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Wonko_the_Sane*

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Are you sure about other scenes? I ask because when i said that this game needs a walkthrough the DEV reply that all the answers have the same result and you do not miss anything...
The scenes themselves don't change, but the dialogue within them is affected by choices made earlier. Sometimes much earlier.
So the scene looks the same, but it doesn't read the same.
 

Dremel

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The scenes themselves don't change, but the dialogue within them is affected by choices made earlier. Sometimes much earlier.
So the scene looks the same, but it doesn't read the same.
Which makes a hell of a difference under the right circumstances/choices. But doesn't require a walkthrough to not miss out. Meaning you replay the game because you want to, not because you need to. And I've replayed LomL a lot.

Also there are no bad choices. There is never a moment where the game goes "hot babe in chapter 10 wants to sex you but you clicked on "I like Penguins' instead of 'I like Turtles' in the intro so go fuck yourself you loser" without explicitly warning you what content you are being locked out of.

Penguins > turtles btw.
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Which makes a hell of a difference under the right circumstances/choices. But doesn't require a walkthrough to not miss out. Meaning you replay the game because you want to, not because you need to. And I've replayed LomL a lot.

Also there are no bad choices. There is never a moment where the game goes "hot babe in chapter 10 wants to sex you but you clicked on "I like Penguins' instead of 'I like Turtles' in the intro so go fuck yourself you loser" without explicitly warning you what content you are being locked out of.

Penguins > turtles btw.
Don't you miss out on scenes if Denise and Macy's anxiety and anger, respectively, are too high? Or have I misunderstood this whole time?
 

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Don't you miss out on scenes if Denise and Macy's anxiety and anger, respectively, are too high? Or have I misunderstood this whole time?
It has always been my understanding that whether a scene occurs comes from the explicit choices made by the player for the MC (i.e. deciding not to pursue Denise and Macy by turning one or the other or both away at some point); the levels of love, anxiety, and anger are the sage, rosemary, and thyme add spice to the current storyline and may determine alternate endings once they are written.
 

naughtyroad

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Don't you miss out on scenes if Denise and Macy's anxiety and anger, respectively, are too high? Or have I misunderstood this whole time?
Not on explicit content. But with low love, you might find for instance Denise won't open up to you as much on certain subjects in conversations, and won't be as playful with you, or Macy will be even more guarded, and it plays out in other ways too. Explained in more detail (or of those that aren't fans of patreon).
 

Count Morado

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Not on explicit content. But with low love, you might find for instance Denise won't open up to you as much on certain subjects in conversations, and won't be as playful with you, or Macy will be even more guarded, and it plays out in other ways too. Explained in more detail (or of those that aren't fans of patreon).
And that chart in the link(s) is why I give people grief on here when they ask for a "full save" - sure, the save may offer all the lewd bits, but look how the different choices made will affect dialogues and transitions into and out of those bits - as well as personal experiences if you continue using someone else's save. And if all you want to see is the gallery, answer 3 questions at the start of a new playthrough to say you just want to gawk and not read.
 

A.K.A87

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my favorite game atm, im a little disappointed about the next update, if the progression pictures is true, for me there is to much scene with the 3 crazy ugly friends and not so much about the 2 goddess sisters
Uhhhhh... it is even stated on the progress chart...... The face is random (not related to that scene)


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Hehe,, i really should learn to type faster if i want to be first :LOL:;)
 
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Honestly i don't really know what to do now. I've never encountered a situation where i've like a game so much i'm just thinking about it all the time. And the worst part is that there is nothing on this site that i know of that is even close to the kind of experience i had with LOML. I tried out a couple of the more popular games on this site but it just feels so... well... amateur compared to this (No disrespect towards any of the creators here, but this is really really special). I don't really want to replay the game too many times, I don't ever want to be sick of this game.

It's a odd feeling.
 

A.K.A87

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Honestly i don't really know what to do now. I've never encountered a situation where i've like a game so much i'm just thinking about it all the time. And the worst part is that there is nothing on this site that i know of that is even close to the kind of experience i had with LOML. I tried out a couple of the more popular games on this site but it just feels so... well... amateur compared to this (No disrespect towards any of the creators here, but this is really really special). I don't really want to replay the game too many times, I don't ever want to be sick of this game.

