nana3atman

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Nov 11, 2021
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I've mixed feelings about this v11a, in my mind i can justify it being a good update but i still felt disappointed.
2 of the 3 H scenes feel like more of the same with different dialogue, and the last one could be said its both a step up and slowing down (there's Lisa nudity for the first time but fondling < cunnilingus, i mean)

I guess that my disappointment comes from the rate of progress to speed of updates, maybe the best scenario is to just forget about this game and at the end of the year download v15 for at least a better experience.

But hey, i'm not paying the price of a full excelent game every month for it.
 

idkmanerally

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May 2, 2023
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yea last 2 updates i said, "lets let dev cook but something needs to happen soon" and then every time an update drops the exact same shit happens again

sucks.

at the end of the day this is an extremely average koikatsu game with some tedious open-world bullshit on top... but the game was still worth playing, because the dev knew how to raise the stakes and tension with each update. but now that's stopped as we've entered the 3rd or 4th month of plateau'd action.

NTS/NTR games live and die by their pacing, and this game is fucking up the pacing bad
 

kinglionheart

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yea last 2 updates i said, "lets let dev cook but something needs to happen soon" and then every time an update drops the exact same shit happens again

sucks.

at the end of the day this is an extremely average koikatsu game with some tedious open-world bullshit on top... but the game was still worth playing, because the dev knew how to raise the stakes and tension with each update. but now that's stopped as we've entered the 3rd or 4th month of plateau'd action.

NTS/NTR games live and die by their pacing, and this game is fucking up the pacing bad
Also as I understand it soon Lisa won't be the main focus of updates. Lisa will still get some development but the main focus will be on the Guild girls. Then later Lisa will become the main focus again. So the pacing will become even slower soon.
 

Animefan_09

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Sep 13, 2017
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Also as I understand it soon Lisa won't be the main focus of updates. Lisa will still get some development but the main focus will be on the Guild girls. Then later Lisa will become the main focus again. So the pacing will become even slower soon.
Can't say much about that myself since before this update i played like version 0.5 or even lower, seens good to me but i got to play it as a big chunk, i also don't mind the shift to guild girls since from what i saw it will be different, like the white haired girl and mom could be more dificult or similar in pacing to Lisia, but the fox girls triplets seen to me are being set up to fall faster with a reasonable excuse (beast traits).

The isekai mom is the one i am on the fence, even the author mentioned Patreon makes it difficult and he may have to make 2 different version because of it, or just say fuck it and prepare to shift fully to subscribestar xD

Personally i plan to check the changelog of the updates and once the guild content starts wait for 5 versions again before playing, although i may need to play a bit of each one to make sure the saves work so i am not forced to replay half the game xD
 
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ObliviousNTR

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Also as I understand it soon Lisa won't be the main focus of updates. Lisa will still get some development but the main focus will be on the Guild girls. Then later Lisa will become the main focus again. So the pacing will become even slower soon.
By the sounds of it, you want the game to live and die by Lisa, that's never been the plan. She and Yuto are simply the starting point, they will be completely skippable at some point.

yea last 2 updates i said, "lets let dev cook but something needs to happen soon" and then every time an update drops the exact same shit happens again

sucks.

at the end of the day this is an extremely average koikatsu game with some tedious open-world bullshit on top... but the game was still worth playing, because the dev knew how to raise the stakes and tension with each update. but now that's stopped as we've entered the 3rd or 4th month of plateau'd action.

NTS/NTR games live and die by their pacing, and this game is fucking up the pacing bad
I'm sorry that you feel that way... Or I guess not really since I don't agree, please look at my posts about scheduling/update info instead of waiting completely blind and with assumptions. Or, just don't play and get invested if you think the game is extremely average :WeSmart:


Imma switch off f95 notis for the next 6 months, they make focusing harder than it should be and there's hardly ever anything to actually answer. Apologies in advance for ignoring any genuine questions on here, try reaching out to me on my discord.
 

kinglionheart

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By the sounds of it, you want the game to live and die by Lisa, that's never been the plan. She and Yuto are simply the starting point, they will be completely skippable at some point.
I only discovered your game a couple of updates ago. Right before the Guild was introduced in fact. I got interested because the premise of the slow corruption of a single fantasy heroine, that is where the best NTR stories are IMO. I stayed because of the steady progression of her affection towards the NTR bull and the literal visualization of her ever changing affection of the cuck and bull.

