yoyomistro

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Sorry about your dad as well. Know the feeling and it just is horrific to go through.
For the hot and heat part. I just had to go swimming with my daughters and if there ever was a time to quote danny glover it was today. "I AM TO OLD FOR THIS SHIT" my body hurts in places i didn't even know i had...

But on the other side my youngest told me something very interesting other than she wants to write as well. Handed me her phone and showed me some stuff i won't even pretend to understand in this day and age but at the end of the conversation she asked something i think is perfectly represented in the game.

Since her mom and i are no longer together she asked about moving on and how it feels like betrayal even if it isn't. How do you as a child try to not judge the new partner of your parents in a negative way the moment you meet them? Is it something you do naturally or is it that you are jealous of some sort cause you think that new someone will take your parents away?

I explained.
Same goes for when your daughters have a boyfriend or a husband. You fucking hate that dude. He could be the president, the scientist who cured cancer or even the guy who found out how we all can be immortal. You just hate the dude for similar reasons. And no that feeling never goes away. You will hate that guy for as long as you live and beyond.

So we discussed this for some time and at the end all my daughters sat there and talked about it. Obviously different opinions on the topic but the main consens we established was that literally everybodies first reaction is jealousy out of fear for taking someone you love away from you.

Only way to counter all that hate and jealousy is by spreading love around the family and erase the notion that someone could take someone you love away from you.

I brought up this game as they all played it.

They think the main goal should be Brooke as new step mom and all of them living a healthy, loving 4 way relationship like old mormons did once upon a time.

On the other hand they hate the office ladies because they do not represent love but jealousy. They want something from the MC they seem to not have or miss in their relationships and not concerning the damage they could inflict once this goes out. Literally the worst case scenario if shit goes sideways and you destroy maybe not just your own family but 3 families in the process.

Brooke on the other hand did nothing immoral in that regard other than flirting or banging a man with no strings attached. So to them Brooke is the lesser evil that could become a gift of some sort for the family as a step mom.

The fascinating part however was them talking about lot and his daughters. They explained you could argue that before Lot found a new wife that could be even worse than their mom in terms of listening to god they took it upon their own duty to ensure giving birth to a new generation devoted to god instead of worse case scenario and they get another women like mom who won't listen to shit.

OR that purely out of jealousy to see their father with another women other than their mom they took it as their duty to ensure his manly needs are satisfied and giving him more healthy children he could teach about the devotion to god while also ensuring the love he has for them would never stop.

So 3 main reasons for them doing what they did. Devotion to god, jealousy and love.

You could start arguing the same about the story of the game. Macy for sure is jealous towards brooke and denise acting purely out of love for her family.

Like in the story of lot and his daughters you have 2 daughters who aside from the bible story and the devotion to god are acting out on similar reasons as they did. Love for one daughter as her driving motivation and one out of jealousy not wanting to see the MC with another women than herself out of fear she could lose him forever.


Edit: Sorry for the long post but i'm half beat to death here and had to get this out of my system before i forget half of it.:ROFLMAO:
Somehow this thread fell out of my notifications list... I hadn't stopped by for a while cuz I traveled and maybe missed it in the 100 notifications I got. It's funny how people get all these feelings of jealously as I've purposefully avoided LTRs my whole life and if I ever got into one it'd have to be non-exclusive... and not in that douche-y way some guys do where they really mean they just want to fuck around and have the girl be faithful, I mean actually non-exclusive.

It's interesting how people can feel that even in platonic relationships (maybe parent child is different, but if my parents ever got separated and new partners I wouldn't care as I don't much like one of them won't say which, lol). But like with all the incest games where it's a pervy brother and they hate all their sisters' boyfriends, I can't relate, I've been friends with all my sisters' serious boyfriends... I think it's cuz I associate monogamy with religion and the invention of patriarchal land ownership as a concept among humans, because we didn't evolve to be monogamous and that's obvious from the rate of cheating/divorces in most countries, and the lack of monogamy in a lot of extant tribes that have matriarchal systems or don't practice exclusive land ownership...

The point being I've associated monogamy/monoandry with religion and patriarchal property laws from a broader anthropological context since I was in like high school, and the dudes all over the internet, here included who scream "cuck" and "no NTR!!!1!111!" just reinforce that for me, so it's interesting seeing coherent explanations of that sort of jealously in the context of consuming a porn game with detailed, reasoned explanations from multiple genders... I also hadn't really been thinking about the office ladies from a gorgons/fates/sirens perpective, pick your poison, so that's a good observation from Dragon59 or whoever noted it originally.
 

