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Hmm... You might need to schedule a session with Dr. Amana.It's an interesting notion. I'd like to release the models to the public one day, but first I want to be sure I told every story I wanted to tell with them. And tbh, I'm sort of dreading the appearance of the first fan-render of a horse-donged Macy violating Futa-Denise's back door.![]()
I'm surprised and impressed that you were able to get such unique character designs out of DAZ. I thought for sure those were custom ZBrush sculpts.Since the girls in LomL aren't store-bought-as-is (which most girls in VNs seem to be), and I haven't released them to the public yet, I think it'll be very hard for anyone to recreate them. Basically, they're genesis 8's, with an awful lot of 200 plus head and face morphs and Gen 8 female body morphs and some natural breasts morphs thrown in, and a dash of cartoonized. Skins come from some characters in one of the Victoria 8 packs I think, but I tweaked those as well.
Well, like I said, 200 plus head and face morphs, Genesis 8 female body morphs and Natural breasts morphs are the basis. Dash of Cartoonized to take the edge of the uncanny valley. Skins are Rebekah and Elisabeth for gen8, but customized. Macy's tats come from one of the Inked packs by Shanassoulmate, and some are custom. For the other characters, that holds true as well except for the skins, although with one or two, I might have dialed in a bit of a store character, for instance Ethel (the dinner lady) has about a 3rd of Edie dialed in.It would be interesting to see a list of assets used to make the models. (...)
Well, doctor, it's been offered up as a suggestion for a custom render on more than one occasion, so I just figured that would be high on the list. But anyway, about my mother's boobs...(...)
Do you have any ideas why this scenario was the first thing to come to mind at the thought of loosening control of the character models?
Denise's ass is perfection. It's like shall never be seen again.Since the girls in LomL aren't store-bought-as-is (which most girls in VNs seem to be), and I haven't released them to the public yet, I think it'll be very hard for anyone to recreate them. Basically, they're genesis 8's, with an awful lot of 200 plus head and face morphs and Gen 8 female body morphs and some natural breasts morphs thrown in, and a dash of cartoonized. Skins come from some characters in one of the Victoria 8 packs I think, but I tweaked those as well.
You, Sir, are not in any way a nice and considerate man! Now I have to work myself way down a bottle of something strong before I'll have any hope of sleeping.A mentoring guide for those of us who are just starting out. I tried customizing a figure and this is what I got:
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Sorry about that. I have no idea how tweaking various aspects of the face did that. I made too many changes at once without checking to see what the rendered result was.You, Sir, are not in any way a nice and considerate man! Now I have to work myself way down a bottle of something strong before I'll have any hope of sleeping.
I love these characters too, and of course, I would not like to see them appearing out of character in other developer's game. On the other hand, it would be nice to see them in a cameo scene in another developer's creation, if he would respect the original characters behavior. I wouldn't enjoy a scene involving Denise in a gang-bang action in some back alley, for instance. Even if it was just something the MC saw from the corner of his eye as he was driving downtown for the main event of his game.One of the (many) things I really, REALLY appreciate in LomL is that the models can't be found in 137 other games of wildly varying quality.
Please, pretty please, don't ever release them for general consumption!
Yeah, it pays to take a look at actual photography techniques when you want to get going with DAZ, because it tries to simulate how actual light works, so the principles apply to it practically one-on-one. Basically, when I got started and noticed my renders were not coming like I would like them, I read up on the three-point lighting system and took it from there, picking up tricks along the way ever since.Besides the custom tweaks and the posing, another important aspect of making a good looking render is the way of how you light the model and the scene. I've seen a lot of devs who only use on-axis frontal lighting, resulting in flat looking faces with ugly highlights and pinpoint catchlights smack in the middle of the eyes. Even the inside of the models mouth is lit. This is the equivalent of talking a picture with a pop-up flash. You can get away with it if your name is Terry Richardson, but most of the time this does not result in a flattering picture.