I didn't know what your plans were. The game description didn't mention any other couples. If you make stories for other characters and make the original couple optional then it is your choice. I have seen many stories here lose interest because the creator can't handle so many storylines at the same time. I hope it does not happen to your game and the quality won't drop with the increased characters to focus on.

Also my condolences on the stress people here are causing you. It is great when developers can involved here to answer questions but most of the them do stop responding for their mental health.
 
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winterwolf200

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By the sounds of it, you want the game to live and die by Lisa, that's never been the plan. She and Yuto are simply the starting point, they will be completely skippable at some point.

" The Hero Yuto, alongside his childhood friend Lisa and the Hero party, defeat the Demon King and bring peace back to their world. Their life seems set after Yuto proposes to Lisa, to which she happily accepts. However, they delay their wedding until the kingdom is rebuilt as Yuto decides to help the people with re-construction efforts, leaving Lisa alone at home with a guest for most of the day, every day... "
 

Moniker13

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By the sounds of it, you want the game to live and die by Lisa, that's never been the plan. She and Yuto are simply the starting point, they will be completely skippable at some point.
Don't delude yourself. You know what people want(progress with Lisa) and you're intentionally delaying it with side characters to milk money off ye olde patreon business model. This is the literary equivalent of padding word count by going off on side stories with characters nobody cares about.
 
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ObliviousNTR

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Don't delude yourself. You know what people want(progress with Lisa) and you're intentionally delaying it with side characters to milk money off ye olde patreon business model. This is the literary equivalent of padding word count by going off on side stories with characters nobody cares about.
Why is your first option to just outright hate without doing even like 30 seconds of research? I've tried reminding everyone numerous times on posts saying that I won't change to another heroine till Lisa & Kord are at a good point to where people won't get blue balled. And for anyone thinking this whole more heroines thing is new, my first post on Patreon (which dates back to before I even posted the prologue) literally shows and explains that there will be multiple heroines. I had to make the post only for paid members though because of Patreon suspending me but if anyone wants to leak that, feel free.

Though I'm probably talking to a brick wall, can someone for the love of god tell me how to temporarily turn off email notifications on here? I've tried turning off all email notification settings on preferences and it ain't working...
 

Racoon_4

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Would you consider adding small changes to the fox girl sisters? They are looking 99% the same.
I don't want you to make any time consuming major changes. More like changing their hairstyles or giving them different clothing, for example.
 

sbeve_bupkis

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Jan 30, 2024
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I provide feedback because I feel it might result in a better game. Even if you read my feedback, disagree and discard it, you considered what I was saying, and that's good enough for me. It's not my creative project, it's the devs.

I don't want to see any side characters whatsoever, and the stuff I do want to see isn't really implemented. There's shops (just story checkpoints). There's clothing (can't buy any options besides the story checkpoint). There's a stub-end choice to wear different outfits around the house (except it doesn't work with any interactions so what's the point). There's options to flaunt Kord's relationship in front of Yuto around the house (doesn't do anything). The only draw, the only reason I am interested in this game at all, is the progression of the relationship between Kord and Lisa. I want to see upgrades/cosmetic changes to Lisa. I want to customize her appearance and her outfits and so on, those scenes of watching TV or making dinner are prime opportunities to showcase her altered appearance to attract Kord.

Everything else is just a waste of time to prolong a "will-they/won't-they" state-of-tension with no penetration for as long as possible. The internal rationalization for why she is willing to cheat with Kord is starting to become really strained, because we've had like... 100s and 100s of lines of dialogue from her going "fu-fu it's not like this is cheating <3" while she is literally swallowing Kord's loads. It's over-wrought, and it's making her come across as stupid or brain-damaged, which is not where she started, and doesn't feel earned if this is a bimboification story.

The game starts with her being jealous of Lily. The natural progression for that would be her trying to get attention from Kord and competing with Lily. That's what women do, they try to attract the attention of someone. Her being jealous of Kord paying attention to Lily, and then wearing more revealing clothing, wanting to work out and be noticed- that's all Believable Corruption Progression. Her swallowing cum and getting eaten out for HOURS at a time (at work no less...) is not really believable. What's the point of her workplace if she can just close the door to have marathon sex for hours with no interruptions? It's just a speed bump to stall escalating the sex acts around the house (the part of the game that everyone likes).

