NoStepOnSnek
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Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]
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I was literally coming here to ask that exact question. Ran into a little mini event on the streets of dominion where you spot someone with 2 dicks dping someone in the street then spent like an hour going over every little detail of the enchantment system trying to find a way to add a second one. You can add a second pair of balls, horns, antenna, tails, even arms but I just can not find an option to grow a second dick. Even tried putting two of the penis transformation effects onto a single potion, still nothing. Considering how many crazy fetishes there are in this game you would think that something like having a double dick would be in there as more than just a passing mention.
Eh, I can think of a whole bunch of sex acts that are perfectly possible IRL that aren't in the game. There's definitely room to expand in that direction, but that kind of growth doesn't require adding more towns to play in. I struggle to think of anything that could be added to the game that would actually require other towns. The story requires it, but the story could easily be (re)written to take place in only one city. So I question the wisdom of expanding the game world rather than making the current one more densely populated with content to interact with; the vast majority of tiles in Dominion and Submission are empty and divided into a handful of types that differ only in which species can be randomly encountered in them. I'd love for the current city to get fleshed out more and populated with more interesting characters and locations.
I'm also not sure that I agree with classifying LT as an RPG, at least not primarily. It's first and foremost a sex game, basically interactive text-based porn. It's common for such games to masquerade as other game genres (most famously the many, many versions of strip poker), but it's important for these games not to take that too seriously. Sex games need to be simple and easy enough to be playable one-handed by people who aren't paying attention to the gameplay mechanics. I think LT does this very well also, the combat system in particular is just complex enough to be interesting but still simple enough to enable the player to easily achieve whichever outcome they want. I see no reason to change anything about it.
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Silverstig
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Will there eventually be a way to begin the game as something other than human? (I know the intro involves you in the human world then getting teleported to the one you play in, It could have it transform you into something when you first meet your aunt.)
Double penises are planned as part of the race expansion. I think either snake or dolphin morphs are planned to have two dick by default? I can't remember the exact race, but I know Inno posted that we get double dicks when she implements the specific races that are commonly depicted with having two penises in the furry community.
NoStepOnSnek
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You can always export a morphed character and start a new game as them but fully integrating that into the lore just doesn't have any sort of priority.
Silverstig
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You can begin the game as that morphed character? I thought it was only to make them a slave to purchase in a new game.
NoStepOnSnek
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From the developer's site:
"Lilith's Throne is a text-based erotic RPG, being developed by me, Innoxia. "
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The fact that so many people play the game as a dating/fucking/harem game is both a testament to it's flexibility and a consequence of the lack of progress on the main story.
The debug code still works. It, and a couple other things, can be found in the "readme" txt file in the game folder.
LOL.
You misunderstand why I quoted the dev there. I'm not saying that Inno says LT is an RPG therefore it is (which would be an argument from authority). I'm saying that it is Inno's stated intent to create a " text-based erotic RPG".
It's certainly valid to point out that LT is currently a very flawed RPG by the criteria I previously laid out. That is, there are few meaningful choices to be made so far and those that exist seem to lack the consequences that would be necessary for playing the game to result in a unique (or at least customised) story.
The "story" that currently results from gameplay is really only the prologue to the intended story: setting up that the central conflict is going to be against Lilith and establishing that the MC can approach that conflict as a liberator or a conqueror. And then the main story just stops. As I've pointed out elsewhere, at this point, this game is like a D&D campaign where the DM has set up the premise for the campaign, hooked the players in and then refused to let them out of the damn starting village to do all the things that the NPCs they've met assure them are really, really important.
Again going back to Inno's plan for the game, v1.0 is supposed to be when the main story is complete. But that's not projected to be the end of development. Much like games such as HtiH, the plan is to then add the extra content people like yourself want then, basically indefinitely.
In order to flesh something out, you need a skeleton first.
Which is why your criticism that the map of Dominion is still mostly undefined is so mistaken. That's not a bug, it's a feature. A smart worldbuilder deliberately leaves areas of the map "empty" so they have room to add the stuff they want to add later.
Right now, it's time for Inno to start making her game.
I finally got around to try and change the sexual preference of Scarlett to see if maybe she would like to fuck my male character, but unfortunately after changing her sexual preference as a slave once I give her back to Helena she goes back to only liking girls and I cannot change it. Welp gonna have to give up on that.
