TrueNemesis

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The thing behind the paywall that you so great explained in the post before this...

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I be honest with you jemleng, I know developers and I my self is developing a game so I know it takes a lot to create something. But talking about "we are as transparent as can be" kinda pisses me off...
You going to add something new into this beta, have you done so before?
A small patch to fix some bugs that you should released anyway, you said this last update too and nothing was added, feel free to correct me.

I love this game, I really do, but when you create 24 different characters and two different paths for those characters you made then 48 characters basically... You do these polls and even in the last one you said "I can already guess Hilda will be the winner once again so I left her out on purpose" and rose is the winner right now I don't understand how you think...
In every poll its clear there are 3-4 characters that you should develop more then others but having 48 characters got you into this mess and a mess it is....

And you keep saying this arbitrary numbers that in this world do not mean ANYTHING adding 1350+ images don't really do much when most images are like this (cherry picking obvs but points stand):
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I'm no expert on how this Koikatsu work to setup scenes but most animations already exists in the program and I think most poses exists too (plz correct me if am wrong)

But saying:
- 39 new events.
- 1350+ new images.
- 250+ new animations.

Don't mean that much when most images are the same with some variation and a events can literally be 5 images and a animation, we don't know what you call a event. If anything separate "event" and "sex scene" to know what you talking about.

Most people want sex scenes :cool:

And like I said the last post, you "wasted" about 100 images on some "dream" subscribestar extra scene that could have been in the game with clever use that adds something to the story instead.
Can I pay you 100 bucks to not do a dream and add some stuff to the characters most people want to see instead, how do this work?
Only thing you say is "send in your request!?"....

And about leaks and support dropping, people much bigger then you give away games for free all the time and have supports. I always remember Gabe Newells (Steams CEO) quote about piracy: “One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue,”

I love this work, I love you for creating this and I only write this because I care!
But seeing as you know what people want (polls) and this thread I wonder how this will develop, will it end like a lot of other games has on this site.

Abandoned because you lost your spark?
Like I said to a dear friend that is a developer for a much bigger game then this: "I cry for your awesome work because I see so much potential that is hindered by some small details that no one cares about"

I'm probably going to continue to support you but I do cry for your awesome work and what it could become.

Sorry for the wall of text...

Peace out!
 
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CutieLvr

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I had no idea everyone would be so scared of a couple of tags.
It's a bit like that but nothing crazy. Try the game and let me know;)

You can play this like any other normal adult visual novel and there's more to it than just sex.



Sorry but that's something that I rather avoid because it's not my thing and I think it's also forbidden on certain platforms.

I could use some feedback on my game though.

Jamleng, I love your game, I think it is awesome. You get as nasty with all the fetishes you want. Maybe, you can have a page where the player can opt out of the fetishes they don't want to see. How about some cross-dressing, and femboy fetishes. How about letting the MC swing both ways, hummmm? You build your toy the way you want, just invite me in to play.
 

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Regarding Koikatsu STILL IMAGE renders vs ANIMATIONS...

The sequence of nearly identical images utilizes the dissolve fade transition to make it look like the character's expression and the head is moving slightly.

We try to keep it to 1 image for every 2 lines of dialogue, instead of a still image for 10-20 lines of text. That way it's not boring and stagnant.

Animations are reserved for longer monologues and action events. Some animations are being made as we replace some of the still images with "blinking, breathing" animation loops.

Without delving into the use of the new "TIMELINE" animation mod, which requires much more time to produce longer animation sequences, we simply have chosen to use multiple images in a slideshow every line or every other line to keep it from looking boring or stagnant.

Yes, there are some events where the camera angle changes perhaps once or twice in total. But animating characters changing facial expressions mid-animation creates glitchy movements that look completely unnatural.

There are some very popular games on this site and others that use 1 image for 20-30 lines regularly. Sometimes, it's even just an image of an empty room, the ceiling, or a blank wall. We're at least trying to keep a sort of flow of movement through short loops and still images.
Wow, you devs speak in a totally different language, programese let's say. I kinda get the gist, this is why I am in awe of you devs.
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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If the demand is high enough and I get lots of requests for a particular scene or fetish I don't mind looking into it, but so far this is a first.
I personally think a drug induced and or forced sissification storyline would be cool, and would fit the whole theme of depravity pretty well. Maybe make some third rate villain character to feminize and bully for a few events. Could either keep them as a pet or sell them off to the company at the end of the line. Maybe even give them to the labs for a bit at the end of it so the good doctors can give us back a trans cat girl.
 

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Downplaying the insane amounts of work we put in is just insulting to say the very least.
I'm not going to put a lot of time into this nor correct anything as your post is so full of false statements, and inaccuracies, that it's guaranteed the most ignorant post I've had the displeasure of reading during the development of this game. It's one for the hall of fame.

