VN Ren'Py Light of My Life [Ch. 8 v0.8.1] [Naughty Road]

[EclipseTheStars]

Compress the android version pls i want to play it

unfortunately this has been asked for on every page since the game released, don't see it happening (any time soon)

 

[seamanq]

LexArma Sadly, too many games are poorly written. I just wrote my first walkthrough for a game because it was impossibly designed so that certain scenes would only appear if love and trust points were both within certain narrow parameters. Shoddy design to say the least. This is one of the games that I would least think requires a walkthrough.

naughtyroad Good on yer mate. The electrode on the monkey's balls is one step away from Pavlov's dogs, which my 9th grade homeroom teacher (Science) used to torture us hapless teens when we wanted to jump up when the bell rang. I digress. I was going to suggest that you add a comment to the OP regarding walkthroughs, but you already did. I would hotlink something in that statement to the post you just wrote so people can read the more in-depth statement.

Regarding all the naysayers, complainers about not enough sex, complainers about slow uploads, and people who are just generally disgruntled and want to piss all over other people's VERY hard work, in the word's of

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grandfather: "Screw 'em." Your work is one of the best VNs on this site, it's perfect the way it is, and it comes in exactly the time that quality work of this sort takes. If people can't get that, well ... screw 'em.

 

[pokemonnnnn]

Any actual penetration content yet? This game is great but god damn it’s a super slow burn

 

[namakun]

very good

 

[B.S.K]

I played the entire update on a sitting and holy fck, how is it possible that I'm still CRAVING for more naughtyroad !?
It has been a really, really fun and 'enjoyable' time.
I've seen comments talking about the game bein slow paced, but hey, it is worth every damn update and second of waiting. I mean, for real,

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Thank you for this amazing story, I'll be expectant of what comes next, no pressure tho !

 

[Een Vieze Vent]

Oh my god, I hate the walk through mod. - A rant

Introduction

So, a little while back, a walk through mod appeared, and I was sort of flattered that people would like this game enough to go through such lengths to create one. Strapped for time, I didn't try it. I did now. I fucking HATE it...

I mean, I don't hate the concept of a walk through mod. We've all played that game where you had to pick the right choices or GAME OVER! Or even more fun, it first let you play on for another 30 minutes and then GAME OVER! Or it's cousin, pick the right arbitrary choice or it's NO LEWD FOR YOU!. Even more fun if that has a delayed action because you'll never know why you never got that scene.


Like goddamn monkeys in a lab

So, we've all been trained by these poor designs, as they are staple to the genre. You pick the right choice, you get a lewd. Pick wrong, you're not gonna like this...

Like a monkey in a lab, the machine says “1+1?”, and the monkey presses “2”, and he gets a peanut. He presses “1” or “3”, and he's treated to a nice electrical shock to the balls. Ouch. Good monkeys quickly learn to press”2” when the machine says “1+1?”

So, when making LomL, I made sure there were no such choices in there. You pick the answer you think is right for you, and the game tries to react to that. But it's not gonna fuck you out of content because you didn't say “That soup is delicious”. I mean, c'mon, do you think that in a normal conversation, your partner is gonna make you sleep on the couch when you tell them it's a nice first try, but it could have used a little more salt? Well, Light of my Life doesn't do that, anyway.

So, LomL is doing it's best to not be that game. But there are choices in there that have consequences, and that includes consequences that you might want to avoid, but the player next to you doesn't.


Please follow the instructions to attach the electrodes to your relevant sensitive body parts

So, along comes the walk-through mod, and it is presented as “Highlights the best choices.” by the author.
.
..
...
For real? My game, the one that I wrote, has Best Choices? That's news even to me.

Because most of the time the choices in there are there give your MC a voice in stuff, even if in the end it changes fuck all, at least you got to open your mouth and say something.

Then, there's quite a few choices for the player to indicate their own, personal preference. Which is your preference as a player, and there is no right or wrong to any of that, that's just bullshit.

It's like we strapped the electrodes to our relevant sensitive body parts yourself, and now you're sitting there, clicking through the game. Hoping for a peanut but dreading, dreading the jolt of electricity.

