Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]
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This was ""sort of"" implemented into the game.
IIRC dogs get a buff when fighting cats, wolves get a buff against sheep, etc. Not all species have such buffs, only when it makes sort of sense. It's kind of sad that the only thing that really spices the world is a couple of stat changes between the races...
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I just downloaded and extracted it, there both a LilithsThrone_0_4_4.jar and a lt.bat in my folder so I have no idea what you did to your files.
You can download the .jar version from the OP.
I personally can't get it to run, the .bat file doesn't do jack and neither does messing around with the java files. Maybe you'll have better luck.
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The .bat file is a hacky workaround if running the .jar doesn't work on double-click, but Java is otherwise working properly. If the .jar works for you, you can just use that, and you won't need the .bat file; otherwise, running the .bat will make the game run.
Hey weird Question guys, but how do I let my slaves fight and follow me or hell anyone I'm friends with?
The only NPCs that can follow and fight for you are your elementals (exceptionally, other NPCs may follow you as well, temporarily, as part of a quest). The companion system that allowed you to team up with any NPC was deprecated a long time ago but you can still enable it in the game's options if you so choose. Just be aware that doing so is liable to break shit in your game. If bad stuff happens don't expect much in terms of support...
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I'm very sure someone has done this before, but I have a bit of free time rn and got to thinking again about just how much you could theoretically cut out of the race type system if you were cleaning it up. Looking at the furry preferences menu, I'm thinking:
Eleventy million races down to between, what, 18 and 21, depending on whether any of dragon, youko, and harpy really need to be their own thing for reasons of unique cultures and/or major mechanical distinctions that can't be handled by existing mechanics (like making youko NPCs be canines with appropriate part choices and perk points in magic). And it would be open-ended enough to cover a lot of future development; there's no need for a "moose" race to ever exist when you can just add a "moose antler" part to the cervid race and the player can use moose furry art if they want. No more special subtypes to change your race name and stats because your bunny ears hang down instead of standing up or you made your fur white.
As far as demons go, I checked and imps do already have an option to disable their wings (and tail!) so you can indeed make one bald and green and wingless and put goblin art on it if you want a character to be short and weak/low-status and look like that. So "goblins" are already in the game in every way that matters, unless the player can't become an imp by becoming a demon and transforming to be short (don't know, never been a demon).
The only things that would actually still merit special subtype names are, I think, half-demons. Some of the half-demon special names like "hellhound" are kind of cute, and even though they're statistically identical the game does already track which half-demons have access to which species parts so you may as well acknowledge it. Redundant things like having both "hellhound" and "vargr" would be cut down, though.
Anyway, just having fun and thinking out loud for a few minutes, I know for a fact none of this will ever happen and I'll probably never be in a position where I'm seriously working on a game of my own either. But things like LT's furry preference menu would definitely bug me a lot less if someone took a hatchet to it.
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Eleventy million races down to between, what, 18 and 21, depending on whether any of dragon, youko, and harpy really need to be their own thing for reasons of unique cultures and/or major mechanical distinctions that can't be handled by existing mechanics (like making youko NPCs be canines with appropriate part choices and perk points in magic). And it would be open-ended enough to cover a lot of future development; there's no need for a "moose" race to ever exist when you can just add a "moose antler" part to the cervid race and the player can use moose furry art if they want. No more special subtypes to change your race name and stats because your bunny ears hang down instead of standing up or you made your fur white.
As far as demons go, I checked and imps do already have an option to disable their wings (and tail!) so you can indeed make one bald and green and wingless and put goblin art on it if you want a character to be short and weak/low-status and look like that. So "goblins" are already in the game in every way that matters, unless the player can't become an imp by becoming a demon and transforming to be short (don't know, never been a demon).
The only things that would actually still merit special subtype names are, I think, half-demons. Some of the half-demon special names like "hellhound" are kind of cute, and even though they're statistically identical the game does already track which half-demons have access to which species parts so you may as well acknowledge it. Redundant things like having both "hellhound" and "vargr" would be cut down, though.
Anyway, just having fun and thinking out loud for a few minutes, I know for a fact none of this will ever happen and I'll probably never be in a position where I'm seriously working on a game of my own either. But things like LT's furry preference menu would definitely bug me a lot less if someone took a hatchet to it.
