Because sometimes he pause or suspend the monthly patreon payment whenever he is not reaching the deadline. That is why many are still staying, they don't need to manually cancel it.
Ren'Py Life After Victory [v0.12] [ObliviousNTR]
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I am saying is its crazy that people out here paying 50$ for unfinished game xD
I went to look at other content creators. They all have subscription options for $20 max. Obli is extremely abusive. $50 is not normal.
Yea the content is good but expects to be compensated too much. Daily lives just had an update, very popular game...cheapest tier unlocks it and it goes public after a week lol....SAO NTR, cheapest tier gets it as well....Both games leaked within hour of release....devs don't even care....just happy people are enjoying their work xD
Brother we get it, you LOVE sao ntr lmao. tbh a 50$ price tag subscription for an unfinished game that get updated in every 2 or 3 months or so is kinda ass buuut bunch of people still bought it soo whatever work for the dev i guess
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How are so many people incapable of understanding basic logic? You're saying it here in this paragraph, "popular", do you think that if this game had only max $10-$5 updates and it got leaked within the first few hours/days every time that it would still be around now? This game is no longer only a few months into development, if the dev is only making like 400-800 per update, the game would've been gone a long time ago, or at the very least, forget updates every 3 months, you'd be lucky getting one smaller update every 6-12 months.
And btw, "devs don't even care....just happy people are enjoying their work", don't be so naive, nobody just spends their days making something and then still get happy when it makes them no cash, they either make enough from the game as it is to not have to care about losses from leaks (which is highly likely considering their size) or never needed money to begin with.
I also saw one guy compare this first week price to one-time payments for popular steam games, games that have entire teams and a marketing budget capable of securing them more money upon release than a game like this could ever make full stop.
Just be happy that people with the money are nice enough to support the dev. Some of you are legit trying to imply that you'd be dumb for paying that amount of money yet also begging those same people to do you a favor, then to top it off you're going to question the dev's morals on pricing on a game that he releases free regardless...
Istg this game's community gotta rank top 10 worst on the site, and all cos people either too horny to wait regardless of the dev's activeness or because all they do is complain about pricing (for that very same reason). And all that leads them to just put the game down whilst constantly mentioning other games. All the whilst, doing absolutely 0 as a fan (and no, I don't mean just pay) to help the game actually get big enough to not need to have a long and expensive release schedule designed around preventing leaks.
It is objectively a terrible decision to give $50 monthly for a game that might never even be completed. Asking people with more money than sense to share the results of their bad decisions here doesn't make those decisions any better.
That being said for me personally there is zero rush for this update to leak or anything since the direction the game is going to take after 0.12 is not really worth even keeping track of.
I agree, Logically and REALISTICALLY having a game with a lower sub costs encourages people to support more actually (crazy thought right) because people who can't afford to spend a lot (hey on a pirate site) can actually contribute 1-5$ toward a project they like and get rewarded. Imagine doing even a 25$ sub every update (only counting updates) and you end up donating 2k $ total for a game not even produced by a company. The sense of entitlement is strong, crazy how we went from people doing fun projects years ago where they started out of the fun of it, didn't expect much in return. May or may not gotten lucky and blown up, but they just wanted to finish their passion project. To I am a brand new dev (yes you are putting in blood and sweat in your project) but you expect to be rewarded just as much as a big time dev. Sorry in the world of business you don't automatically equate your time to the same value as big time players.
Also to add I have an active sub to Obliv...its just no where near 50$ so as a supporter...I am entitled to an opinion
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Finally someone who can think. I've never liked to discuss this kinds of topics cause it's a loss loss situation, unless you want to pass the time and possibly rage bait (lmao), I don't see how this arguments that never goes anywhere should be taken seriously. If you don't want to pay, don't. There's a leaker, there's a hero, if not then just move on. Simple as that and like you said, its not worth it anyway.
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Interestingly having a high money tier makes leaks less likely. SAO is leaked right away probably because it is only $5 so there are a lot of people who bought it and some of them are willing to give out that $5 product for free. But if the dev makes something for $20+ then there are a lot less people buying that product and almost no one willing to give that product out for free.
Don't know if the dev though of this when he made the tiers but it is effective. Not many threads I seen is so hard for leaks as this one. Then now he goes the extra step with this update and adds email verification so even if we get the leaked game we can't play it without hacks, probably.
So I bet if the dev made the update available on day 1 for lower tiers he would have more supporters but that update would get leaked quickly. He does not want that so he really put in a lot of effort to prevent leaks. Well I am not willing to pay for the update so I will wait quietly for the heroes.
