Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Shadad]

Is there a way to disable males trying to put your pee pee in their anus? It's a huge turn off for me. I tried messing around with the settings, fetishes and other stuff, but nothing.

 

[Fizel]

Is there a way to disable males trying to put your pee pee in their anus? It's a huge turn off for me. I tried messing around with the settings, fetishes and other stuff, but nothing.

Content options. Sex & Fetishes. Scroll down till you find Anal Content. That should disable 100% of it.

 

[Tad Cooper]

I guess implying that penises are exclusively dominant genitalia offended someone, somewhere.

Oh hey. It's me. I am that person. That shit is fucking stupid. Of course, I also find the idea that every sexual interaction involves a dominant and submissive partner to be stupid. God forbid people just bang without mind games.

I blame Fenoxo. The ancient Romans too, I guess, but mostly Fenoxo. Both on general principle (seriously, fuck that guy) and because I'm fairly certain CoC popularized the idea of "penetrated=sub/penetrating=dom" as a convenient/lazy shortcut to adding another kink in the H-game development community.

 

[Duarchy]

So what's the story with the feral stuff now? there's toggle. but I can't for the life of me figure out how to maake, transform a feral.

 

[Fizel]

So what's the story with the feral stuff now? there's toggle. but I can't for the life of me figure out how to maake, transform a feral.

So what exactly are you trying to figure out?

 

[tehlemon]

5 weeks. This is how long Innoxia claims to have been at work on 0.4.2.5. 5 whole weeks.

Two of the largest contributions to this update were from modders. Two others were for tags that will likely not see anything being filed underneath them in 2022. Several placeholders were only partially fleshed out with... less useless placeholders. Two race groups were also added, and I am in disbelief that these were not originally created by another modder originally. One piece of equipment was also added. Everything else had to do with bugfixes or fixing questionable decisions regarding content made years prior.

For once, I have nothing witting or snide to say here about this... whatever this is. Can we even call this an update? Seriously, what is this? I'm at a complete loss for words.

Five weeks to add a shopping district... Yeah, this is barely an update.

I think her problem is most likely that she is a serial procrastinator, and i've got a lot of sympathy (rapidly dwindling sympathy) for her there cuz i'm the same. In college I would always put off papers and projects till the last minute, then stay up all night and get it finished hours before they where due. If I didn't have a ticking clock looming over my head I couldn't/wouldn't get the work done, I think Innoxia is the same way.
Except unfortunately she is able to reset the clock at her own leisure, since she's the boss. So she sets her deadline for three weeks, tells herself she will work X hours a day on it (like a normal person) but never really does, then gets stressed and worked up over the deadlines. Ultimately ends up with not a lot to show, ends up pushing the deadline back over and over.
Just my 2 bit armchair diagnosis from what i've pieced from her discord and blog.

Her other problem is that she's a liar.

She lies *a lot*.

And lets not get into the manipulative bullshit like the 0.4.0 release.

I wouldn't care nearly as much about how lazy she is if she wasn't also a serial liar.

Oh hey. It's me. I am that person. That shit is fucking stupid. Of course, I also find the idea that every sexual interaction involves a dominant and submissive partner to be stupid. God forbid people just bang without mind games.

I blame Fenoxo. The ancient Romans too, I guess, but mostly Fenoxo. Both on general principle (seriously, fuck that guy) and because I'm fairly certain CoC popularized the idea of "penetrated=sub/penetrating=dom" as a convenient/lazy shortcut to adding another kink in the H-game development community.

Yeah, that is kind of a thing in the industry. I definitely don't think he started it though. That's shits been popular within fetish porn long before even CoC was a thing. Hell, before the move to be far more sex-positive in general, even the fetish community was full of that shit.

In LT's case, I think it's mostly just laziness. The dom/sub setup for sex scenes is obviously just lazy design. And following that trope that basically everyone else is getting away from, even Fenoxo's teams, is just lazy writing.