Maybe you should actually dive a little bit deeper into what it takes to create games because any dev with actual experience would never write that stuff. It's not even feedback, I'm not even sure what your goal is with that post, especially since the plans have been laid out openly for a long time now.

I absolutely don't get it, all of that because a smaller single update didn't meet your expectations on the amount of sex scenes? Seriously, what do you expect to achieve with that post? I'm truly dumbfounded because if you actually read the weekly SS posts you would be 100% informed and wouldn't write that stuff unless we're living in completely different realities.


Thank you very much! I'm pretty open about a lot of stuff and this could be cool, but the workload as of now is already more than enough. I think it's too much of a niche which would probably work better as a standalone game. Another issue is that I know absolutely nothing about the femboys and the gay scene which makes for difficult writing. I never say never though. If the demand is high enough and I get lots of requests for a particular scene or fetish I don't mind looking into it, but so far this is a first.
I appreciate your response, just keeping my fingers crossed. Thank you.
 
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I must say that I'm consent with variety of girls. It's not too much, and most definitely I would add some few more, at least to the journal. And I don't think that shortening our harem/toys to 3-4 girls would be good for this kind of VN, not for this for sure. I'm really enjoying watching events, scenes, stuff with side characters as much as with so called "main girls", sometimes even more than with them. So yeah, more girls=more fun.

I would tottally keep supporting this vn with my wallet if not keep going problems with keeping it full. But you have still my emotional support, even if it can't feed you :LOL:

Jamleng Xo Mo Are you planing for some action with Ramorey eventually? I would really want to see her on my dick.
And have you thinkin about publishing some past events, like Christmas etc, as standalone spin offs? That would be great since you are removing them in next update after that that event. Like with Christmas I could get it since I was too late
 

TrueNemesis

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Downplaying the insane amounts of work we put in is just insulting to say the very least.
I'm not going to put a lot of time into this nor correct anything as your post is so full of false statements, and inaccuracies, that it's guaranteed the most ignorant post I've had the displeasure of reading during the development of this game. It's one for the hall of fame.

Maybe you should actually dive a little bit deeper into what it takes to create games because any dev with actual experience would never write that stuff. It's not even feedback, I'm not even sure what your goal is with that post, especially since the plans have been laid out openly for a long time now.

I absolutely don't get it, all of that because a smaller single update didn't meet your expectations on the amount of sex scenes? Seriously, what do you expect to achieve with that post? I'm truly dumbfounded because if you actually read the weekly SS posts you would be 100% informed and wouldn't write that stuff unless we're living in completely different realities.
Told my self to be not respond but I'm had a boring day so why not...

Point by point:
Did I downplay the amount of work, or did I complain that your "insane amounts of work" is focused on the wrong things?

I think I know plenty of how to create games and what constitutes a good game, kinda hard for you to judge me?
It was "feedback/an answer" on what you wrote before my post and what you been writing on your subscribestar.

Did I say that I did not like this update, did you read actually what I wrote?
Did I say anything about the amount of sex scenes IN THIS update, I was talking about "events" VS "sex scenes".
Most people wants sex scenes, like what do you think would happened if you did 40 events but 1 sex scene, would people be happy with an update like that?
My issue was/is that you keep focusing on the wrong things that even your subscribers want you to focus on, look on the polls and posts here. Most people want events with the main girls then some, keyword: SOME other girls, but not all 48 different ones (24 times 2 paths)...

And Xo Mo Wrote it well: "we try to keep it to 1 image for every 2 lines of dialogue, instead of a still image for 10-20 lines of text. That way it's not boring and stagnant."
This is great, as it should be!

BUT that makes the amount images kinda irrelevant for the average player, what most players are looking for are the sex scenes.

And just so we are clear, I want a balance with both character/story development and sex scenes.

And do you think all your subscribers read your posts?
You get like 4-5 likes and like 3 comments on most posts, people react with a subscribe and by playing your game not the posts write.

Please point out the "false statements" as I don't seem to see where they are.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood something I wrote in my past post but like I said I write it because I really do like your game and see potential, you should be so much bigger then you are but like a lot of other creators here you making some basic mistakes to grow bigger.

And its fine, my first game was 100% for self, I don't care what people said about it.

But when you write "We are two very hard-working devs and we barely have enough money to make a living although it's going better with every new update." I reacted and my post might have come off as somewhat aggressive and that was not my intention.

Me and some other developers are trying to create a platform (think steam but for porn) so people like us can come together and create great stuff and learn from each other, to bad to say it still a few years away I'm sad to say.

Its hard for me to express myself and ideas in these kinds of posts, left you a DM before but understand if you wont talk to me, wont bother you again.

