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whoabacha

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Because surrounding one self with yesmen and people who ardantly defend you doesn't help one creativity or development of progress. Sure, it's a nice thing to have, within moderation, yet having critic about the lack of content/updates/story/characters actually can, in some/rare as fucking occations, motivate a dev to get their ass in gear. Granted, with certain devs however, as we all know some around theses parts, thats not the case.

Me personally? Been a year plus since I last played, expected the updates to get shorter, maybe down to a reasonable 6-8 months. Apparently that ain't the case, hence why I, and many others it seems, have a completely valid issue with it. Hence why you have people making the claim of milking with Road, among other certain Devs. Whether warranted or not, devs are gonna get critisism on just about everything no matter what they say or do to explain things. It's the nature of the beast.
This is one of the most self-entitled posts I have ever read. How you can have the attitude that any of these devs owe you anything at all is incredible and baffling to me, exactly who do you think you are ffs? Does someone force you to come here and play all these games for free, so you can jerk off? Do you think someone owes you a free nut? If you maybe had something practical to offer to devs to help speed up the process, maybe then I could understand, but it's all just bitching for the sake of bitching, and you literally add nothing but negativity to the thread. You sound like a typical incel.
 

naughtyroad

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It's been a while since I picked one of these apart. Lot's of fun things to unpack here.

Because surrounding one self with yesmen and people who ardantly defend you doesn't help one creativity or development of progress. (...)
Let's take this after the next one.

(...)Sure, it's a nice thing to have, within moderation, yet having critic about the lack of content/updates/story/characters actually can, in some/rare as fucking occations, motivate a dev to get their ass in gear. Granted, with certain devs however, as we all know some around theses parts, thats not the case.(...)
True. There's always a risk of procrastination, dawdling, or digging a bigger hole for yourself in a big project like this, even for the most professional of devs. That's why the powers of development created sprints, and that's why I put out a weekly progress update, with all the planned scenes blocked out in an infographic, slowly closing up one at a time. Besides keeping fans informed, it helps instill a good feeling of urgency to complete during the entire development arch, because it's me having to answer for what I've been up to all week to all of you. You bet I'll be looking at that thing nervously every Wednesday, pushing to complete just as much as I can, and it works a treat.

Since starting development on LomL, I've been basically doing 80 hrs of work a week on both jobs I have (LomL and a second one, with LomL taking most of my time). The remark about devs needing to get their asses in gear would be both insultingly patronizing and grade A gaslighting, but let's assume this is not directed at me but at these hypothetical other devs I keep hearing about.

So, coming back to the first one, ignoring the bit about development progress and looking at the creative part:

Damn right, yes-men would be awful there. But I've never "surrounded" myself with those, and I am very interested in critique of the creative elements. Some really good things came out of that, from things like fonts sizes and colors, transparency of the text box, better designed lighting schemes, to for instance the keyboard shortcuts for menu options.

That last one came from some strong critique about having menu options during the climax of lewd scenes, a deliberate creative choice (but, let's be honest, it does mean one needs to go grab a mouse to click it while one's hand is otherwise occupied). Since it was introduced in LomL, it's a feature that pops up on quite a few games, and I love that; I didn't check if they ripped my code (which they're quite welcome to) or just implemented it themselves (it's not hard to do), but arguably that critique didn't just make LomL better in a small but significant way, but VNs in general.

(...)Me personally? Been a year plus since I last played, expected the updates to get shorter, maybe down to a reasonable 6-8 months. Apparently that ain't the case, hence why I, and many others it seems, have a completely valid issue with it.(...)
Issues, yeah. Valid, well that gave me a good chuckle, cheers. :coffee:

Any expectations here come entirely from your side; all I'm seeing when I read that is "I have made a weird assumption, and I blame someone else for that".

You and I never entered into any contract where I agreed to keep content in the game limited to what could be developed in a specific time frame and deliver it to you as per your outlined limitations, and if fact it's fudge-all of your or anyone's business what amount of content I put in any chapter of LomL.

