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Hey naughtyroad did you have to manipulate Daz stock models to achieve the look of the girls and MC?

I'm likely planning to make a small amateur game(emphasis on amateur) in the future for my own personal curiosity, but wanted to know which art programs to go with. Specifically I'm looking for something with decent mods/assets for African textured hair, darker skin tones, and variety of facial features.

I want to make a setting that has characters from diverse backgrounds. Unsure of which program to use, since Daz has the habit of putting out stock eurocentric models, and HS does the same for Asian centric, though you could edit it out if you have enough finesse.

Obviously the best answer is to make your own art. I'm still in the process of developing my 2D digital art and 3D sculpting skills, but they'd be kinda bad at the moment lol.

I'm not asking you to divulge your secret ingredient, just a little advice lol.
 
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Cheers, and thank you for the kind words :giggle:


Hey naughtyroad did you have to manipulate Daz stock models to achieve the look of the girls and MC?

I'm likely planning to make a small amateur game(emphasis on amateur) in the future for my own personal curiosity, but wanted to know which art programs to go with. Specifically I'm looking for something with decent mods/assets for African textured hair, darker skin tones, and variety of facial features.

I want to make a setting that has characters from diverse backgrounds. Unsure of which program to use, since Daz has the habit of putting out stock eurocentric models, and HS does the same for Asian centric, though you could edit it out if you have enough finesse.

Obviously the best answer is to make your own art. I'm still in the process of developing my 2D digital art and 3D sculpting skills, but they'd be kinda bad at the moment lol.

I'm not asking you to divulge your secret ingredient, just a little advice lol.
you definitely should, it's more fun than it has any right to be.

Personally, I'd prefer Daz, because of the quality of the images it puts out compared to HS, as well as being much more flexible in your options to customize and kitbash, and having a pretty much endless range of props, models etc. available (at a cost). There's a price to pay though, in both learning curve and time to produce stuff, but it's a trade-off I feel is worth it for giving me complete freedom.

It's true that quite a lot of what daz puts out is geared towards the European and North American market, but because there's so much, there's still a very decent range of assets for other looks and backgrounds available, so you should have no problem gathering the assets you need. Also keep in mind that you're not limited to the daz store, and places like renderocity (and renderotica for the naughty bits) have assets as well.

As for using the daz store, I have one tip: There's Always Another Sale. If you do see an asset you like, wishlist, wait for it to go on sale and then grab it. It takes the edge of initial cost for a starting dev.

As for my method in creating the girls of LomL, I relied heavily on some products that let me endlessly edit and tweak facial and body proportions, specifically the 200 plus head and face morphs and genesis 8 body morphs, as well as a few others. Then it's just a question of iterating on it until you're happy with it.

For skins, that's not something you just whip up from scratch, so I usually go with an existing character from the store and use that skin but not the shape (sometimes with just the slightest tweak to tone and such), but then do the face/body morphs in the way described above.
 
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Cheers, and thank you for the kind words :giggle:




you definitely should, it's more fun than it has any right to be.

Personally, I'd prefer Daz, because of the quality of the images it puts out compared to HS, as well as being much more flexible in your options to customize and kitbash, and having a pretty much endless range of props, models etc. available (at a cost). There's a price to pay though, in both learning curve and time to produce stuff, but it's a trade-off I feel is worth it for giving me complete freedom.

It's true that quite a lot of what daz puts out is geared towards the European and North American market, but because there's so much, there's still a very decent range of assets for other looks and backgrounds available, so you should have no problem gathering the assets you need. Also keep in mind that you're not limited to the daz store, and places like renderocity (and renderotica for the naughty bits) have assets as well.

As for using the daz store, I have one tip: There's Always Another Sale. If you do see an asset you like, wishlist, wait for it to go on sale and then grab it. It takes the edge of initial cost for a starting dev.

As for my method in creating the girls of LomL, I relied heavily on some products that let me endlessly edit and tweak facial and body proportions, specifically the 200 plus head and face morphs and genesis 8 body morphs, as well as a few others. Then it's just a question of iterating on it until you're happy with it.

For skins, that's not something you just whip up from scratch, so I usually go with an existing character from the store and use that skin but not the shape (sometimes with just the slightest tweak to tone and such), but then do the face/body morphs in the way described above.

Dear god i understood all of that.....I also know renderocity and renderotica as i constantly get mails from them despite not having visited in a year or longer.