So what's the story with the feral stuff now? there's toggle. but I can't for the life of me figure out how to maake, transform a feral.

We managed a single *small* story update, and a single *small* relationship quest update in a year. And you're wondering if feral content has been updated?

Nope.

Maybe once modders do that work.

Pretty sure that toggle still does basically nothing.

 

[BryanDanielson]

Welp, it's that time again. Time to see exactly how little Inno's done in this update.

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Let the roasting commence.

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[Shuuiy]

To be fair she did release it as a "preview release" (ignoring the ridiculous delays as there isnt really much of a valid excuse unless she actually says what went wrong) if she releases the full release and there is only a little more content then yeahhhh that's bad. But if she releases the next full release and there a ton more content then i can forgive the clear procrastination.

I'm already fustrated since most of the releases contain content i'm not interested in, That whole dominant submissive thing ticked me a off a bit since i tend to play my bisexual characters more power bottom ish so being forced into a sub role to bang the way i like is a bit annoying lol.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

i don't think that's fair. work ethic doesn't really impact whether you're nice or not

[gestures to the blog's disabled comment section] "only a few days"

And honestly, it does. Laziness doesn't exist in a bubble/vacuum. Someone who lies on the job and constantly fails deadlines with excuses usually has experience with that for other parts of their life. Don't be naive.
Disregard the above. Forgot this was LT community.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

Oh hey. It's me. I am that person. That shit is fucking stupid. Of course, I also find the idea that every sexual interaction involves a dominant and submissive partner to be stupid. God forbid people just bang without mind games.

I blame Fenoxo. The ancient Romans too, I guess, but mostly Fenoxo. Both on general principle (seriously, fuck that guy) and because I'm fairly certain CoC popularized the idea of "penetrated=sub/penetrating=dom" as a convenient/lazy shortcut to adding another kink in the H-game development community.

Get over yourself. It's a porn game. Does everything have to be wokeified?

Raptors are a nice addition; I can finally have proper bird people instead of having to use harpies as a substitute.

"Raptors are proper bird people compared to literal birds" lmao k
But, why didn't you just make your own races?

 

[Duarchy]

Pretty sure that toggle still does basically nothing.

Oh, my favourite type of button, the one that has no consequences.

 

[DietrichGRU]

any species/subspecies you would like to see added to the game?

Angels. And their related quests.
You know, that race which has heavy lore reasons to be present in the game. Basically, the whole introduction part of the story (dominion) is unfinished without them. Currently you only presented the demonic half of the story and being thrown into the realm. Heck, there is literally no goddamn reason not to go demon tf.
But instead we've got what we've got. Horses go neigh, cows go moo, dogs go woof Inno goes sorry. Quality stuff.

 

[tehlemon]

[gestures to the blog's disabled comment section] "only a few days"

And honestly, it does. Laziness doesn't exist in a bubble/vacuum. Someone who lies on the job and constantly fails deadlines with excuses usually has experience with that for other parts of their life. Don't be naive.
Disregard the above. Forgot this was LT community.

I wouldn't have crossed that part out. I like, straight up agree with it lol

Oh, my favourite type of button, the one that has no consequences.

Exactly! Those are the best kind of buttons!

And sometimes they still cause bugs, which is even more fun!

Angels. And their related quests.
You know, that race which has heavy lore reasons to be present in the game. Basically, the whole introduction part of the story (dominion) is unfinished without them. Currently you only presented the demonic half of the story and being thrown into the realm. Heck, there is literally no goddamn reason not to go demon tf.
But instead we've got what we've got. Horses go neigh, cows go moo, dogs go woof Inno goes sorry. Quality stuff.

Oh shit, I forgot that there was Angels involved in the early lore. I completely forgot that character exists lol

 

[BaloneyAmone]

So what's the story with the feral stuff now? there's toggle. but I can't for the life of me figure out how to maake, transform a feral.