Only there's no goddamn jolt coming. There never was. For Light of my Life, the machine is a lie, it won't hurt us. LomL wants us to enjoy ourselves, not jolt our privates (unless you're into that, you perv).
But like a good little monkey we keep pressing green to avoid the jolt. Maybe get a peanut, even if it tastes a little like machine oil from coming out of that contraption instead of a nice and clean tasting one we foraged ourselves. And we just tell ourselves we need to machine to tell us how to get the peanut, and not the jolt, no not the jolt, even if there's not gonna be a jolt, ever.


Just let me have my training wheels, okay Naughty?

Right. They give you a sense of security, even if you don't really need them. I get that.
But it's worse. The walk-through mod is pretty dumb, the mod maker wasn't very thorough and didn't look at any of the code they were touching, and my scripts and dialogues are pretty convoluted.

And that means that the walk-through mod is giving you green on choices that are Worst Choice.

I could start to list them, but I'm not gonna bother because there's sooo many. Here's what I found:

Green for no reason
Most choices the mod considers green have absolutely no effect on the outcome of the game either way. They make the conversation flow this way or that, and give your MC a voice and a personality for you to define, but that's it. But you don't know that, so you click green and wonder why this game has so little personality to it. Luckily no jolts so far, but, hmmm.

Insincere chikenshit MC
I did notice a distinct pattern to the green choices though, and it's pretty awful. When given the option, they always pick the choice that doesn't make Macy roll her eyes, or doesn't made Denise look puzzled. Quite often, you're prompted to keep your mouth shut and miss some funny or endearing dialog because of that. Goddamn waste of my time that was, writing that up!

But why, why isn't GREEEN always Best Choice?

Presumably, that's because the mod maker thinks that anything that puts a wrinkle in your wards forehead means they won't put out. It's utter bullshit of course, and I should know. But it leaves your MC a spineless wimp that avoids even the slightest chance of confrontation and goes around telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear to suck up to them.

I get the comments about the non-entity MC on the forum now. Fucking hell, I wanted to punch the MC that the walk-through mod made me be in the face, for being such a weaselly chickenshit.

Some Best Choice is Worst Choice in another context
Sometimes in LomL, choice no 1 is best for low love situations and choice no 2 for high love, and no choice should be highlighted as best choice for middle love. But the mod doesn't take that into account, and happily steers you towards a choice that will gain you a Love Point if your love is already high, but lose you a love point if love is not all that high, because the character you're talking to thinks you're being inappropriate or presumptuous.

But at least I won't miss anything, right?
What I expect from a walk-through is that it's completionist, and takes me on a path that shows me everything in the game. But at quite a few points where you got to make a choice to engage in a certain kink or activity, none of the options were green at all.
That's the one point where it would make sense, but it's letting you down and possibly really miss out on something because you stopped reading dialog earlier as Light of my Life is the game where you press green and everything comes out Best Choice. So you think this won't matter because it's unmarked, and click something at random, and you miss out.

TLDR;
So arguably, the walk-through mod does in fact present you with some pretty poor choices. And on quite a few occasions, what I would consider the “Worst Choice”. And it doesn't offer you assistance with some choices that do matter. And it sucks the life out of it and makes you act like a spineless wimp.


But naughty, I don't want Worst Choices, ever!

I know, I get that. But you know what? A worst choice once in a while doesn't matter at all. Let me elaborate.

Love points in LomL are capped at 10. They're capped at 10 for a reason. If you do a perfect run from the view of gathering points, Denise maxes out at chapter 2, Macy maxes out at chapter 3 I believe. Every love point gained after that is wasted.

It means two things:

• One: you can stand to miss quite a few love points and still max them out.
• Two: chasing them serves no purpose at all, as they go to waste after capping anyways.

Did you realize that already? Well, you do now.

So, why put them in in the first place?

Well, for one, I wanted a mechanism for you to gouge what your standing is with a love interest. If you're not having a perfect run, I wanted a way to let you know if you are doing sorta good or sorta bad. And not doing a perfect run is fine.

Secondly, I wanted to give you some feedback on how the characters felt about things you say and do, especially in those circumstances where the character might be acting all tough and indifferent, to hide their feelings (*cough* Macy *cough *)

Spoiler: Some more on love points (skip if you want).