But i managed to once make a genesis model of a very charming lady with clothes on and all body parts anatomically correct. It took me 2 months for her to not look like an abomination straight out a horror movie.

As for the assets part...... i asked a guy how much for an asian looking hottie unique model. After he responded to me and told me the price for clothes alone i abandoned the idea all together as a hobby. I always liked the idea of making a game of my own but im just good at writing.

All the other shit that is over 90% of the game is so god damn hard. It is unbelievable......And frustrating as fuck. Forgot to save? Ahh all your efforts of the last 6 hours gone in the wind. Why the fuck is this clothing not fitting the body. What do i have to come up with to put the lightning where i want it to be?

And why in gods name are the Teeth now out her skull? What is this sorcery? Oh great i paid 29.99 for female parts and now she has no butthole.......

In all fairness i would have tossed 4 computers out the window, set my office on fire...twice and beat the ever living shit out of the creator of 3 assets i bought if i ever had to make a game on my own. By the end of it i would have aged 20 years, gone completely bald, lost 20 kg in the process and my office would look like a WW2 Battlefield with a fire in the corner....

I am still amazed on how you keeping your calm with just some doodles on the progress bar. Kudos to you.


PS: But seriously how can you forget a butthole when you sell female body parts? HOW?
 
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PS: But seriously how can you forget a butthole when you sell female body parts? HOW?
Well, it's a widely known fact that girls don't poop, and if they fart, it's butterflies and rainbows... download (29).gif

As to the problems and frustration part, I feel you :ROFLMAO: / :cry: and, yeah, the learning curve is steep and sometimes just getting a thing to frigging work as it's supposed to is a challenge, but like all thing, with sufficient time and effort, dealing with it becomes second nature.
 

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Well, it's a widely known fact that girls don't poop, and if they fart, it's butterflies and rainbows... View attachment 1278640

As to the problems and frustration part, I feel you :ROFLMAO: / :cry: and, yeah, the learning curve is steep and sometimes just getting a thing to frigging work as it's supposed to is a challenge, but like all thing, with sufficient time and effort, dealing with it becomes second nature.
Kudos to you for dealing with the frustrating part that easy.
But for the rainbow stuff. I live with 3 women in my house. If what you say is true i have someone shitting in my bathroom aside from me........
 

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Cheers, and thank you for the kind words :giggle:




you definitely should, it's more fun than it has any right to be.

Personally, I'd prefer Daz, because of the quality of the images it puts out compared to HS, as well as being much more flexible in your options to customize and kitbash, and having a pretty much endless range of props, models etc. available (at a cost). There's a price to pay though, in both learning curve and time to produce stuff, but it's a trade-off I feel is worth it for giving me complete freedom.

It's true that quite a lot of what daz puts out is geared towards the European and North American market, but because there's so much, there's still a very decent range of assets for other looks and backgrounds available, so you should have no problem gathering the assets you need. Also keep in mind that you're not limited to the daz store, and places like renderocity (and renderotica for the naughty bits) have assets as well.

As for using the daz store, I have one tip: There's Always Another Sale. If you do see an asset you like, wishlist, wait for it to go on sale and then grab it. It takes the edge of initial cost for a starting dev.

As for my method in creating the girls of LomL, I relied heavily on some products that let me endlessly edit and tweak facial and body proportions, specifically the 200 plus head and face morphs and genesis 8 body morphs, as well as a few others. Then it's just a question of iterating on it until you're happy with it.

For skins, that's not something you just whip up from scratch, so I usually go with an existing character from the store and use that skin but not the shape (sometimes with just the slightest tweak to tone and such), but then do the face/body morphs in the way described above.
Thank you very much for this insight!

I actually tried Daz earlier with their starter Genesis 8 models and when rendering my computer was super loud, made me afraid that my fans were breaking lol. Not sure if my current rig is built for this then lol.

Still good to hear there is a variety of assets out there for devs on a budget, that's mainly what I was hoping for.
 

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I actually tried Daz earlier with their starter Genesis 8 models and when rendering my computer was super loud, made me afraid that my fans were breaking lol. Not sure if my current rig is built for this then lol.
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Yeah, chances are it's having trouble dealing with it.

Daz will utilize your CPU (and I mean, work the heck out of it) if you don't have a cuda device (e.g. an NVidia graphics card).
It'll also if you leave the CPU ticked on under render settings->advanced-?devices (and infuriatingly, it's on by default). And it'll fall back to it if your scene is to large to fit into the RAM on your NVidia graphics card.

