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XPanda

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So I see the servers are overheating, in my optimism I am thinking, "Oh NR put out the new release." What else could it be, right? instead I see posts about a progressive tax system. Do you see what you have done to us NR? Bears, trebuchets, and now taxes.

This is nuking futz. At least we got a clear promise out of you that the update would be out in 7 days or less. That is the conclusion I am choosing to come to from your statements.
 

naughtyroad

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So I see the servers are overheating, in my optimism I am thinking, "Oh NR put out the new release." What else could it be, right? instead I see posts about a progressive tax system. Do you see what you have done to us NR? Bears, trebuchets, and now taxes. Do you see what you are doing to us? This is nuking futz. At least we got a clear promise out of you that the update would be out in 7 days or less. That is the conclusion I am choosing to come to from your statements.
Heh, IKR? Actually I needed a little break because I was editing gallery entries for the last hour or two and those are seriously mindnumbing. Thought I'd drop by here for a minute for a little relaxed banter. Oh well, I guess I should have known better.
 

XPanda

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Heh, IKR? Actually I needed a little break because I was editing gallery entries for the last hour or two and those are seriously mindnumbing. Thought I'd drop by here for a minute for a little relaxed banter. Oh well, I guess I should have known better.
Don't stress be happy. The last thing we need is you getting sour on the project. I think I might give up AVN altogether if you abandon due to burn out.
 
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Whiteleaf Studio

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It's always funny to me when people accuse devs of "milking" games...Like, you know that all the support you give (if any) is voluntary, right? You can just choose not to pay a damn at any moment in time. The game is free, after all.

It would be another thing if this was a paid game, like it was on Steam or something...But Patreon is mostly a tip jar, not a place to sell products.
 

Bill_Buttlicker

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It's always funny to me when people accuse devs of "milking" games...Like, you know that all the support you give (if any) is voluntary, right? You can just choose not to pay a damn at any moment in time. The game is free, after all.

It would be another thing if this was a paid game, like it was on Steam or something...But Patreon is mostly a tip jar, not a place to sell products.
I suspect those people who constantly complain about "milking" are really just jealous. Probably also desperate for attention.
 

naughtyroad

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Does that say 2525 hours of work on this update (since January)? That's like 250+ hours each month - on top of NR's full-time job?! That's 8+ hour days, on average, every day of the week if NR took no days off - just on this update.

Damn!
Well, the other job isn't exactly a full-time job, it's 32 hrs a week, which leaves me on something like 12 to 13 working hours for LomL on the weekends and one workday that's left, and 4 to 5 hours on the evenings of the working days, so it's not exactly 16 hr. working days. :D
Throw in some vacation time from that other job (since there's nowhere to go with the current situation, might as well spend that doing what I love, and NL vacation times are pretty generous) and you should end up somewhere near that number. :coffee:
 

dark_mark

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It's always funny to me when people accuse devs of "milking" games...Like, you know that all the support you give (if any) is voluntary, right? You can just choose not to pay a damn at any moment in time. The game is free, after all.

It would be another thing if this was a paid game, like it was on Steam or something...But Patreon is mostly a tip jar, not a place to sell products.
Too true, in all honesty there is no such thing as milking since patrons have the ability to pull their pledge at any time. Those that accuse a dev of milking usually have no skin in the game.
 
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