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But naughty, are you some kind of walkthrough hater?

Fuck no. I made light of my life so you don't need one, but I worked together with my compatriot Een Vieze Vent to make one. It only shows you the choices that actually matter. But it's not yet updated to chapter 5 (that's on me).


Right, let's lynch the effin' walk-through mod maker.

Jeez, no! It's not their fault. They're only trying to fulfil a demand and provide a service to the community, and that's to be appreciated.

What's more, they've been brainwashed - same as us - into believing the way into a VN girls pants is though a combination of being an insincere sleaze sucking up to them by only telling them what they want to hear, and jumping on any, any first opportunity to lewd like a horn dog, so as not to miss a slight hint that locks you out of a major lewd scene. They also got punished same as us by horrible design with arbitrary choices being WRONG <BZZZZT>, and fucking you out of content as a consequence. So it's no wonder the walk-through mod comes out as horrible as it does, it's inspired by horrible games in that regard.

At the same time, they did do a bit of a rush job, to put it mildly, and I don't much care for how they arbitrarily sprinkled splashes of green all over something I spent seven months toiling on, and how it is sucking the very spirit out of it when you use it.


So now what? I need my security blanket.

Well, I'm gonna team up with ViezeVent again if he's game. I haven't reached out to him yet because it's been a madhouse, but I will. So there will be an official unofficial walk-though document again.

Also, I am more than willing to share the documentation I have about the choices in LomL and their consequences with someone seeking to make a walk-through mod. But I'd need their commitment that they'll spend more than two hours on it slapping green on some dialog choices without looking at the context of that choice, and won't steer you in choices where there is no particularly bad or good consequence to your choices.

But really, I hoped that by now I'd have talked you out of your insecurity when it comes to Light of my Life and jolts to your sensitive parts.

I'm game for it, as always, I would've reached out to you earlier if these last few weeks at work weren't so fucking hectic, giving me not much time to do anything else atm (different stuff for different devs too lulz). So feel free to hit me up (Discord preferly) whenever you have time

Also, happy new year!

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

Happy new year everyone! May the Denise and Macy kinda girls smile upon you

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I would like to keep Zarah at the end too.

She's probably my fave outside of the daughters.

Office precious coming in a close 3rd.

Same. Including specifying with the daughters, my ordering is: Macy, Denise, Zarah, and Sierra. I like all of the girls, but these are my favorites.

 

[jamdan]

Any actual penetration content yet? This game is great but god damn it’s a super slow burn

Denise has penetrated Macy with her fingers. Maybe even double-penetrated! Luckily, the bear didn't. That could've gotten nasty.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

If any of those folks insulting you feel a stinging sensation in their rear hind quarters, it will likely be me, breaking my foot off in their ass.

Damn, I didn't know I had this kink. Now I do: sounds hot.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Denise has penetrated Macy with her fingers. Maybe even double-penetrated! Luckily, the bear didn't. That could've gotten nasty.

Add a bestiality tag, I guess.

 

[seamanq]

Add a bestiality tag, I guess.

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[XPanda]

Naughty Road, Light of my Life is my favorite adult VN. Writing is excellent, models (including the faces) are sexy and well done. I am not a fan of tattoos, but they are well done and don't detract from anything. I didn't find your VN on F95Zone, but I became a member just to wait for your new update. I'm enjoying the slow burn and hating you for it at the same time.

 

[alutarox]

So this sentiment has probably been expressed in a hundred mod-deleted posts in this thread; but as far as I was concerned until yesterday, this was just the "VN with bad art" or commonly "ugh, that thing". I'd skip over it every time I was looking through games to play just cos of my preconcieved notions about its art.

I'm really glad I was wrong.

Yesterday I pretty randomly decided that it was time to give this game a shot. I had pretty much run out of games to play (would appreciate any recommendations btw, I like deeper but more "wholesome" games like this and MNF for instance) and I think I saw someone mention this game in the MNF thread (and the update made sure that it was in my mind) and so I decided just to give it a go.

I expected the game to be put together with passion, but not great, just as I (at the time) saw the art.