As of now, there aren't any transformative items, and you have to crack open your save to make ferals, which is just as easy as setting "feral=yes" for the relevant characters. It's interacting with code where someone shouldn't really have to, sure, but it's not at all arduous.

"Raptors are proper bird people compared to literal birds" lmao k
But, why didn't you just make your own races?

Well, as I said elsewhere, harpies have their own baggage of lore in this game that weighs over them, and plus harpies aren't pure bird, they're more human/bird hybrids. It's just not the same, man
Also, I did make my own bird race a while back, but I somehow scoured the files from existence when I updated the game one time, and I never mentally recovered to the point where I'd consider making them again.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

harpies aren't pure bird, they're more human/bird hybrids. It's just not the same, man

How much bird are we talking? Aren't the trio (Brittany, Diana, and Lexi) plus Helena full-bird? What about demon-bird furies?

I'm just genuinely curious, as a bird-fanatic, about where the line is for someone who thinks those aren't enough. Like, what would it need to be like? What aspects and traits would they have?

 

[BaloneyAmone]

How much bird are we talking? Aren't the trio (Brittany, Diana, and Lexi) plus Helena full-bird? What about demon-bird furies?

I'm just genuinely curious, as a bird-fanatic, about where the line is for someone who thinks those aren't enough. Like, what would it need to be like? What aspects and traits would they have?

First off, they don't have beaks, which is already verboten, but also, they have much more humanoid flesh.

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Furies I'd imagine would more like winged demons with feathers.
Standalone raptors would (most likely) be manifested as anthro birds (specifically birds of prey, whereas harpies are predominantly based on smaller birds like birds of paradise, their feral equivalent, with a couple larger types of avians as sub-species), instead of people with bird features.

 

[Fizel]

How much bird are we talking? Aren't the trio (Brittany, Diana, and Lexi) plus Helena full-bird? What about demon-bird furies?

I'm just genuinely curious, as a bird-fanatic, about where the line is for someone who thinks those aren't enough. Like, what would it need to be like? What aspects and traits would they have?

Harpies can only be 'lesser' so they are still partly human. Raptors will be able to spawn as 'greater' it seems, so actually fully bird not bird-humans.

 

[fudejoranek]

Harpies can only be 'lesser' so they are still partly human. Raptors will be able to spawn as 'greater' it seems, so actually fully bird not bird-humans.

The game still mentions lips instead of a beak, just like with gryphons, who are feral compatible, but I suppose this is just a limitation, as keeping track of that is a pain and would limit most mouth actions.
Edit: The code says that gryphons and raptors have beaks, its just that the game does not check for it in all cases. Maybe Inno will address it soon since the raptor was her idea, while the gryphon is technically a mod that was added to the source code.

Maybe once modders do that work.

They have, we have mods that add feral clothing, ferals to the encounter table and a feral transformative (its just a toggle without transformation text) as well as races that are feral by default. The only thing missing is having characters that were written to be ferals, but the modding support is too shite for something that ambitious.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

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Okay, I see what you're getting at. Most people think of a humanized Greek-variant of harpy when they discuss or refer to the species as a whole. What you seem to want is something more like what you'd see in a scifi movie, if we were to visit a new planet full of avian-like creatures with human-tier sentience.

The game still mentions lips instead of a beak, just like with gryphons, who are feral compatible, but I suppose this is just a limitation, as keeping track of that is a pain and would limit most mouth actions.

I was about to mention this some point. I've personally never seen snouts -- for example -- specifically mentioned anywhere in any descriptions where a character has a dog/fox face, but wasn't sure if anything changed.

 

[fudejoranek]

I checked the source code for you: The game has pretty advanced tracking of muzzles, fangs, beak etc.. However, it is used basically nowhere in the game. Beaks are mentioned in the description when applying a color to it and the game will say "muzzles" instead of "faces" if it tries to say "faces" of a group with only muzzled creatures.