people doesn't like it. If I'm reading you correctly, a game I'm not enjoying or that make me laugh is bad game or not well done. There would be many vanilla games in that category then.

And before you answer : harem = NTR for me.

Good continuation.
 

Badboll

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Aug 29, 2017
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When on the Sharing route, choose "drink with them" when you are hanging with Miles and Tyrone, and then the "sub route" will open
I have a save at that very choice and that choice you say to pick is just a continuation of v.014 sex scene and then it's version over. It's 1 scene that's was unfinished that is now complete. I have no idea where you get all the numbers in the changelog from. It seems to me you are being way to generous in what you call a scene and sex scene a camera change isn't a new sex scene, it's still the same sex scene. You just finished an unfinished sex scene and the small sequence with Tyrone after that is still part of the same event. It's also not a new scene.
So in v0.15 for the sub route you had 0.5 new sex scenes and that's it.
I know I am nitpicking you here, but when I see in a changelog 2 new sex scenes I expect 2 new sex scenes.
I went through the files and I can't find what you claim exist when I compare update .14 and update .15 I could have missed something, but it still doesn't add up. So in my eyes you are just lying.
I don't care that you are lying to me, I am annoyed sure. But you are lying to your paying customers with changelogs like that, which I don't think you are allowed to do on patreon, at least I would assume you wouldn't be allowed to.
 
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Sieglinnde

Tifa's Dark Heaven - Developer
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I have a save at that very choice and that choice you say to pick is just a continuation of v.014 sex scene and then it's version over. It's 1 scene that's was unfinished that is now complete. I have no idea where you get all the numbers in the changelog from. It seems to me you are being way to generous in what you call a scene and sex scene a camera change isn't a new sex scene, it's still the same sex scene. You just finished an unfinished sex scene and the small sequence with Tyrone after that is still part of the same event. It's also not a new scene.
So in v0.15 for the sub route you had 0.5 new sex scenes and that's it.
I know I am nitpicking you here, but when I see in a changelog 2 new sex scenes I expect 2 new sex scenes.
I went through the files and I can't find what you claim exist when I compare update .14 and update .15 I could have missed something, but it still doesn't add up. So in my eyes you are just lying.
I don't care that you are lying to me, I am annoyed sure. But you are lying to your paying customers with changelogs like that, which I don't think you are allowed to do on patreon, at least I would assume you wouldn't be allowed to.
Not only you are nitpicking, but you are also exaggerating a lot... I get if this bothers you but I already explained how I count the scenes... I'm not lying in any way, you're mentioning things of what's in the update, yes, but... Where am I lying? You just say that the content posted was not enough, but I always counted the content that there is... It is true that I am being "too generous" when counting all the content taking into account what I add, but I am not lying in any way in how much content there is, that's why I separate the "added scenes" and the added "sex scenes". Also... Why do you say things that you yourself assumed under your consideration and say it as if they were reality? Saying that I lie to my Patreons... Taking out what I already mentioned about the changelog, other than that I usually don't put changelog on Patreon, I mention in text what type of content was added and what path was updated... It's only here on where I am "forced" to add a changelog... What I mention on Patreon is enough and my supporters know how I work and that's why they support me and, again, I am not lying in any way on this... I specifically mention how much content was added
 

DarkDaemonX

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Mar 31, 2020
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Now the funny thing, and it's the way the Devs make fun of us, the vanilla route lasts 6 minutes, because it doesn't make any sense, as Dev says, this is pure NTR, therefore, you are forced to choose another route if you want to play much more, but still many think that I attack NTR, everything is false, I criticize the game because the story is the same in all its games, it has ridiculous graphics, and useless choice options, a porn game must give enjoyment, not making you laugh like one of the demented comedy films.
There wasn't much difference between the routes in Chapter 1, but from Chapter 2 onwards every path branches out to its own thing, including the vanilla path, and if the dev hasn't changed their mind the vanilla path will even get a harem option among other things, so I don't see this game as a pure NTR game at all.
 

