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Nice to see how far along the chapter 7 progress is getting. 
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Oh hey, captain obvious, thanks. It's not like the last several pages have a few entitled people already whining for an update and being told by a good number of players, including a moderator, to chill and do something while they wait.
Chill and do something while you wait. It will be released when it's ready. Then we all get to play a game provided for free by the developer when it does.
Read the room before googling "how many days since XXXX" and posting the count.
Sometimes on sites like this it feels like people forget what the point of a tag is in the first place: help people feel specific content, give them correct information about content, etc.
If a tag is misleading or incorrect, you're doing the opposite. "But our arbitrary rules!" ... well, then the rules need improvement. It's not like a bot with no judgement is doing the tags.
But, "whatever". It's just one of those things.
A whole lot to unpack there, and I'm convinced it comes from a good place, but like some pointed out, a lot of it isn't really applicable. I've got a long, long career in software projects as well, first doing them, and then running them, and I'm quite aware a lot of the stuff I'm doing with LomL makes absolutely no business sense.
But I'm not running this a business, and besides working more than fulltime on LomL (if doing anything so much fun can be called working) I have a second job that I rely on to pay the bills and provide for my family. So I'm really free in a way no person in this for the business could be, to set goals that focus purely on the creative process, which are the parts that give me joy.
So when I say "if support collapses, it collapses", it's not the defiant cry of a harried captain howling against the wind as his ship slowly disintegrates around him in the storm that threatens to swallow him whole, but rather the assurance that I'll do what I feel will benefit the quality of the game best, regardless of business concerns. Because all of this talk of release dates is only relevant right here and now, but it's completely meaningless the moment this chapter is completed (or at some point in the future, this game). And that end result is what matters to me, not the process.
NGL, that made me snort coffee all over my keyboard.Where does this flood of sensible and reasonable posts suddenly come from ? I had to check the URL in my browser to see if I was still on F95zone...
Cheers to all that responded in support, it's good to know you get where I'm coming from.
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S'pose being a lowlander makes you used to the thought of the polder dams leakingEdited
So when I say "if support collapses, it collapses"
NGL, that made me snort coffee all over my keyboard.
Cheers to all that responded in support, it's good to know you get where I'm coming from.
Well... mkey. If you can afford this luxury of doing what you love for a long time without losing creative/resource steam... that's pretty rare and hard to relate to. I thought the revenue is essential to keep you going and I really REALLY want for you to keep going.A whole lot to unpack there, and I'm convinced it comes from a good place, but like some pointed out, a lot of it isn't really applicable. I've got a long, long career in software projects as well, first doing them, and then running them, and I'm quite aware a lot of the stuff I'm doing with LomL makes absolutely no business sense.
But I'm not running this a business, and besides working more than fulltime on LomL (if doing anything so much fun can be called working) I have a second job that I rely on to pay the bills and provide for my family. So I'm really free in a way no person in this for the business could be, to set goals that focus purely on the creative process, which are the parts that give me joy.
So when I say "if support collapses, it collapses", it's not the defiant cry of a harried captain howling against the wind as his ship slowly disintegrates around him in the storm that threatens to swallow him whole, but rather the assurance that I'll do what I feel will benefit the quality of the game best, regardless of business concerns. Because all of this talk of release dates is only relevant right here and now, but it's completely meaningless the moment this chapter is completed (or at some point in the future, this game). And that end result is what matters to me, not the process.
NGL, that made me snort coffee all over my keyboard.
Cheers to all that responded in support, it's good to know you get where I'm coming from.
I've also done software for decades but in corporate envs, nothing artistic. In my experience business matters are not the only reasons why it's worth keeping in touch with your audience by releasing more often. More than once in my career I found myself putting in a lot of work in some groundbreaking/experimental project for more than a year, only to find out at the end that even though I kept getting good signals along the way from immediate sponsors, the result was no longer received at large with the same enthusiasm as back when the POC/MVP was presented simply because the general focus of attention changed a lot in the mean time. The problem had nothing to do with the quality of my work or the result not being true to the vision, it was timing. I'm telling you it was highly demotivating beyond pecuniary reasons and I think this trap is applicable to many artistic projects too. In the end, all artists want their art to "steal" attention and have a solid audience and when you touch base so rarely it unavoidably increases this risk of disconnect => disappointment. I know there are "mad"/solitary artists/scientists who have no issue working in their "cave" for years, some of them get their names in history books but a vast majority don't. Frankly I don't know too many who do it just for their own pleasure, maybe it's logical that we don't hear much from them.