Other devs go even further and render scenes which seem to have been created inside a light box. No direction of the light, no light falloff on the background, no contrast, no depth.
Naughtyroad and a few others on the other hand, manage to light their scenes in a way that is both realistic and enhances the mood. It is also flattering for the models, making them look more attractive. As an amateur photographer, I tend to notice such things.
Even if I can't follow most of that, you sound like you know what you're doing, so I'll let you get on with it (unsupervised).Yeah, it pays to take a look at actual photography techniques when you want to get going with DAZ, because it tries to simulate how actual light works, so the principles apply to it practically one-on-one. Basically, when I got started and noticed my renders were not coming like I would like them, I read up on the three-point lighting system and took it from there, picking up tricks along the way ever since.
And of course, you need to think about your set when you come up with a lighting plan, or better, you need to start with the set as the lighting follows from it, and then figure out how to get that to look good on the model.
The other flaws you describe, there's good technical explanations for some, for instance a rookie artist not realizing or caring that the DAZ camera comes with a built-in headlight that needs to be disabled. For the light box effect, I assume it's overly relying on ghost lights and/or out-of-the-box products that don't adapt well to different sets.
She has Dreamworks face.Her new visage is definitely less disturbing.
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I've had premade poses that can randomly cause weird distortions. The eyes and the hands seem to be affected the most - at least for me.A mentoring guide for those of us who are just starting out. I tried customizing a figure and this is what I got:
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I have learned enough about lighting in Dev Studio to know that I know little about lightning in Daz Studio. Although, I did do this one:Besides the custom tweaks and the posing, another important aspect of making a good looking render is the way of how you light the model and the scene. I've seen a lot of devs who only use on-axis frontal lighting, resulting in flat looking faces with ugly highlights and pinpoint catchlights smack in the middle of the eyes. Even the inside of the models mouth is lit. This is the equivalent of talking a picture with a pop-up flash. You can get away with it if your name is Terry Richardson, but most of the time this does not result in a flattering picture.
Other devs go even further and render scenes which seem to have been created inside a light box. No direction of the light, no light falloff on the background, no contrast, no depth.
Naughtyroad and a few others on the other hand, manage to light their scenes in a way that is both realistic and enhances the mood. It is also flattering for the models, making them look more attractive. As an amateur photographer, I tend to notice such things.
Yeah, three-point light is the alphabet of rendering, but it doesn't always work well. For example, in a studio scene, in a portrait, this is a good technique. Also in the sprites you use.Yeah, it pays to take a look at actual photography techniques when you want to get going with DAZ, because it tries to simulate how actual light works, so the principles apply to it practically one-on-one. Basically, when I got started and noticed my renders were not coming like I would like them, I read up on the three-point lighting system and took it from there, picking up tricks along the way ever since.
And of course, you need to think about your set when you come up with a lighting plan, or better, you need to start with the set as the lighting follows from it, and then figure out how to get that to look good on the model.
The other flaws you describe, there's good technical explanations for some, for instance a rookie artist not realizing or caring that the DAZ camera comes with a built-in headlight that needs to be disabled. For the light box effect, I assume it's overly relying on ghost lights and/or out-of-the-box products that don't adapt well to different sets.
Sorry about that. I have no idea how tweaking various aspects of the face did that. I made too many changes at once without checking to see what the rendered result was.
Her new visage is definitely less disturbing.
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Absolutely. Nowadays there even exists a 3d software package called Setalight. It allows you to build a virtual studio with daz-like models, different lights and modifiers and a virtual camera, so you can experiment with different lighting setups and the effect they have on your picture. Daz3d for photographers if you like.Yeah, it pays to take a look at actual photography techniques when you want to get going with DAZ, because it tries to simulate how actual light works, so the principles apply to it practically one-on-one.
Well, maybe thats someones kink.a mix of Mr. Potato and clay figures you used to make when you are a little kid.
So what you are saying is that i could be a millionaire?Well, maybe thats someones kink.
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