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But like with all the incest games where it's a pervy brother and they hate all their sisters' boyfriends, I can't relate, I've been friends with all my sisters' serious boyfriends...
I think you are misunderstanding something very easy, no one will give a fuck about their real-life sisters even if they like incest (liking incest in games doesn't equal to like it in real life), when it comes to a game is different because those people ( including myself) want all the Li's whether they are landlady, mom, sister or roommate.
 

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I think you are misunderstanding something very easy, no one will give a fuck about their real-life sisters even if they like incest (liking incest in games doesn't equal to like it in real life), when it comes to a game is different because those people ( including myself) want all the Li's whether they are landlady, mom, sister or roommate.
As someone with a big family i can confirm this. We all love each other and hate each other from time to time but thats a line no one would ever cross for obvious reasons. Daydreaming about certain stuff sure is all fun and games but if it would turn to a reality it would be a horror show for everyone.
Incest in games? YAY gimme gimme gimme all the waifus that we can get.
Incest in real life? HELL NO are you freaking INSANE????

Alot of these games have to do with phantasies or trying stuff out. You may like some things and dislike other things but this is a safe haven to find or research your inner kinks.
 

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I also love the theme of incest and sisters, but if my own sister made some sexual hint, most likely I would just vomit. The mere thought of something like this makes me uncomfortable. Considering that my sister is pretty cute and we have a very close relationship.
 

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I admit that I don't have a credible opinion on the real brother-sister incest, nor on mother-son, nor on father-daughter. I have the misfortune (or not !) of having been abandoned when I was born, the penultimate year of WWII. So no real family, no experience with siblings, only a few false "aunts and uncles" in placement. My only "family" was only made up of brothers, within the French Foreign Legion. I quote the Code of Honor of the Legionary: "Art. 2 - Each legionary is your brother in arms, whatever his nationality, his race, his religion. You always show him the close solidarity which must unite the members of the same family.". Obviously, nothing sexual in there! No more family since, I am alone. And I like VNs with or without incest in the same way, what matters is the story and the credibility of the characters.
 

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I admit that I don't have a credible opinion on the real brother-sister incest, nor on mother-son, nor on father-daughter. I have the misfortune (or not !) of having been abandoned when I was born, the penultimate year of WWII. So no real family, no experience with siblings, only a few false "aunts and uncles" in placement. My only "family" was only made up of brothers, within the French Foreign Legion. I quote the Code of Honor of the Legionary: "Art. 2 - Each legionary is your brother in arms, whatever his nationality, his race, his religion. You always show him the close solidarity which must unite the members of the same family.". Obviously, nothing sexual in there! No more family since, I am alone. And I like VNs with or without incest in the same way, what matters is the story and the credibility of the characters.
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I think you are misunderstanding something very easy, no one will give a fuck about their real-life sisters even if they like incest (liking incest in games doesn't equal to like it in real life), when it comes to a game is different because those people ( including myself) want all the Li's whether they are landlady, mom, sister or roommate.
I think you're also misunderstanding what I'm saying... I'm kind of referencing the platonic jealousy Miðgarðsormr brought up, which is an interesting sentiment that I've never really thought too deeply about, even though I'm aware of it; and extrapolating it a bit to the 3 office workers in the way his family viewed them; and also separately referencing the more primal polygnynous jealousy a lot of people express on a different level and sort of musing on the origins of those feelings... I probably didn't do a good job in expressing those two concepts as separate, even though I subscribe to a Freudian view of the psychological nature of attraction and brain development (in the evolutionary biological sense of the brain extrapolating those processes in the evolution of the prolonged neotenic state of homo sapiens, not the facile, puerile way it's used in pop culture) but then that gets into a long discussion and I just wanted to make my point as quickly as possible...

I do like the incest games BTW but all the people who scream about cucking stuff also prevent stuff like MM group sex + incest games which I also like from being more popular lol... And then when people who make that content stop making it even though there's an audience for it that really grinds my gears... but that's neither here nor there in in this thread.
 

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I do like the incest games BTW but all the people who scream about cucking stuff also prevent stuff like MM group sex + incest games which I also like from being more popular lol... And then when people who make that content stop making it even though there's an audience for it that really grinds my gears... but that's neither here nor there in in this thread.
Do you mean "sharing" genre? Yeah, if this thing is served right, then I love it too. But out of all the huge set of games, I have met this kink, only in two or three.
 