It's a odd feeling.
I know what you mean.
I think the best way to explain it to people is that most of the devs make these stories because they want to. Then there are the ones like Naughty that just have to. It is the difference between a guy that just makes one and a Artist that has to.

Storytelling in itself is a Art. Making everything come together in a vn (images, animations and so on) is on another level.
So...
Naughty is a double Artist in my book.
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Not on explicit content. But with low love, you might find for instance Denise won't open up to you as much on certain subjects in conversations, and won't be as playful with you, or Macy will be even more guarded, and it plays out in other ways too. Explained in more detail (or of those that aren't fans of patreon).
It has always been my understanding that whether a scene occurs comes from the explicit choices made by the player for the MC (i.e. deciding not to pursue Denise and Macy by turning one or the other or both away at some point); the levels of love, anxiety, and anger are the sage, rosemary, and thyme add spice to the current storyline and may determine alternate endings once they are written.
Ahhh, thx so much you two! So, just for final clarification, it's possible to be as much of an asshole as I want to the sisters or crones (bar choosing to end it with them) as I want while still remaining on their paths and getting all the sex scenes (which just play out differently)? You're basically just constantly making up with everyone? Because if that's the case, I played this game slightly different than how I wanted to because I thought it'd have consequences and I'd miss out :( I mean, this just justifies another playthrough even more I guess, but damn, wish I would've known beforehand, doh! I still very much enjoyed my current playthrough, btw, that's how good the writing and scenes are, so no sweat! :love: I also didn't realize this when I reviewed your game the first time, so I will definitely go and update it when I get a chance, sorry about that
 

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(...) So, just for final clarification, it's possible to be as much of an asshole as I want to the sisters or crones (bar choosing to end it with them) as I want while still remaining on their paths and getting all the sex scenes (which just play out differently)? You're basically just constantly making up with everyone? (...)
Well, not all the time tbh, so going for a low love path for M+D will usually mean conversations don't go as deep and some of the nicer bonding moments are lost (but not lewds), and for the coven, acting like an asshole will eventually land you on their shitlist and they wash their hands of you.

But conversation choices weren't designed with the idea that saying whatever the other side wants to hear is the "best choice" and earns you lewd coins. They were written with the idea that you could voice your MC and have the other side react to that, and sometimes a little reluctance or disagreement isn't a bad thing, and earns you some respect or appreciation, or a funny bit of dialog. And even for choices that actually lose you love points, new points come often enough that if you feel a particular choice is what you prefer, you can easily stand the loss of a point.

My personal favorite path through the game is not so much "asshole MC" insofar as the game really allows for that (I have a hard time with VNs with douche MCs, and I can't really stomach writing one), but "reluctant MC", which means Denise starts doing even more of the legwork in conversations, convincing the MC that, "yes, trust me, this is a really good idea and you should totally let me."
 

Gerardo Nardo

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Well, not all the time tbh, so going for a low love path for M+D will usually mean conversations don't go as deep and some of the nicer bonding moments are lost (but not lewds), and for the coven, acting like an asshole will eventually land you on their shitlist and they wash their hands of you.

But conversation choices weren't designed with the idea that saying whatever the other side wants to hear is the "best choice" and earns you lewd coins. They were written with the idea that you could voice your MC and have the other side react to that, and sometimes a little reluctance or disagreement isn't a bad thing, and earns you some respect or appreciation, or a funny bit of dialog. And even for choices that actually lose you love points, new points come often enough that if you feel a particular choice is what you prefer, you can easily stand the loss of a point.

My personal favorite path through the game is not so much "asshole MC" insofar as the game really allows for that (I have a hard time with VNs with douche MCs, and I can't really stomach writing one), but "reluctant MC", which means Denise starts doing even more of the legwork in conversations, convincing the MC that, "yes, trust me, this is a really good idea and you should totally let me."
you are a fraking Genius, and dont let any one tell you different...got it?

Cool.

really good Cabronazo. :)
 
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