I found something deep, well-written and funny.

I genuinely laughed out loud fairly frequently, but also shed tears especially when the MC is talking to brooke about firing employees, the moment the employee was mentioning his car I was pretty much just reapeating "no, no, fuck, no, no" to myself.

I love how the characters actually feel like people the cycle of Macy's guilt for instance: I love my father -> I want to be with him -> I don't want to be with my mother due to jealously / being upset at the broken tradition -> I killed my mother -> I cause problems when I express my love for my father -> must avoid my father = hating myself. This conflicting with her still growing feelings for the MC making her even more angry at herself every time the MC expresses affection for her AND whenever he doesn't feels like an actual, complex character. I'm pretty sure that none of the characters that the MC actually interacts with are one-dimentional, even the coven are complex people with motives, wants and needs, even though they easily could have been a throwaway gag.

I REALLY wasn't expecting an entire section dedicated to critiquing art and the stories behind it and the characters mentioning that people viewing art differently made me think back to how I felt about the art of the game itself and made me realise that I no longer felt that way.

Basically, this is good shit, keep it up NR (and damn you for being another author that I'll constantly hope for updates from (though, as with all devs, take your time; content drought > author burnout))

TL;DR: you had me at "Chunky Chickas"

 

[EclipseTheStars]

jesus, some of you guys, i've got to be the biggest dick (heh) in this thread; and i can't understand how after all these years you complain about "the art style" - - it's original, it's average, it's not that NR can't draw things up "to standard" it's intentional, and it's not bad

and for fucks sake, if it hadn't gotten across yet, the premise of the game was never "fuck my daughters ASAP", i'd assume the entire reason there is an "at work" saga is because A) some people may not be "in to" the implied incest/incest route, and B) to get their jollies off because NR already had it in mind that sex between the d/wards would be a v9/v10 introduction

i feel so weird making a post like this because of how much i gripe about the developer communication and releases this year, but some of you will complain about ANYTHING/EVERYTHING - - at least i was consistent, fuck, i almost feel like i should apologize at this point, grow up *bleh*

 

[alutarox]

jesus, some of you guys, i've got to be the biggest dick (heh) in this thread; and i can't understand how after all these years you complain about "the art style" - - it's original, it's average, it's not that NR can't draw things up "to standard" it's intentional, and it's not bad

and for fucks sake, if it hadn't gotten across yet, the premise of the game was never "fuck my daughters ASAP", i'd assume the entire reason there is an "at work" saga is because A) some people may not be "in to" the implied incest/incest route, and B) to get their jollies off because NR already had it in mind that sex between the d/wards would be a v9/v10 introduction

i feel so weird making a post like this because of how much i gripe about the developer communication and releases this year, but some of you will complain about ANYTHING/EVERYTHING - - at least i was consistent, fuck, i almost feel like i should apologize at this point, grow up *bleh*

did you read the rest of my post? (I assume you were talking about my one) I was saying that I was wrong to feel that way, and that I loved it now

 

[FormerlyknownasOlheden]

Oh my god, I hate the walk through mod. - A rant

Introduction

So, a little while back, a walk through mod appeared, and I was sort of flattered that people would like this game enough to go through such lengths to create one. Strapped for time, I didn't try it. I did now. I fucking HATE it...

I mean, I don't hate the concept of a walk through mod. We've all played that game where you had to pick the right choices or GAME OVER! Or even more fun, it first let you play on for another 30 minutes and then GAME OVER! Or it's cousin, pick the right arbitrary choice or it's NO LEWD FOR YOU!. Even more fun if that has a delayed action because you'll never know why you never got that scene.


Like goddamn monkeys in a lab

So, we've all been trained by these poor designs, as they are staple to the genre. You pick the right choice, you get a lewd. Pick wrong, you're not gonna like this...

Like a monkey in a lab, the machine says “1+1?”, and the monkey presses “2”, and he gets a peanut. He presses “1” or “3”, and he's treated to a nice electrical shock to the balls. Ouch. Good monkeys quickly learn to press”2” when the machine says “1+1?”