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I do like the incest games BTW but all the people who scream about cucking stuff also prevent stuff like MM group sex + incest games which I also like from being more popular lol... And then when people who make that content stop making it even though there's an audience for it that really grinds my gears... but that's neither here nor there in in this thread.
Don't agree with you, and even less when you say "MM" group sex is very popular, if I know something is that there are many fetishes people hate (again including myself) MM is probably one of those, that goes with sharing and many others fetishes that involve a 3rd party (unless is mc and 2 girls).
Now you can use whatever term to define those people in which I include myself, but it won't change any time soon and for that, I'm very glad.

To put an example, in this game, there is some kind of "sisterly sharing" (between the mcs daughters) and even just that have some people avoiding the game, I'm not that radical and that is something I tolerate in a game but many others don't even accept that much, so nope.
In webs like pornhub or things like that where the content is real porn, people may not give a fuck what they watch since they may want just some fapping and be done with it... when it comes to games people can get attached to the LI, etc and they will be pickier about the content and fetishes.

And in this game where "Romance" is mostly the whole concept of the game and plot, is even less fitting mixing such content though nowadays some devs don't really care and mix some genres that should never go in the same game.
 

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The look of the characters in this game was a major turnoff, but I was bored so I gave this game a try... and wow, was it great (feels and faps galore)! :)

One thing I was wondering; are there different scenes depending on the characters anxiety and hate levels? Or does it just result in a bad end if I let those levels get too high...
 
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The look of the characters in this game was a major turnoff, but I was bored so I gave this game a try... and wow, was it great (feels and faps galore)! :)

One thing I was wondering; are there different scenes depending on the characters anxiety and hate levels? Or does it just result in a bad end if I let those levels get too high...

I make it a point to telegraph dangerous choices and keep you on the rails. Also, there's no mutually exclusive paths, so no need to hold off on any character out of fear of missing out with another.
I really recommend you try it without walkthrough or walk through mod on your first play and trust that I won't try to fuck you over with surprise lockouts/endings.
 

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Somehow this thread fell out of my notifications list... I hadn't stopped by for a while cuz I traveled and maybe missed it in the 100 notifications I got. It's funny how people get all these feelings of jealously as I've purposefully avoided LTRs my whole life and if I ever got into one it'd have to be non-exclusive... and not in that douche-y way some guys do where they really mean they just want to fuck around and have the girl be faithful, I mean actually non-exclusive.
My previous LTR and I joked in our first years together that we'd have to start dating others in order to retain our Polyamory membership card. :giggle: My very first relationship was part of a MFM "v" relationship. That probably helped shape my own attitude about "sharing."
It's interesting how people can feel that even in platonic relationships (maybe parent child is different, but if my parents ever got separated and new partners I wouldn't care as I don't much like one of them won't say which, lol). But like with all the incest games where it's a pervy brother and they hate all their sisters' boyfriends, I can't relate, I've been friends with all my sisters' serious boyfriends... I think it's cuz I associate monogamy with religion and the invention of patriarchal land ownership as a concept among humans, because we didn't evolve to be monogamous and that's obvious from the rate of cheating/divorces in most countries, and the lack of monogamy in a lot of extant tribes that have matriarchal systems or don't practice exclusive land ownership...

The point being I've associated monogamy/monoandry with religion and patriarchal property laws from a broader anthropological context since I was in like high school, and the dudes all over the internet, here included who scream "cuck" and "no NTR!!!1!111!" just reinforce that for me, so it's interesting seeing coherent explanations of that sort of jealously in the context of consuming a porn game with detailed, reasoned explanations from multiple genders...
Because my sister was five years younger, I really didn't have much interaction with her boyfriends, just her husband, and he wasn't very sociable with family.

Since these games treat sisters as LIs, more apropos would be my girlfriends' boyfriends, in the case of pre-existing relationships, I felt it was important to be friends with them, in the case of new boyfriends, I usually encouraged their exploration. So I expect even if I was a "pervy brother," I'd still not hate my sister's boyfriends without cause.