If there are more than 0 people subbed paying you money each month, you'd be a fool to develop the game efficiently and directly towards the conclusion. There is a perverse incentive, and it's why I dislike patreon-style development.

But, all of that said, who cares what I think, posting on the pirate website. I'm sure you have a sprawling 10 year plan for this game, good luck. I've said my piece
 

smithsmithsmith

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Why is your first option to just outright hate without doing even like 30 seconds of research? I've tried reminding everyone numerous times on posts saying that I won't change to another heroine till Lisa & Kord are at a good point to where people won't get blue balled. And for anyone thinking this whole more heroines thing is new, my first post on Patreon (which dates back to before I even posted the prologue) literally shows and explains that there will be multiple heroines. I had to make the post only for paid members though because of Patreon suspending me but if anyone wants to leak that, feel free.
Not sure if pointing to a paywall locked post is the best defense, your patreon banner and basically every public teaser are all Lisa + w/e hero cuck is called or Lisa + Kord. It's been over a year and we're at maybe two hours of content and half a blowjob as far as the main corruption arc goes, hearing that you're planning to detour into fleshing out half a dozen side characters doesn't inspire much confidence. I wish you the best, but honestly I'm gonna stick this in a folder marked 'check December 2030' because that's the kinda timescale I think we're looking at with your current plan.
 

Animefan_09

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Sep 13, 2017
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Though I'm probably talking to a brick wall, can someone for the love of god tell me how to temporarily turn off email notifications on here? I've tried turning off all email notification settings on preferences and it ain't working...
I feel you, i think it SHOULD be in preferences, although i hope when you switch it out it doesn't make permanent, these settings tend to bug out and stop all notifications, or maybe FF.NET has me prejudiced.

I also know the image you mentioned, i even asked for it on the discord since i couldn't find it again. Have all the heroines been presented? I feel like maybe there is just 1 or 2 left.

I am also hoping for Lisa's mom to appear, even if just an extra for her route, NTR oyakodon muahahahaha, and maybe Lisa x Kord x Lily, where Lisa dominates Lily to stablish her superiority to her while still being sub towards Kord.
 

kinglionheart

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I feel you, i think it SHOULD be in preferences, although i hope when you switch it out it doesn't make permanent, these settings tend to bug out and stop all notifications, or maybe FF.NET has me prejudiced.

I also know the image you mentioned, i even asked for it on the discord since i couldn't find it again. Have all the heroines been presented? I feel like maybe there is just 1 or 2 left.

I am also hoping for Lisa's mom to appear, even if just an extra for her route, NTR oyakodon muahahahaha, and maybe Lisa x Kord x Lily, where Lisa dominates Lily to stablish her superiority to her while still being sub towards Kord.
I think the backlash for adding in other heroines broke the dev. LOL
 

ahoboman

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ObliviousNTR Don't listen to the hate. I had to clear my mind today after a long day of work. I was starting to have doubt too after reading all this hate you are receiving, if I want to continue in this journey of making my own NSFW game. I set off because I feel like many DEV's were not going in the direction I like. I came back to f95zone for minute because this update spark my interest and there is a war zone going on in the comments. That was a mistake. I should stay AWAY. I realize you can't please them all. Do you Obli. And I will continue to work on my own project. Kudos! Ima turn f95zone notification off.
 

iraking

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Mar 18, 2019
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Damn guys, the game has to start slowly, you can't just put the two of them fucking because then it loses its fun quickly, even though the last update didn't advance the story much, it was still good.
 

Xill

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Jan 10, 2018
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By the sounds of it, you want the game to live and die by Lisa, that's never been the plan. She and Yuto are simply the starting point, they will be completely skippable at some point.
What do you mean skippable? As in, you play as Lisa but you will be able to make choices where Kord (and the goblin/fat guy or w/e from the start) can just fuck everyone else except Lisa?

I assumed Lisa was always gonna be the protagonist, and at the start of the game you choose the route which are Kord, the goblin and whoever the third silhouette is.
 
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