Oliz82

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Hello.

harems are fun because of the conversations between the characters, many times they are well created stories not because of the sex itself, but because of how everything makes sense, lots of ironic jokes, etc, but at the same time I really don't love them for the harem factor , of course those are also absurd, but read carefully, I didn't talk about the NTR genre in general, your problem with me is that you think this, I find many NTRs done very well, it means, where a male MC is not a idiot, but someone who gets respect if things go too far or if he doesn't want to, instead here the Dev doesn't show inventiveness in the stories, but has and uses the same theme, something ridiculous when the women he describes talk about love towards her own MC, hahaa, Ari was born a whore like her mother and will die a whore, she doesn't do it because the boy has a fetish, she would do it anyway, but precisely because she found an idiot boy who loves her, she allows herself all this, because no one else in their right mind would marry her, the Dev perhaps would have done much better to MC Ari, and perhaps the game would have made more sense, what logic does it have, putting a boy as MC who practically has no reaction, choice, etc. he is a storyteller. It's NOT a problem of NTR, but a problem of how you pose the story, you talk about harems which are ridiculous, I ask you this question, Ari fucks a lot of men, isn't this a harem?
No, harems aren't fun but annoying. They start correctly until the MC acts as a jerk or the women jump on him immediately.
You think they make sense but, in the same way you don't like being cucked, the women aren't ok being cheated on nor sharing him. There's always a point in that type of game when some women start suffering from the situation.
No, I didn't talk about NTR but what didn't make sense with your arguments, though you seem to not like that kink.
Well, the MC is maybe an idiot but it's not different than being a jerk and mean to the girls. There should be a middle ground for MC's personality. The slut play in harem games is very annoying.
I don't know Sieglinnde other games but so what if he uses the same foundation for all his games. When a dev do "title 1" and "title 2" or "title" and "title : continuation" or "title" and other games in the same universe, I don't see many players complaining about that. Harems are so similar, even more if they include incest (the dead father joke isn't original anymore) that I'm always surprised when it's reproached for NTR games.
Everytime a harem fan talk about sluts, I'm stunned because the biggest slut in porn games is the MC of harem games since he can have more sex than any prostitute.
From my point of view no. It could be her harem if all the guys were aware of each other and ok with it (in harem games, the girls have no other choice but to accept it, which is off putting). But a real harem in this game would be with their couple at the center because there are 2 protagonists.

Good continuation.
 
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And why do you keep replying to me if you don't like my comments, given the amount of pro votes on the value of the games, I wouldn't be so satisfied if I were you, the other game has even less consideration, you still insist that I hate NTR, I have specified that you photocopied the 3 games in the same style, and that you simply base the stories on the BBC, which the masses want, it's not you who writes as you want, but you write the most comfortable stories for those who love these jokes, a huge cock, it already makes you laugh, the usual slut, and the little decelebrated boy, which doesn't make you excite, but laugh, that's why I'm critical, a porn game must excite, maybe you've got the wrong genre.
If you don't like doing things that make you enjoy living, then you don't enjoy living, so why do you continue living? Your 1.5 IQ takes are baffling.
 

Griev

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Now the funny thing, and it's the way the Devs make fun of us, the vanilla route lasts 6 minutes, because it doesn't make any sense, as Dev says, this is pure NTR, therefore, you are forced to choose another route if you want to play much more, but still many think that I attack NTR, everything is false, I criticize the game because the story is the same in all its games, it has ridiculous graphics, and useless choice options, a porn game must give enjoyment, not making you laugh like one of the demented comedy films.
Bro, you been here for months with your ChatGPT responses. "this is hilarious. This is so funny. I laugh. I see BBC I laugh. Haha funny girl is slut! All girls are sluts! Comedy! I hate all your game, but I'm here every single update to play the new release, haha! another BBC! Comedy, slut!"
This can only be a malfunctioning AI. Someone fed it episodes of Brooklyn 99 and then random porn vids and let it loose here.
You aren't FORCED to play any other route either btw. No game can force you to do shit. Just turn it off. Have some self control, then click ignore on this thread and the game will no longer bother you again... or I should say the game won't make you do a "laugh, haha. funny, comedy" all over yourself again.
 
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