Definitely, there's a lot of misogyny in the historic institution of marriage. People often like to point out that we are more closely related to bonobo chimpanzees than Pan. Regarding religious aspects, one reason I walked away from the RCC at 13 was the official attitude toward women ("the only way to grace for a woman was through a man" Blech).
I also hadn't really been thinking about the office ladies from a gorgons/fates/sirens perpective, pick your poison, so that's a good observation from Dragon59 or whoever noted it originally.
I looked at them as a rather kinky Triple Goddess, Maiden/Mother/Crone. These other triples are pretty good as well.
I think you're also misunderstanding what I'm saying... I'm kind of referencing the platonic jealousy Miðgarðsormr brought up, which is an interesting sentiment that I've never really thought too deeply about, even though I'm aware of it; and extrapolating it a bit to the 3 office workers in the way his family viewed them; and also separately referencing the more primal polygnynous jealousy a lot of people express on a different level and sort of musing on the origins of those feelings... I probably didn't do a good job in expressing those two concepts as separate, even though I subscribe to a Freudian view of the psychological nature of attraction and brain development (in the evolutionary biological sense of the brain extrapolating those processes in the evolution of the prolonged neotenic state of homo sapiens, not the facile, puerile way it's used in pop culture) but then that gets into a long discussion and I just wanted to make my point as quickly as possible...
You understand the -andry and -gyny suffixes! :love:

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.
I do like the incest games BTW but all the people who scream about cucking stuff also prevent stuff like MM group sex + incest games which I also like from being more popular lol... And then when people who make that content stop making it even though there's an audience for it that really grinds my gears... but that's neither here nor there in in this thread.
I only know personally of one incestuous family. The family of a friend of a partner's friend. The kids were very close in age, and when they were young and curious, they mutually experimented. The mother decided not to stigmatize it and it's just something they did when they were younger. It did not get in the way of finding partners later in life. No apparent PTSD about it. I think because there was no power dynamics, the biggest individual danger. That's one thing NR is working hard to avoid--the father/patron is not trying to use his status to corrupt/break the girls.

I've never had incestual thoughts about my mother, or daughter (a little for a step cousin who'd been added to the family in our teens). To me, the incest plotlines are just a way to increase tension and move the story along. I've long felt that the step-incest trend in modern porn is more about how to skimp on sets and story--you don't have to explain why so much of the story takes place in a single house, or deal with getting the people to know each other. That said, LoML seems to break away from the usual fare, in that the characters actually have a back story and they aren't rushing to bed as a shortcut.

Since I've never actually had a FMF threesome with me in the center, I like to fantasize about those, but since my common experiences have been MFM with my partner in the center, I wouldn't mind them for a bit of familiar reality.
 

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The look of the characters in this game was a major turnoff, but I was bored so I gave this game a try... and wow, was it great (feels and faps galore)! :)
Coming from a Mediterranean/Latino/Native American background, I found the look of the sisters to be nicely refreshing. It was a major factor to my looking into the game.
 

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Quite the discussion here regarding potential jealousy of siblings with their SO's, growing up an only child those concepts are completely foreign to me, kinda why bro/sis games don't really do much for me lol.

I think the vast majority of gamers that steer toward the incest genre tend to enjoy it due to the taboo, storytelling elements, and some other subconscious factors that don't point to blatantly wanting it in reality. As I touched on an earlier page, personally I like them cause it's an indulgence and coping mechanism for my own personal circumstances on familial issues. Being adopted, I'm not blood related to my family, but I still embrace as if they were blood, having no such desires for them(except innocent crush on older cousin when I was younger lol). This has made me even more consciously protective of familial bonds, cherishing the healthy ones and trying my best to keep family together. Therefore, incest games tap into my ideal desire for an unbreakable family bond, lovers and friends may disappear, but family will always be there.

Regarding the whole MFM controversy, I see no issue with it so long as it's consensual and doesn't have humiliation elements. Then again, I'm a weirdo who kinda wishes there were more incest games with MFM or MMFF, I dislike how many games depict fathers and sons as rival competition rather than partners in crime. It tends to mesh well with the "strengthen family bond" message I wrote above, except it would be exemplified by a father and son fist bumping as they share LI's :ROFLMAO:.

Edit: Also can't wait for the next update, the progress picture gives me hope!
 

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Regarding the whole MFM controversy, I see no issue with it so long as it's consensual and doesn't have humiliation elements. Then again, I'm a weirdo who kinda wishes there were more incest games with MFM or MMFF, I dislike how many games depict fathers and sons as rival competition rather than partners in crime. It tends to mesh well with the "strengthen family bond" message I wrote above, except it would be exemplified by a father and son fist bumping as they share LI's :ROFLMAO:.
That suddenly made me think of a porn scene, from back in the days when Ron Jeremy was young just a tiny bit pudgie and tended to play shy, nerdy, comic characters. The scene was a father and son who shared a woman (Vanessa del Rio).
 
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