So you're not saying "Inno says LT is an RPG, therefore it is", you're saying "Inno says LT is intended to be an RPG, therefore it is"? And you think there's any kind of meaningful distinction between these two statements? LOL.
LOL, I don't think your criteria are valid in the first place. There's plenty of RPGs with linear stories in which the only choice given to the player is where to put their skill points and what gear to use.
LOL. You say that as if those are two different things.
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boloyolo
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Debating whether LT can be classed as a RPG is quite frankly a huge waste of time. If anything, calling it a "sex game" is an even less meaningful tag than calling it a RPG. Like, even within that broad tag there's many kinds of games, is it a H-shoot'emup? ROR sidescroller? Battlefucker?
Matter of fact is, regardless of how you feel about it, LT meets the requirements of being a RPG, being that (a) you assume the role of and act as the playable character in a manner you choose (b) within a reasonably developed fictional setting (c) with a reasonable influence of decision making and character advancement. Dungeons and Dragons, despite being essentially a text-based game (oral in most cases), is the quintessential definition of the tabletop RPG. The criteria Carl0s listed out earlier isn't invalid; a game doesn't have to be a 3d vidyagaem that functions like Skyrim to be called a RPG.
Matter of fact is, regardless of how you feel about it, LT meets the requirements of being a RPG, being that (a) you assume the role of and act as the playable character in a manner you choose (b) within a reasonably developed fictional setting (c) with a reasonable influence of decision making and character advancement. Dungeons and Dragons, despite being essentially a text-based game (oral in most cases), is the quintessential definition of the tabletop RPG. The criteria Carl0s listed out earlier isn't invalid; a game doesn't have to be a 3d vidyagaem that functions like Skyrim to be called a RPG.
And that's not a broad tag? All but the most simplistic games could fit into that definition, even something like Doom. Unless of course you use the weasel word "reasonable" that you've inserted in there to move the goalposts to arbitrarily include or exclude this or that game. That wouldn't happen to be precisely why you've inserted it in there, would it? Hm?
I already explained why his criteria are invalid, and none of it had to do with 3D graphics. Kindly take your straw man and shove it.
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Something tells me at this point you're just arguing for the sake of arguing...
Y'all debating semantics over what defines a game as X or Y... and for what, exactly? First off, who really cares? Secondly, this debate is becoming less and less about trying to reason with each other and more just flexing who has the bigger dick/who is right. I wasn't even part of the conversation and I left with the distinct feeling of annoyance after reading your comments, Sordid. I don't know if you're right or wrong and honestly, I don't care. But your smug and arrogant tone ain't getting anyone on your side...
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Anyway, back on topic. When Inno announced she was going to release more modding templates, I was expecting something a little meatier - like being able to make our own NPCs or, as someone else suggested, write our own sexual scenes. What can people create with item sets (which is basically just an extension to the clothing/weapon templates) and status effects to make it interesting? I'm genuinely curious. Cursed items that give TFs over a period of time instead of immediate effect?
Something tells me at this point you're just arguing for the sake of arguing...
Y'all debating semantics over what defines a game as X or Y... and for what, exactly? First off, who really cares? Secondly, this debate is becoming less and less about trying to reason with each other and more just flexing who has the bigger dick/who is right. I wasn't even part of the conversation and I left with the distinct feeling of annoyance after reading your comments, Sordid. I don't know if you're right or wrong and honestly, I don't care. But your smug and arrogant tone ain't getting anyone on your side...
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Anyway, back on topic. When Inno announced she was going to release more modding templates, I was expecting something a little meatier - like being able to make our own NPCs or, as someone else suggested, write our own sexual scenes. What can people create with item sets (which is basically just an extension to the clothing/weapon templates) and status effects to make it interesting? I'm genuinely curious. Cursed items that give TFs over a period of time instead of immediate effect?
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Are you sure about that? I just tested on 3.8.5, on a generic shop tile, and nothing happened. It's also not in the readme anymore.
However when testing on an old 3.6.4 save, event triggered as expected. After looking through the readmes, looks like it was removed in 3.7.2.
Inno say why? Is it getting added in later as proper content?
NoStepOnSnek
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Officially, all the functions that character was rigged to test are now so widely used and easily accessible elsewhere that it's a bit pointless.
Unofficially ... having a cameo in your own porn game has some issues once your community grows too much.