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Miðgarðsormr

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Game is good, but in terms of fetish...tbh I endured all that Lesbian stuff (totally not my cup of tea) Just to get some vanilla moment with older "ward" :oops:
And I'd say that scene alone was totally worth it, just flawless, no kidding.
I am also not into this lesbian stuff but it is needed for the story and the payoff is as you said yourself totally worth it.
 
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gotmy223

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May i ask why? Is it her personality or the storyline of her?
Definitely her personality.

I guess it's because I know a few people that have severe anxiety issues like her, yet they act completely different. She's a paradox. Her anxiety is so bad that she can't even be in a museum with a group of people, but yet she's so pushy and bossy. She has so little life experience that she didn't even know what an organism was, yet she feels entitled enough to attempt to "fix" the lives of two adults.

It feels like the story (so far) is driven by Lou's (and Macy's) need to placate Denise due to how emotionally fragile she is (anxiety), yet Denise weaponizes that in order to constantly get her way.

Basically, she comes off as a pouty brat IMO, and I generally find those types of people to be very annoying.

If this wasn't a porn game, I would have locked out her path the first chance I got. LOL!
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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Definitely her personality.

I guess it's because I know a few people that have severe anxiety issues like her, yet they act completely different. She's a paradox. Her anxiety is so bad that she can't even be in a museum with a group of people, but yet she's so pushy and bossy. She has so little life experience that she didn't even know what an organism was, yet she feels entitled enough to attempt to "fix" the lives of two adults.

It feels like the story (so far) is driven by Lou's (and Macy's) need to placate Denise due to how emotionally fragile she is (anxiety), yet Denise weaponizes that in order to constantly get her way.

Basically, she comes off as a pouty brat IMO, and I generally find those types of people to be very annoying.

If this wasn't a porn game, I would have locked out her path the first chance I got. LOL!
I can see where you are coming from and rightfully so. But if you pay attention to the story there is a need for all of this. Denise starts as someone very shy and gets her new found self esteem and anxiety tackling approach from the relationship with the MC and her sister.

So realizing that this helps her dealing with her anxiety and self esteem she keeps pursuing this with maximum effort. Hence the pushy and bossy behaviour. She can't afford to fall back in her mental state from before.

While this helps maybe explain why that is, it does nothing to make her like more if you don't like such ppl or behaviour of such ppl in general. Yet i hope you can find it in you to continue this wonderful game and the amazing story and enjoy it to the fullest as the rest of us does.
 

gotmy223

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I can see where you are coming from and rightfully so. But if you pay attention to the story there is a need for all of this. Denise starts as someone very shy and gets her new found self esteem and anxiety tackling approach from the relationship with the MC and her sister.

So realizing that this helps her dealing with her anxiety and self esteem she keeps pursuing this with maximum effort. Hence the pushy and bossy behaviour. She can't afford to fall back in her mental state from before.

While this helps maybe explain why that is, it does nothing to make her like more if you don't like such ppl or behaviour of such ppl in general. Yet i hope you can find it in you to continue this wonderful game and the amazing story and enjoy it to the fullest as the rest of us does.
I'm not question her motives. In fact, her motives for being the way she is are irrelevant to my opinion of her. For example, when you want to go outside and play ball with your friends on a chilly day, and your mom insist that you put on a coat. Her motives aren't harmful, but that still doesn't make her insistence any less annoying.

And I'm also not seeing what you're seeing in terms of her tackling (or dealing) with her anxiety (at least not through Chapter 4). If you don't make choses that are in line with what she wants (i.e. she doesn't get her way), her anxiety goes up. That's not tackling anything IMO. People with anxiety tend to have this need to be in constant control, and when they feel like they are not, they go into panic mode. This is exactly what she does, and is the bases for most of the characters' actions in the game thus far. One of the main challenges for people with anxiety is letting go. Not having things that are out of their control effect them in a negative way (emotionally). I'm assuming this starts to change for Denise in Chapters 5 and 6 (I haven't gotten there yet), because, right now, I'm not seeing any of that.

All I see is a pouty, pushy brat. One with genuine, heartfelt, motives; but still a pouty, pushy brat none the less (there are just to many negative consequences to her not getting her way).

And don't think for a second that my opinion of Denise is a critique on the game, or is having any negative effect on my enjoyment of the game. It's actually quite the opposite. Think about how well written this story is for me to spend this much time explaining my opinions of a character as if I was talking about a real person.
 
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Count Morado

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can someone share a save file torwards the end pls? hdd broke
Remember, any save won't have your personal preferences. Not only are there three choices in romance (with or without the wards, with or without Brooke, with or without the coven), there are small decisions made along the way which determine the flavor of the story you are playing. I even made a grumpy old man version in which the MC is a dick to everyone and there are no lewd scenes.

If you are just wanting to unlock all the images - there's a way to do that at the beginning of a playthrough.
 