People have burnt out their rigs rendering on CPU (especially on laptops, which aren't built to cope with the heat of 100% CPU utilization for prolonged periods of time).
 

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I'm really excited to play the next update. The writing in this games amazing, also the characters have a really unique design. And on top of that if wasn't for this developer I would have never found this site. When I first played this game and reached the end of that update he recommended F95zone. And I haven't gone back since, all other adult game sites would throttled my download speeds in an attempt to squeeze money from me. IF the developer ever reads this post, I like to give them a big thank you.
 

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I thought this game had been abandoned, and panicked for a second... But thank God it isn't! I really, REALLY like both the artwork and the script! naughtyroad thank you for your continued efforts! I'd love to be your supporter, but my country's currency went from 1 USD = 2.8 BRL to 1 USD = 5 BRL, and being unemployed makes things even harder... Hopefully, when my drawing tablet arrives (I invested everything I have in it :p) and I somehow manage to make some money off of my weird Trictal (tribal + fractal) drawings, I'll be able to finally buy you (and also Aleksey90) some coffee :D You can tell that I "hate" both games so much that somehow they made it into my sigs, hehe.
 

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I thought this game had been abandoned, and panicked for a second... But thank God it isn't! I really, REALLY like both the artwork and the script! naughtyroad thank you for your continued efforts! I'd love to be your supporter, but my country's currency went from 1 USD = 2.8 BRL to 1 USD = 5 BRL, and being unemployed makes things even harder... Hopefully, when my drawing tablet arrives (I invested everything I have in it :p) and I somehow manage to make some money off of my weird Trictal (tribal + fractal) drawings, I'll be able to finally buy you (and also Aleksey90) some coffee :D You can tell that I "hate" both games so much that somehow they made it into my sigs, hehe.
Don't worry this game can't be abandoned. I would personally look into this getting done and visit naughtyroad with maximum effort........

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BTW dev: when this project ends, you should use the sisters for your next project (if you have one) (y)

Recently i finaly finished some female mc games like Project Myriam - Life and Explorations, Anna Exciting Affection, The Office and MILF Warrior and found them to be more entertaining than male mc, so could be awesome to have a Macy or Denise mc game so bye for now duds!
 

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Cheers and no worries, first and foremost I hope it'll pan out for you and you'll be able to get back on your feet.

BTW dev: when this project ends, you should use the sisters for your next project (if you have one) (y)

Recently i finaly finished some female mc games like Project Myriam - Life and Explorations, Anna Exciting Affection, The Office and MILF Warrior and found them to be more entertaining than male mc, so could be awesome to have a Macy or Denise mc game so bye for now duds!
Well, it's an interesting notion, but for now, I still have no idea what the next project will be. There's some problems with setting M+D off on their own though; I don't really want to rob them of another caretaker, and I can't imagine them leaving each other willingly. I can imagine a temporary separation like the girls setting off for a trip together, or the male MC setting off on a business trip for a week or two, but something like that would last no longer than a single chapter side story at most, and it'd still require a story that makes sense for whatever happens in that period.

At any rate, first thing on the agenda is to finish this chapter, and ultimately, this game, and then we'll worry about future projects.
 

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Well, it's an interesting notion, but for now, I still have no idea what the next project will be. There's some problems with setting M+D off on their own though; I don't really want to rob them of another caretaker, and I can't imagine them leaving each other willingly. I can imagine a temporary separation like the girls setting off for a trip together, or the male MC setting off on a business trip for a week or two, but something like that would last no longer than a single chapter side story at most, and it'd still require a story that makes sense for whatever happens in that period.

At any rate, first thing on the agenda is to finish this chapter, and ultimately, this game, and then we'll worry about future projects.
Uh boy would i have ideas about that...... but i posted them enough already. My daughter however had an idea for a spin off.

When this game is finished they simply make their own story. Literally. All of them sit down and make Light of my Life.

Denise and the MC sitting on the table discussin a game gave her the idea. No clue how much of the stuff you already have you could reuse.
Her other idea was that they all go on a vacation on the same spot again as macy wants payback on that bear...........
 
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Is there a french mod for Light of my life? I thried searching the apropriate section of the forum but couldn't find any. So either I am blind or I will need to learn Ren'py coding and try doing it myself.
I want to share the game with my girl friend but her English is prety bad so here I am.
 
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