So, when making LomL, I made sure there were no such choices in there. You pick the answer you think is right for you, and the game tries to react to that. But it's not gonna fuck you out of content because you didn't say “That soup is delicious”. I mean, c'mon, do you think that in a normal conversation, your partner is gonna make you sleep on the couch when you tell them it's a nice first try, but it could have used a little more salt? Well, Light of my Life doesn't do that, anyway.

So, LomL is doing it's best to not be that game. But there are choices in there that have consequences, and that includes consequences that you might want to avoid, but the player next to you doesn't.


Please follow the instructions to attach the electrodes to your relevant sensitive body parts

So, along comes the walk-through mod, and it is presented as “Highlights the best choices.” by the author.
.
..
...
For real? My game, the one that I wrote, has Best Choices? That's news even to me.

Because most of the time the choices in there are there give your MC a voice in stuff, even if in the end it changes fuck all, at least you got to open your mouth and say something.

Then, there's quite a few choices for the player to indicate their own, personal preference. Which is your preference as a player, and there is no right or wrong to any of that, that's just bullshit.

It's like we strapped the electrodes to our relevant sensitive body parts yourself, and now you're sitting there, clicking through the game. Hoping for a peanut but dreading, dreading the jolt of electricity.

Only there's no goddamn jolt coming. There never was. For Light of my Life, the machine is a lie, it won't hurt us. LomL wants us to enjoy ourselves, not jolt our privates (unless you're into that, you perv).
But like a good little monkey we keep pressing green to avoid the jolt. Maybe get a peanut, even if it tastes a little like machine oil from coming out of that contraption instead of a nice and clean tasting one we foraged ourselves. And we just tell ourselves we need to machine to tell us how to get the peanut, and not the jolt, no not the jolt, even if there's not gonna be a jolt, ever.


Just let me have my training wheels, okay Naughty?

Right. They give you a sense of security, even if you don't really need them. I get that.
But it's worse. The walk-through mod is pretty dumb, the mod maker wasn't very thorough and didn't look at any of the code they were touching, and my scripts and dialogues are pretty convoluted.

And that means that the walk-through mod is giving you green on choices that are Worst Choice.

I could start to list them, but I'm not gonna bother because there's sooo many. Here's what I found:

Green for no reason
Most choices the mod considers green have absolutely no effect on the outcome of the game either way. They make the conversation flow this way or that, and give your MC a voice and a personality for you to define, but that's it. But you don't know that, so you click green and wonder why this game has so little personality to it. Luckily no jolts so far, but, hmmm.

Insincere chikenshit MC
I did notice a distinct pattern to the green choices though, and it's pretty awful. When given the option, they always pick the choice that doesn't make Macy roll her eyes, or doesn't made Denise look puzzled. Quite often, you're prompted to keep your mouth shut and miss some funny or endearing dialog because of that. Goddamn waste of my time that was, writing that up!

But why, why isn't GREEEN always Best Choice?

Presumably, that's because the mod maker thinks that anything that puts a wrinkle in your wards forehead means they won't put out. It's utter bullshit of course, and I should know. But it leaves your MC a spineless wimp that avoids even the slightest chance of confrontation and goes around telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear to suck up to them.

I get the comments about the non-entity MC on the forum now. Fucking hell, I wanted to punch the MC that the walk-through mod made me be in the face, for being such a weaselly chickenshit.

Some Best Choice is Worst Choice in another context
Sometimes in LomL, choice no 1 is best for low love situations and choice no 2 for high love, and no choice should be highlighted as best choice for middle love. But the mod doesn't take that into account, and happily steers you towards a choice that will gain you a Love Point if your love is already high, but lose you a love point if love is not all that high, because the character you're talking to thinks you're being inappropriate or presumptuous.

But at least I won't miss anything, right?
What I expect from a walk-through is that it's completionist, and takes me on a path that shows me everything in the game. But at quite a few points where you got to make a choice to engage in a certain kink or activity, none of the options were green at all.
That's the one point where it would make sense, but it's letting you down and possibly really miss out on something because you stopped reading dialog earlier as Light of my Life is the game where you press green and everything comes out Best Choice. So you think this won't matter because it's unmarked, and click something at random, and you miss out.