Anyway, I hope your project is fulfilling for you but also that it gets successful at large while also being ever more pervier and kinkier. I hate vanilla/policed fantasies with a vengeance. I'm out.
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The most funny thing is almost every post whining about the "delay" comes from people who probably dont support the dev :v
You don't write like someone who actually knows what they're talking about, please do let this actually be your final post in this thread.
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I remember my first book release and public reading and how ppl demanded to know when the next chapter would be released.
The book was horrible. The public reading was 25 people and the only 2 who demanded to know if i would continue the story talked in a way that made me realize they didn't read a single word i wrote and just here to get on my nerves.
My creative work was so influenced by those 2 idiots that i produced 10 more books in 3 years writing absolute dogshit and burning myself out and getting fired from the publisher because quote: "What your write and a cow presses out her rear end are basically the same" I was devastated, started working a regular job again and stopped writing for almost 10 years in total before i had the guts to write again.
So to the people who want the update faster, more frequent, more to their liking etc. If you want no game at all keep pushing, demanding and being horribly annoying.
You can have 100 people supporting you and all it needs is 1 dick who hits you on a bad day with the right words to make you feel utterly worthless or that your work is complete garbage to send you on a downward spiral.
If you can't wait do something else. If you don't want to wait, do something else. And if you really really have to say anything say something nice or nothing at all.
Cause quite frankly after years in this thread it starts to piss me off how people who don't pay a penny to anyone demand shit like they own the damn place. Neither naughtyroad nor any other dev owes you guys shit. F95 doesn't owe you shit. And no F95 Mods also don't owe you guys shit either. In short. No on here owes you guys anything. Be it updates, explanations or deadlines.
You get your free games to wank off to in a matter of a few mouse clicks and there are hundreds if not thousands of games on this board. So leave this artistic peace of joy the fuck alone and troll and annoy someone else. Your parents for a change as i honestly believe alot of teenagers are on this board who never saw a naked girl in their lifetime aside from a phone screen.
We repeated these freaking conversations for years now. Either learn to fucking read or fuck off.
The book was horrible. The public reading was 25 people and the only 2 who demanded to know if i would continue the story talked in a way that made me realize they didn't read a single word i wrote and just here to get on my nerves.
My creative work was so influenced by those 2 idiots that i produced 10 more books in 3 years writing absolute dogshit and burning myself out and getting fired from the publisher because quote: "What your write and a cow presses out her rear end are basically the same" I was devastated, started working a regular job again and stopped writing for almost 10 years in total before i had the guts to write again.
So to the people who want the update faster, more frequent, more to their liking etc. If you want no game at all keep pushing, demanding and being horribly annoying.
You can have 100 people supporting you and all it needs is 1 dick who hits you on a bad day with the right words to make you feel utterly worthless or that your work is complete garbage to send you on a downward spiral.
If you can't wait do something else. If you don't want to wait, do something else. And if you really really have to say anything say something nice or nothing at all.
Cause quite frankly after years in this thread it starts to piss me off how people who don't pay a penny to anyone demand shit like they own the damn place. Neither naughtyroad nor any other dev owes you guys shit. F95 doesn't owe you shit. And no F95 Mods also don't owe you guys shit either. In short. No on here owes you guys anything. Be it updates, explanations or deadlines.
You get your free games to wank off to in a matter of a few mouse clicks and there are hundreds if not thousands of games on this board. So leave this artistic peace of joy the fuck alone and troll and annoy someone else. Your parents for a change as i honestly believe alot of teenagers are on this board who never saw a naked girl in their lifetime aside from a phone screen.
We repeated these freaking conversations for years now. Either learn to fucking read or fuck off.
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What were your books about?
I'm sorry if I arouse any feelings with my question
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You took the time to work it out in days? Dude...
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What's the point in whining about update releases. Either go do something else or join in on the trebuchet and bear poetry like the rest of the lunatics.
Anyway long time no see everyone. Looking forward to be playing 3 updates at once the next one releases. It's going to be great!
Anyway long time no see everyone. Looking forward to be playing 3 updates at once the next one releases. It's going to be great!
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No problem it was decades ago. I tried to write crime novels. Turns out fantasy stuff was the way to go
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TheNo problem it was decades ago. I tried to write crime novels. Turns out fantasy stuff was the way to go
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I'll buy THAT for a dollar.
No, no I won't. I'm a cheap ass bastard, I'll take it for free and
So is it safe to say that fantasy is officially better than crime novels?No problem it was decades ago. I tried to write crime novels. Turns out fantasy stuff was the way to go
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Or landlady? Before she's "enlightened" with patch...
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Here we go again. From bear aerodynamics, through advanced theological discussion and now high literature.