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While the number of races is pretty silly, I completely understand why the dev is keeping all of them and even introducing more.
Her main audience are Furries after all, who are known to spend hundreds, if not thousands, on personalized drawings of their fursonas and such. So a system that allows her patrons to create their favorite tiger-fennec-dragon hybrid bullshit will make her a lot more money than a streamlined one that would make for better gameplay.
I would be completely fine with this. To make hybridization easier, I feel like wings and maybe horns should be considered species-neutral rather than associated with a particular genus. That way you can become a pegasus without the risk of becoming part avian. You have leathery wings (for bats and demons), feathered wings (for birds and angels) and insectoid wings (for bugs).
True, there would definitely need to be some kind of wiggle room like that, I'm about to have to dash out the door so I didn't have more time to doodle anything about it. I think wings and horns being neutral would be a great, simple patch idea, though for the one example I remember mentioning I think calling the part "moose horns" would still be good as a descriptor even if it doesn't literally count towards being a cervid.
And maybe if you mixed together enough non-neutral parts you fall into the catch-all "chimera" (or whatever) so the game has something tidy to refer to you with. I forgot to consider complete patchwork choices.
For those who can't run the game from the .bat file, you need java installed for it to actually work. ( if you start a command prompt and type in "Java", you should get something that isn't "'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command"
I can't seem to get this to run at all I downloaded the Java in the Read Me but maybe that's outdated? Does someone know what the correct Java is?
Edit: defo have Java installed, might need to reset the "open with" thing, anyone know how to do that?
Edit: defo have Java installed, might need to reset the "open with" thing, anyone know how to do that?
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i think my question becomes 'why is everyone trying to run it through a .bat file when a standard .exe exists...i presume?
because i'm playing this from version 4.4.5 - yes, i finally gave in to see if anything new has been added...it hasn't - i genuinely dont get the .bat file issue.
then again, because i like to cheat whenever i can and just want to rush through to see new content, i'm playing on the Lolilith's Throne mod for that sweet sweet exp multiplier, and the only file in it is a .jar executable, so...yeah, i just dont get the .bat file issue
because i'm playing this from version 4.4.5 - yes, i finally gave in to see if anything new has been added...it hasn't - i genuinely dont get the .bat file issue.
then again, because i like to cheat whenever i can and just want to rush through to see new content, i'm playing on the Lolilith's Throne mod for that sweet sweet exp multiplier, and the only file in it is a .jar executable, so...yeah, i just dont get the .bat file issue
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the only way i know is a reinstallation, but that's pretty easy with java thankfully. or you could go into the nifty little setting tab it has and simply reset settings. whatever custom settings you have for it would need to be redone, duh, but it should work. or, if that doesn't work or you dont do it for some reason...hope?
EDIT: i remember there being an issue with Java and LT not liking each other all that much, and the way to fix it would be to either reinstall java, or go back an update or two.
The default Windows download is a jar file accompanied by a bat file, jar files are not by default executable if you don't have java enabled. and if you don't have java enabled the .bat is the only one that is launchable, but the .bat file still needs java installed... so it fails. hence the people complaining about the game not launching where others see no issue.
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The problem I have with all that is that it runs the risk of paring it down too much for a game relying mostly on text. It would probably improve performance and definitely reduce the game's size, which I ordinarily have no problem with, but it comes at the cost of easily IDing what you're looking at. And that's kind of a big deal, 'cause again, game's text-based.
What pops into your head when I say 'avian' versus 'owl-morph'? 'Feline' versus 'tiger'? And if you've got a rodent with a fat ass, you could be looking at a standard capybara or motherfuckin' Biggie Cheese.
Some of them can be condensed or removed, I'll give you that. Rabbits can be cut down, the only difference between the subtypes is the ears. Harpies can be taken down to just harpies because the only appreciable visual difference there is gonna be coloration - unless I missed it, bald eagle harpies don't all have the 'brave' trait. Keeping owls and eagles/hawks as noted raptor sub-species makes sense because there's enough of a difference between the two that you aren't just dragging a few color swatches around.
The only thing that I get from lt.bat is "Printing to error.log". Though I was successful at forcefully opening the winrar file through java and got an error prompt, but the game launched after that. My PC is just weird I guess.