Wish you all the luck in the world and can't wait to see how this game develops.

Kind regards, A fan
 

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I'm stuck. Day 74, and I haven't been able to trigger anything for a while, and each character's quest task is "do other stuff." And the two or three that aren't "do other stuff" aren't triggering. Did I get soft-locked out of progression somehow?

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edit 1: murphy's law. Right after I posted this, an Emily event triggered, and the FIB event. :rolleyes:

edit 2: still stuck anyways. Lets see if murphy's law strikes again :cautious:
But pretty much every girl is at "wait for the boss" except Emily/Sophia loop, Lilly, Nina, Nani, Ramoray, Stella, Luna, Sarah/Elsa loop. I understand the instructions point to "try doing other stories," but when ALL the task hints say exactly that, it's absolutely zero help at all. And the ones that don't, they simply aren't triggering. I am visiting all the different locations and characters at each time of the day with no progression. I feel like I'm supposed to have unlocked the store, bar, and lab by now, but I can't figure out how to do it.
I don't know how many other people are having this much trouble, a few people have posted being stuck - with the only help being "follow the instructions that were not helping you to begin with." If this is a frequent issue, it might be worth considering replacing the current vague instructions with more precise explanations, even if it means including spoilers.
 
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Gibberish666

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Mia may be in Uni Bathroom
Stacy should be in Swan Room
Bar is accessible with Emily after advancing Lilly and Sophia
FIB event triggers in either Principal Office or Church
Lab unlocks with 3 steps: 1. Chloe is angry at Uni Pool, 2. Ramoray asks for something in the Mansion Lobby, 3. Chloe is less angry and agrees to talk with you at Uni Pool.

Boss arrives after Day 68 - sleep in MC bed/Rose bed. But all tasks should say WAIT FOR THE BOSS before it can trigger.
I appreciate the assist. As I mentioned in my edit 2, I figured out Mia, Stacy, and the FIB.
I've also done steps 1 and 2 for the lab, but for some reason I can't trigger 3, and Chloe is just staying mad.
 

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I appreciate the assist. As I mentioned in my edit 2, I figured out Mia, Stacy, and the FIB.
I've also done steps 1 and 2 for the lab, but for some reason I can't trigger 3, and Chloe is just staying mad.
In 0.12 the journal got changed a bit so players hopefully don't get stuck. With like 400 events it's a bit complicated to get it 100% right but it will be eventually since I monitor that stuff closely, especially when multiple players get stuck at certain points.

Basically what you have to do is complete all other quests up to day 68 after which part two of the game unlocks.
Chloe won't be mad anymore when you've progressed Sarah for a bit. If you're stuck, feel free to drop your save file either here, pm or on in Discord and we'll check out what's missing.
 

Gibberish666

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In 0.12 the journal got changed a bit so players hopefully don't get stuck. With like 400 events it's a bit complicated to get it 100% right but it will be eventually since I monitor that stuff closely, especially when multiple players get stuck at certain points.

Basically what you have to do is complete all other quests up to day 68 after which part two of the game unlocks.
Chloe won't be mad anymore when you've progressed Sarah for a bit. If you're stuck, feel free to drop your save file either here, pm or on in Discord and we'll check out what's missing.
I think figured out what happened by loading an older save. I actually was soft-locked.
I somehow missed a number of events with Emily during Sophia's route that would have opened up the bar and shop. Unfortunately, I cannot say for certain how to replicate it, but I think I basically didn't do any of Emily's stuff by the time of Sophia's day 65.
 
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Jamleng

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I heard there is some new Rose NTR scene, is it on dark patch only? Can't find it...
Only on the Dark path, it's a scene that becomes available after day 105 and only shows up in the journal if you've done her previous ntr event.

Still waiting for the mods/uploaders to update the thread and I'm guessing that will happen soon so just a random disclaimer for any newcomer: NTR is easily avoidable/non-existent depending on the choices you make.
 

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Damn, my dp save is so outdated, guess I will have to work on it then :p, not a huge fan of dp but sill would like to check the scene...
Also was pretty sure someone mentioned new watersports content but also didn't find anything, somehow can't find the post with it, am I going crazy? :D
 

Jamleng

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Damn, my dp save is so outdated, guess I will have to work on it then :p, not a huge fan of dp but sill would like to check the scene...
Also was pretty sure someone mentioned new watersports content but also didn't find anything, somehow can't find the post with it, am I going crazy? :D
No new watersports stuff in this update but a bunch of surprises here and there. It's a bit of a "smaller" sized update that took less time than the usual 3 to 4 months but a very important one IMO. It's mostly focused on improving existing content and filling up the world a bit while adding a bunch of newer/smaller events. Major story shifts/events will be happening in the next major update that we're currently working on.
 
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