The fact is, I'm not thinking about the next release, I'm thinking about what this chapter and in the end, this game will be when it's complete, and all this nervous hopping around whinging about milking will mean jack-all. Patrons and supporters get to vote on it with their feet, and quite a few do actually, and I'm sure I miss a lot of business that way. But if that doesn't dissuade me, better believe some rando on a forum having issues won't either. :ROFLMAO:

(...)Hence why you have people making the claim of milking with Road, among other certain Devs. Whether warranted or not, devs are gonna get critisism on just about everything no matter what they say or do to explain things. It's the nature of the beast.
Hmm, this takes a bit of unpeeling. So you're saying that criticism being right or wrong is irrelevant. It'll always be there so countering it with informed arguments is a waste of time. :unsure: Is this a really circuitous ways of saying "this my 'pinion bro, don't bother me with facts."?

I dunno, I personally really love it when someone comes around and sets me straight on one subject or another, and eliminates a stupid opinion from my head. I figure they just spared me an embarrassing moment making an ass of myself somewhere down the line, so kudo's to all of you who do set me and others straight, for taking the time. :love:
 

UnfinishedSentenc

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It is, to me, sadder than it is funny: "I have arbitrarily decided that the ideal release cadence for all games is 6 months and anyone that doesn't accept my gratuitous assertion is a fanboi".

If only we had heros like this helping us to wring HalfLife 3 out of Valve. Oh well...
Well said. I was thinking about HalfLife 3, or it's non-existence, just the other day!
 
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The one advantage of a very long waiting period between releases is that you can replay the game from the start again. I have so far never done this for any VN game, but will probably do that for this game when the update releases.
This is the only VN game where I was initially put off by the models, but tried it anyway because of the rave reviews. And boy, do I agree with them. This game is definitely standing apart from 99% of the other VN games out there.
 

Dremel

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I ponder of something great.
My mind will fill and then deflate.
They fill with Denise, exhale Macy.
I know it's both, my desire today.

I have these thoughts so often, I ought.
To replace this thot with what I once got.
'Cause somebody hit their mom in a crash.
And now I just mourn in silence.

Sometimes Macy is violent.
I find it hard to hide it, my lust is no longer inside.
It's on my sleeve, my skin will scream.
Reminding me of who I loved inside my dream.
I hate this road that I'm travelling, there's no transcendance for me.
I'm forced to deal with what I feel.
There is no distraction to mask what is real.
I could pull the steering wheel.

I have these thoughts so often, I ought.
To replace this thot with what I once got.
'Cause somebody hit their mom in a crash.
And now I just mourn in silence.

I ponder of something terrifying.
'Cause this time there's no dream to hide behind.
I find over the course of our familiar attraction.
One thing consists of consistence.
And it's that I always battle ghosts.
Oh dear, I don't know if I know why I'm here.
Oh my, too deep, please stop thinking.
I liked it better when my daughter took force.

There are things we can do
But from the things that work there's only them two
And from the two that I choose to do
The three of us will win and the rest will lose
And there's us and there's a norm
We need to pick one please because
Norm is to be awake and to be awake is for us to think
And for us to think is to be alive
And we'll try with every rhyme
To come across like I am dying
To let them know I need to try to think

I have these thoughts so often, I ought.
To replace this thot with what I once got.
'Cause somebody hit their mom in a crash.
And now I just mourn in silence.

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And now I just mourn in silence.
And now I just mourn in silence.
And now I just mourn.
And now I just mourn in silence.
And now I just mourn in silence.
And now I just mourn in silence.
And now I just mourn...

I ponder of something great.
My mind will fill and then deflate.
They fill with Denise, exhale Macy.
I know it's both, my desire today.

I have these thoughts so often, I ought.
To replace this thot with what I once got.
'Cause somebody hit their mom in a crash.
And now I just mourn in silence.
 

jamdan

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This week in two sentences: images for another stage in this big lewd scene all but wrapped up. This week's haul is about 60 more daz scene files prepped and ready to render out, which will yield another 120 images and about half of that in spot renders for alternate states of... parts in those images.
 

Catbat

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I usually just lurk, don't really post much. Just want to put my two cents in the ring.Nearly every porn game takes ages to put out an update and usually they have very little content. The quality also ranges wildly from 1 to 10/10. I would argue that the bell curve leans to 3 or 4/10 updates. Every update Naughtyroad put out has been a 10/10. If this pace creates masterpiece level quality, then it's more than worth the wait. As Aurelius said above, it's worth replaying the game when an update comes out, and enough time lapses between updates that the game isn't stale.
tl;dr
good things come to those who wait
 
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