Ren'Py Life's Payback [v1.5] [Vinkawa]

[Abbaboye]

All good man, it's okay to ask for precisions before stepping in Life's Payback.

MC is basically treating almost everyone like shit at the moment, I doubt any of the LIs are considering an exclusive relationship with him.
Most of them have oral and sex scenes because they have to.
A few of them might be growing a little romance vibe, but that's not developed enough to bring the Cheating/NTR stuff on the table because some cat girl fucked one of them in a skippable (soon avoidable) scene.
The best thing would be to try the game and see if it fits your kinks, and if it does not, well, it happens.

Sadly it can swing both ways sometimes I guess, you never know when a developer is just gonna insert futa/ntr and cheating. Always a slippery slope to me personally, but it's always someone's choice/taste at the end of the day.

Maybe the swinging tag like TLS makes more sense. Avoidable is a plus but in my experience, it just slips towards the bad tags being unavoidable.

 

[Abbaboye]

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in short cheating is not NTR (even when some people say it is)

I mean, from the way it was said by someone else, this thing just happens out of the blue to someone in a harem from outside. Sounded pretty NTR to me.

 

[Vinkawa]

Sadly it can swing both ways sometimes I guess, you never know when a developer is just gonna insert futa/ntr and cheating. Always a slippery slope to me personally, but it's always someone's choice/taste at the end of the day.

Maybe the swinging tag like TLS makes more sense. Avoidable is a plus but in my experience, it just slips towards the bad tags being unavoidable.

There are 60 animations and that ntr stuff, which is by definition not ntr, only refers to 1. And it's the last scene.
That means you have 59 animations to discover with an exclusive sex deal with everyone until you reach the last scene and click on "Skip".
Don't think too much, just download the game and play it.

Personally I got my dose of this topic for today, I won't elaborate more, you make the decision now.

 

[Abbaboye]

There are 60 animations and that ntr stuff, which is by definition not ntr, only refers to 1. And it's the last scene.
That means you have 59 animations to discover with an exclusive sex deal with everyone until you reach the last scene and click on "Skip".
Don't think too much, just downlaod the game and play it.

I'm definitely not going to play, maybe till all the tags are better defined. I just wanted clarification on that NTR tag as it came and went.

GL with the game.

 

[Burstlimit]

I mean, from the way it was said by someone else, this thing just happens out of the blue to someone in a harem from outside. Sounded pretty NTR to me.

One scene can never be NTR. Read my explanation. People in the community call everything sexual that is not with the Mc NTR.
both person that have sex are part of the Harem (Swinging)

 

[Vinkawa]

Well, F95 never ceases to amaze me.
Why do I even bother explaining things for the same outcome.


Hopefully the next wave of users tomorrow will be more enjoyable.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Nah we don't need to go that far, but just need to make the difference between a loyal relationship with obligations between two individuals, and a harem.

I feel like in the eyes of most people, a harem is a loyal relationship with obligations, at least from the haremees to the haremer. Personally I don't think this addition will have any issues for me based off of the prior ones, but definitionally it does feel like you're work from a different base than most folks.

 

[Abbaboye]

Well, F95 never ceases to amaze me.
Why do I even bother explaining things for the same outcome.

I see the game on my watchlist, gets deleted for a tag I personally dislike. I just wanted clarification. There's no real need to get upset over anything. From my knowledge, it only really gets added when that stuff is really in.

 

[Abbaboye]

One scene can never be NTR. Read my explanation. People in the community call everything sexual that is not with the Mc NTR.
both person that have sex are part of the Harem (Swinging)

I agree with the sense that it's not really NTR for a harem to be some mega sex orgy with the people in it, just sounds like the swinging tag to me. Not something I like but I'm not gonna cry over it.

 

[Vinkawa]

I feel like in the eyes of most people, a harem is a loyal relationship with obligations, at least from the haremees to the haremer. Personally I don't think this addition will have any issues for me based off of the prior ones, but definitionally it does feel like you're work from a different base than most folks.

Might be loyal, but not exclusive, hence why people need to start chilling with the NTR concept and lower it to a more popularized one, which is a random stranger not part of the harem nor the family suddenly taking space in your comfort zone and having NSFW scenes with the LIs.
It's starting to be pretty boring to have 50 shades of NTR.

 

[Pinkgator]

I'm definitely not going to play, maybe till all the tags are better defined. I just wanted clarification on that NTR tag as it came and went.

GL with the game.

the Hell was the point of the Messages then?

 

[Abbaboye]

Might be loyal, but not exclusive

Sounds great to me, clear and concise. I think it would be NTR if random futas just turn up doing whatever. Initially that's what I thought.

 

[Abbaboye]

the Hell was the point of the Messages then?

Because it obviously has stuff I want to try but not see? So one for the future.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Might be loyal, but not exclusive, hence why people need to start chilling with the NTR concept and lower it to a more popularized one, which is a random stranger not part of the harem nor the family suddenly taking space in your comfort zone and having NSFW scenes with the LIs.
It's starting to be pretty boring to have 50 shades of NTR.

Tagging here is really problematic, especially with a very unhinged vocal minority like we have, because Mods just take the reporter's word for it. There's not enough of them to run down every tag report and verify that it's accurate sadly. But the overly sensitive goobers, make it really hard for people like me to actually use the tags for exclusionary purposes. C'est la vie.

 

[Abbaboye]

I did not know that, shame the system was abused for that. Hence why I wanted to learn from the dev.

 

[Pinkgator]

Because it obviously has stuff I want to try but not see? So one for the future.

than it have so much to see, just dont watch the last update. its so good.

 

[DW1690]

Ngl feeling a lot of pain after deleting my v1.1 port of the game now i gotta hope that guy can help me run it in joiplay. Fingers crossed.

 

[sexyegg]

Personally i like the blackmail route, and I think it would be cool to let that continue with characters but having multiple routes for each character would be way more work. I look forward to when we return to the mom and thicc characters again. I know I said this in a different comment, but it seems like the mom's butt gets smaller in some scenes, especially since the little rework. was that intentional?

 

[Pinkgator]

Ngl feeling a lot of pain after deleting my v1.1 port of the game now i gotta hope that guy can help me run it in joiplay. Fingers crossed.

Discord got a guy to run it. so check it there. good luck.

 

[Vinkawa]

Personally i like the blackmail route, and I think it would be cool to let that continue with characters but having multiple routes for each character would be way more work. I look forward to when we return to the mom and thicc characters again. I know I said this in a different comment, but it seems like the mom's butt gets smaller in some scenes, especially since the little rework. was that intentional?

It might just be the perspective, I haven't touched any bone's scaling.