Nizzquizz

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I'm not question her motives. In fact, her motives for being the way she is are irrelevant to my opinion of her. For example, when you want to go outside and play ball with your friends on a chilly day, and your mom insist that you put on a coat. Her motives aren't harmful, but that still doesn't make her insistence any less annoying.

And I'm also not seeing what you're seeing in terms of her tackling (or dealing) with her anxiety (at least not through Chapter 4). If you don't make choses that are in line with what see wants (i.e. she doesn't get her way), her anxiety goes up. That's not tackling anything IMO. People with anxiety tend to have this need to be in constant control, and when they feel like they are not, they go into panic mode. This is exactly what she does, and is the bases for most of the characters' actions in the game thus far. One of the main challenges for people with anxiety is letting go. Not having things that are out of their control effect them in a negative way (emotionally). I'm assuming this starts to change for Denise in Chapters 5 and 6 (I haven't gotten there yet), because, right now, I'm not seeing any of that.

All I see is a pouty, pushy brat. One with genuine, heartfelt, motives; but still a pouty, pushy brat none the less (there are just to many negative consequences to her not getting her way).

And don't think for a second that my opinion of Denise is a critique on the game, or is having any negative effect on my enjoyment of the game. It's actually quite the opposite. Think about how well written this story is for me to spend this much time explaining my opinions of a character as if I was talking about a real person.
Actually a valid opinion imo. Denise does come off as over the line pushy at times, and downright manipulative at others.
And your point of the story basically circling more around Dad and Macy placating her than the whole coping with loss thingy is also pretty spot on.
I think it's one of those cases, where you're either on board with her soft lead (by gauding others into 'leading' her.. not a second do I believe her to be that naive / clueless), or getting repelled by it rather quickly.
That said, for me I'm kinda glad about this kind of focus - I find her endearing and honestly the only character in the game I really care about. Macy is a nice added bonus (I'm also a fan of lesbian scenes, so - double bonus for me ^^), the others are either boring or downright off-putting to me.
 

gotmy223

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Actually a valid opinion imo. Denise does come off as over the line pushy at times, and downright manipulative at others.
And your point of the story basically circling more around Dad and Macy placating her than the whole coping with loss thingy is also pretty spot on.
I think it's one of those cases, where you're either on board with her soft lead (by gauding others into 'leading' her.. not a second do I believe her to be that naive / clueless), or getting repelled by it rather quickly.
That said, for me I'm kinda glad about this kind of focus - I find her endearing and honestly the only character in the game I really care about. Macy is a nice added bonus (I'm also a fan of lesbian scenes, so - double bonus for me ^^), the others are either boring or downright off-putting to me.
Macy is the character that keeps me engaged in this story. She's the character that most resembles a real person. There is genuine sorrow with her. Regret, sadness, confliction. She's probably the most relatable character I've ever come across in an adult game/VN. She is so well written that her emotions feel real, and her anger is completely understandable.

I don't have that type of connection with Denise. I'm constantly rolling my eyes as I read her dialogue. The fact that she is 18 and using terms like "manly bits" doesn't help. LOL! There's been at least a dozen times so far where I've wished that I had the option to tell her to shut the fuck up. But then that would likely result in a +5 Anxiety and a Game Over screen. LOL!
 
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I guess it's because I know a few people that have severe anxiety issues like her, yet they act completely different. She's a paradox. Her anxiety is so bad that she can't even be in a museum with a group of people, but yet she's so pushy and bossy.
There are a lot of things that influence people's personality and behavior, and I actually don't see that as a paradox. Her social anxiety is affecting how she presents to other people, meaning if she didn't have that social anxiety, she might be just as pushy and bossy as she is in the comfort of her home. But, also, and I think this is the intention of the dev maybe, she's pushy and bossy partly due to the fact that she has extreme social anxiety... and also I think the dev thought it made her cute, and it does imo; it is a sex game after all so we can't expect things like that to be neglected :p I liked that during the butt play sequence, I got to be a little pushy back and she took it like a champ... hope there's more of that eheheheh :devilish:.
 

AlfAlf

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Should just remove the workupload link cuz the 002 file is unextractable. Downloaded from mediafire and it was just 1 zip file so it worked fine.
 

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There are a lot of things that influence people's personality and behavior, and I actually don't see that as a paradox. Her social anxiety is affecting how she presents to other people, meaning if she didn't have that social anxiety, she might be just as pushy and bossy as she is in the comfort of her home. But, also, and I think this is the intention of the dev maybe, she's pushy and bossy partly due to the fact that she has extreme social anxiety... and also I think the dev thought it made her cute, and it does imo; it is a sex game after all so we can't expect things like that to be neglected :p I liked that during the butt play sequence, I got to be a little pushy back and she took it like a champ... hope there's more of that eheheheh :devilish:.
Did the D*d insert the tip inside her ass and came a bit inside? I can't remember exactly. In the gallery is no text as well during the scene.
 
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