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You got Cute Percentage to thanks for that, I'm pretty sure he invested a lot of time, early on, to have the kind of platform he has right now, though I kinda respect it. The grind I mean.
If you don't know it's the dev of House of Shinobi.
I think its really just RNG on if a game is leaked quickly or not. I have seen some games that have a good amount of subscribers but the game doesn't get leaked right away.
The extra step for this one deff makes it less likely to get leaked for sure. I don't think adding it will increase their subs much though. Just people who pirate it will just wait for a leak still or the public version.
Additionally I think we can also agree that these "terrible" pirating sites are probably the BIGGEST advertisement for these games. If I wasn't ever on these pirate sites, a lot of these games I wouldn't even know of. Kinda funny how some devs want to attack the very source that helped them grow
For sure, I don't hate the content, the dev is cooking up good stuff. Just not a fan of the business model xD
My computer crashed, so I no longer have my last backups. Does anyone have anything for me? My last backup was when Lisa sucks Kord on the couch.
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I support people on Patreon because they deserve a good salary for doing their job to make a good game. I don't do it to get the game earlier, nor do I consider my payments to be "buying" the game.
Patreon payments are an investment in a good developer in the hopes that they have the funds to devote more of their time to creating games, rather than needing to do other things to pay the bills. I've spent well over $1,000 on Patreon developers over the years; if I thought of that as how much I spent "buying" the games themselves, it'd be a terrible deal, but if I think of it in the much more accurate way of "I paid developers I liked for their time working to develop great games" then yeah, it's money well spent.
Honestly, $1,000 isn't very much at all considering how that's only about a month's rent in most places these days. I just hope that, along with their other supporters, I've been able to make it a bit easier for the developers I've supported to pay the bills. That's the point of it all in the end.
Patreon payments are an investment in a good developer in the hopes that they have the funds to devote more of their time to creating games, rather than needing to do other things to pay the bills. I've spent well over $1,000 on Patreon developers over the years; if I thought of that as how much I spent "buying" the games themselves, it'd be a terrible deal, but if I think of it in the much more accurate way of "I paid developers I liked for their time working to develop great games" then yeah, it's money well spent.
Honestly, $1,000 isn't very much at all considering how that's only about a month's rent in most places these days. I just hope that, along with their other supporters, I've been able to make it a bit easier for the developers I've supported to pay the bills. That's the point of it all in the end.
No one is saying there's anything wrong with supporting devs, just not many fans want their tier to be 50$ xD if the dev wants to charge 50$ for the game I personally do not see anything wrong with that....if it was a fully finished game. There are a lot of successful devs who work 40+ hours a week and still come home and work on their game. To be a dev and be in a situation where you make enough to support yourself purely off your game is not the norm lol...if you are blessed to be in that situation awesome, but don't EXPECT to be in that situation.
At the end of the day, its the devs projetc and they reserve the right to charge what ever for it and I respect that even if some may assume I don't. Its like OF girls who work super hard on their content and it may be really good....but they are upset that they can't charge the same monthly fee as a more sucessful girl...its not to be expected honey sorry...if it happens though it happens
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The game isn't $50, it's free. Again, the $50 tier isn't a request to pay $50 for the game, it's an option to give the developer $50 a month as part of their salary while they're developing the game. The rewards you get for choosing to give $50 a month should be nearly irrelevant; you'll get the game in time either way, so your money should only be spent for the sake of funding the developer, not to "buy" the game. If you want to give less than $50, there are options for that, if you want to give more, you can do so as well. Even those who are paying nothing at all will get the game. The money is for supporting the developer, not for purchasing the game. The game is free.
My point went over your head and thats fine xD Yes the game goes public eventually. No one is entitled to an early leak xD
How do you say you understand and then immediately contradict yourself... Also I'm genuinely confused now at the point you're trying to make, if you're saying the dev shouldn't have a $50 tier because it's a waste of time and no one buys it, then that's just wrong, you can literally look at a site like graphtreon and see a clear rise in numbers (I'd argue a substantional amount for that price tag, especially compared to many other games at even lesser prices)
And one more thing, which I'm sure will go completely ignored as per usual (unless me saying this makes you feel like you gotta say something), if a game gets released free, then any paid early release is essentially for support and for those that cba waiting. And legit, what's so bad about just saying you're mad that leaks can't happen sooner because of the price, that is the actual frustration no?