Dragon59

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Even this is misinterpreted in modern religious circles to mean that masturbation is bad, that's not what's happening here.
Thank you Dr. Kellogg (and others) for giving us a world (well, a country) where baby boys were routinely circumcised in order to prevent excessive masturbation (which they felt lead to insanity). I think of it as confusion over cause and effect. I imagine that given the nature of mental institutions, I mean insane asylums at the time, many of the neglected inmates probably played with themselves to provide some stimulus in their lives. 19th Century doctors see this and BAM! Masturbation causes insanity!
As you said, it was about not giving his brother heirs, his 'sin' wasn't spilling the seed, it was the context around that spilling of seed.

His 'sin' was greed (because if his brother had no heirs, he stood to inherit his brother's possesions).
Which brings us back to the sins of Sodom.
Anyway, that's why I usually include giving the brother an heir. I don't usually follow up with "and depriving himself of an inheritance."

Can you imagine modern preachers of "prosperity doctrine," with all their cars, planes, and mansions, actually preaching these accurate messages against greed?
 
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Yeah, much like how they don't want to mention where Cain's wife came from. The Bible can be a naughty place at times.
I have a neo-pagan friend (Oberon Zell-Ravenheart) who wrote and essay called We Are The Other People, arguing for a general creation of Man and Woman at the same time by Elohim (Gods, plural), then a special creation by YHWH in the garden. As such, only those linked to YHWH's special creation need be concerned with "Original Sin." Someone even made a "Chick Tract" version of the story.
 

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I have a neo-pagan friend (Oberon Zell-Ravenheart) who wrote and essay called We Are The Other People, arguing for a general creation of Man and Woman at the same time by Elohim (Gods, plural), then a special creation by YHWH in the garden. As such, only those linked to YHWH's special creation need be concerned with "Original Sin." Someone even made a "Chick Tract" version of the story.
Of course, their plural gods go before YHVH...
People. People never change.
 

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today I forgot to turn off the speakers and heard the sound track...
very well chosen Latin American tunes. Kudos to the author for great taste.
very often the music in VN makes it difficult to read the text. distracts. In this VN, music does not interfere.
a rare combination of story, video and music. If I were a film critic and this would be a movie, then I would probably put 4+ out of 5 possible. half the point was "WASTED"* on minor mistakes when character1 says the words of character2 (mistakes in dialogue).
well, well, let it be not 4+ but 5-.

*(c) GTA
 

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(...)half the point was "WASTED"* on minor mistakes when character1 says the words of character2 (mistakes in dialogue).(...)
Oh, do please report those. Typos and other similar mistakes never run out it seems. There's a #bugs-and-issues channel on my discord if you don't want to clutter up the thread here.
 

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Of course, their plural gods go before YHVH...
People. People never change.
Whose plural gods? The Israelites? They were pluralistic before the Babylonian Exile. He was talking about the two conflicting accounts of creation in Genesis. The first is man and woman created at the same time, the second is man created then woman from a rib. With the order of animals and such in different orders.
 
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judging by the absence of the "harem" tag, I have to choose between daughters and office acquaintances, right? Or do daughters remain outside the brackets and are always present in any capacity, even if incest relations have been established with them? that is, coexistence in the arms of the MC is possible up to three women? that is, one of the office acquaintances, probably most likely Brooks, and daughters. did I understand everything correctly? or is it completely wrong? I hope my questions don't sound like a disguised request for spoilers.
 

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judging by the absence of the "harem" tag, I have to choose between daughters and office acquaintances, right? Or do daughters remain outside the brackets and are always present in any capacity, even if incest relations have been established with them? that is, coexistence in the arms of the MC is possible up to three women? that is, one of the office acquaintances, probably most likely Brooks, and daughters. did I understand everything correctly? or is it completely wrong? I hope my questions don't sound like a disguised request for spoilers.
There are no mutually exclusive route, the tenent also comme as a package deal. You can't date one and not the other. You can have fun with everyone or no one if you wish. The dinamic between the characters however, is different than a traditional harem game. I encourage you to play the game however you want. Just have fun with as litel or has many people has you want.
 

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judging by the absence of the "harem" tag, I have to choose between daughters and office acquaintances, right? Or do daughters remain outside the brackets and are always present in any capacity, even if incest relations have been established with them? that is, coexistence in the arms of the MC is possible up to three women? that is, one of the office acquaintances, probably most likely Brooks, and daughters. did I understand everything correctly? or is it completely wrong? I hope my questions don't sound like a disguised request for spoilers.
What Knight_of_the_lance said - also, from the OP:
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The 'exception' is with Denise and Macy in that you cannot choose one over the other. They go together like rama lama lama ka dinga da dinga dong.
 
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