TLDR;
So arguably, the walk-through mod does in fact present you with some pretty poor choices. And on quite a few occasions, what I would consider the “Worst Choice”. And it doesn't offer you assistance with some choices that do matter. And it sucks the life out of it and makes you act like a spineless wimp.


But naughty, I don't want Worst Choices, ever!

I know, I get that. But you know what? A worst choice once in a while doesn't matter at all. Let me elaborate.

Love points in LomL are capped at 10. They're capped at 10 for a reason. If you do a perfect run from the view of gathering points, Denise maxes out at chapter 2, Macy maxes out at chapter 3 I believe. Every love point gained after that is wasted.

It means two things:

• One: you can stand to miss quite a few love points and still max them out.
• Two: chasing them serves no purpose at all, as they go to waste after capping anyways.

Did you realize that already? Well, you do now.

So, why put them in in the first place?

Well, for one, I wanted a mechanism for you to gouge what your standing is with a love interest. If you're not having a perfect run, I wanted a way to let you know if you are doing sorta good or sorta bad. And not doing a perfect run is fine.

Secondly, I wanted to give you some feedback on how the characters felt about things you say and do, especially in those circumstances where the character might be acting all tough and indifferent, to hide their feelings (*cough* Macy *cough *)

Spoiler: Some more on love points (skip if you want).

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But naughty, are you some kind of walkthrough hater?

Fuck no. I made light of my life so you don't need one, but I worked together with my compatriot Een Vieze Vent to make one. It only shows you the choices that actually matter. But it's not yet updated to chapter 5 (that's on me).


Right, let's lynch the effin' walk-through mod maker.

Jeez, no! It's not their fault. They're only trying to fulfil a demand and provide a service to the community, and that's to be appreciated.

What's more, they've been brainwashed - same as us - into believing the way into a VN girls pants is though a combination of being an insincere sleaze sucking up to them by only telling them what they want to hear, and jumping on any, any first opportunity to lewd like a horn dog, so as not to miss a slight hint that locks you out of a major lewd scene. They also got punished same as us by horrible design with arbitrary choices being WRONG <BZZZZT>, and fucking you out of content as a consequence. So it's no wonder the walk-through mod comes out as horrible as it does, it's inspired by horrible games in that regard.

At the same time, they did do a bit of a rush job, to put it mildly, and I don't much care for how they arbitrarily sprinkled splashes of green all over something I spent seven months toiling on, and how it is sucking the very spirit out of it when you use it.


So now what? I need my security blanket.

Well, I'm gonna team up with ViezeVent again if he's game. I haven't reached out to him yet because it's been a madhouse, but I will. So there will be an official unofficial walk-though document again.

Also, I am more than willing to share the documentation I have about the choices in LomL and their consequences with someone seeking to make a walk-through mod. But I'd need their commitment that they'll spend more than two hours on it slapping green on some dialog choices without looking at the context of that choice, and won't steer you in choices where there is no particularly bad or good consequence to your choices.

But really, I hoped that by now I'd have talked you out of your insecurity when it comes to Light of my Life and jolts to your sensitive parts.

That, in itself is a fantastic piece of writing. It's bizarre that a dev can comment on the existence of a mod and make it more literary and readable than most pieces of fiction and non-fiction - not to mention most games on this site - published today. I'm in awe.

Apart from that, I'd forgotten just how much depth there is to this game. When I got the new chapter I wanted to replay the game from the start so as to have it in fresh memory when I got to the new stuff. That was yesterday. Played a couple of hours last night. Played quite a bit today as well. Still not caught up to the new stuff. I read a book - on average - in about four hours. This is more than that, and more immersive. We're so lucky to have you here as a dev. Happy new year Naughty.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

did you read the rest of my post? (I assume you were talking about my one) I was saying that I was wrong to feel that way, and that I loved it now

wasn't specifically targeting any 1 person in particular

 

[alutarox]

wasn't specifically targeting any 1 person in particular

Sorry for making assumptions, it's just I know my post could be read that way if you didn't go through the rest of it.

Plus I think I posted mine like 3 minutes before yours

 

[kare]

Ok, we need a wallpaper with daughters being interrogators and you stoically "Say nothing"