Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10] [Innoxia]

[jamm_91]

I think I agree with you about ditching the story to focus on the sandbox/slave sim side of things, as I'm not invested all that much in the story to begin with, and only come back for the sandbox side of things too.

The sandbox is probably the biggest seller of the game to me, however i reckon there needs to be a balance - of development - between all of the parts that make the whole. Sandbox is really fun, but even in a perfect state, would need some backbone - ie story - to keep the game some what fresh and to prevent my brain turning into mush with all of the details of the computer generated side.

The story doesnt even need to be good, like it is a porn game after all, but something to either guide the player along and experience the arguably the best parts of the game - in my opinion, the sandbox and the world building. So it really brain fucks me with Innoxia says some shit about the new boss in development is too "boring" or smth like that im too lazy to read the blog shit again. I dont want her serving a weekly portion of slop content or anything, but from her blogs it really seems like she is taking way too much care into the story. This is despite pretty much butchering it after talking to Demon Aunts mommy it that fucking massive lore dump.

I really wish she focused on the little shit, like more stuff like the taverns in Elis, and stuff like the farmers market.

 

[D.K]

So, are you one of her Discord mods or just a paypig?
There are plenty of people recognizing she is human, but anyone above room-temperature IQ can also recognize that the ratio of time spent to game made for LT is utterly fucked. What is your excuse?

'New'? We have over 800 pages, most of which are bitching about Inno's lack of work ethic. Check your fire, you are aiming at friendlies.

Do not give her any more ideas. This would take easily three months in Inno-time.

I get that there are friendlies my apologies for semi-friendly fire, but there are some people that will continue to defend the bullshit or even question anyone who seen past the the thin veil of reality. Like the one you were calling out, and like one of the posts after your's. What my post could've benefitted from saying is that it's not a big surprise that bootlickers will come to the thread and try to justify the attitude and work ethic of a certified liars and scam artists.

You see them in every generation of pirates here, even on ULMF, the thread for Malise and the Machine was filled with the same exact posts, people shitting on the devs (deservedly in cases like Eromancer.) and on the paypigs who haven't seen the reality, and then those same people trying to justify (by telling everyone that they have less than room temperature IQ because they support this sort of thing)

 

[Wolfdragon20]

Release target

v0.4.9 (Public)
September

i'm betting at least november

 

[Draupnir7]

But I do like my text-based Sims slavery simulator, and I wouldn't be unhappy at all if Inno were to announce that there will be no further story updates, and that she will focus fully on the simulation side.

I think I agree with you about ditching the story to focus on the sandbox/slave sim side of things, as I'm not invested all that much in the story to begin with, and only come back for the sandbox side of things too.

I feel like this would be less of a sentiment if she actually worked on the fucking story. Like Jamm said, it does not even have to be good. Which is good news for Inno, if nobody else.

I get that there are friendlies my apologies for semi-friendly fire, but there are some people that will continue to defend the bullshit or even question anyone who seen past the the thin veil of reality. Like the one you were calling out, and like one of the posts after your's.

Yeah, I should have figured. I just got confused because of who you were quoting, so that is on me.

Ultimately, I just want Inno to pull the lead out and to some small degree prove us wrong.
But since I do not see that happening, I will settle for bitching about and shitting on the game while still playing it occasionally.

 

[lostanon]

i'm betting at least november

yeah, of 2024

 

[SheepPun]

On the negativity front as a long time lurker; this is f95zone, it's a not huge beacon of positivity in general.

And like mentioned before in this thread, since places like the official blog and discord generally shun negative criticism towards the game, a lot of people came here to complain and damn sometimes it's fun to complain. (sorry mods who come in here having to cull the thread down every so often, you're doing a great job.)

 

[Lady Luck]

Man, is this shit new to y'all? Have you not seen Redamz or Eromancer or VersusX? Like, there are plenty of developers that just fleece their patrons and deliver absolutely fucking nothing in terms of content in any time span, but I know there's gonna be stupid fuckers in any crowd who will defend this abhorrent ideal.

No, this isn't new to me in the slightest. personally, if I'm subbed to someone and they don't give content I end my sub, but sadly some people sink their heels in on some sunk-cost fallacy. I was just saying that she is even worse than someone else said, who was responding to one of those "stupid fuckers who will defend this abhorent ideal". I was just expounding on the context and indirectly saying that I'll respect her as a person when she respects the people paying her. As I said, the problem isn't that she's not giving content, its that she's not giving content despite still being paid.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

The story doesnt even need to be good, like it is a porn game after all, but something to either guide the player along and experience the arguably the best parts of the game - in my opinion, the sandbox and the world building.

Just building on what she's got would be enough.

MC has to take out each of Lilith's daughters in order to become powerful enough to defeat Lilith herself and conquer or liberate the land.

That's good enough to be working on.

My original reason for even joining this site was to find out what the hell was stopping Inno from just fucking making her fucking game already.

The answer is Inno.

 

[JOSHUAs9]

Game has been functionally in Dev hell for ~3 years.
Coincidently ~3 years ago the Dev proudly announced this game was now profitable enough to be her full time job so quit her other job.
Dev was always weeks late on updates, but ~3 years ago that became months.
Then Dev stopped talking to anyone outside her carefully curated Discord echo chamber.
Then Dev started padding her already anemic updates with fanmods.
All the while claiming stress, negativity, mental health months, fancy vacations, writers block, and code revisions.
Currently her contributions to the updates are ~5 hours of code, ~5 hours of writing.
And has been for years.

Also doesn't help when she goes on month long gaming binges and brags about it in her Discord.

The games progress is currently 1 of 7 chapters and 1st chapter was finished about 5 years ago.


TLDR: She learned she can milk the paypigs.
TLDR: Why is this thread so negative? She bans anyone who negatively comments. This is where they end up. Fluff her ego or get banished to the Shadowrealm.

Holy Shit I didn't think it had been that LONG WTH? I haven't even been following the game for that long LOL

 

[crotugar]

Is there any way to play this game on linux? chmod and wine don't seem to work :/ but then again i dont know much about linux so i might be screwing it up.

 

[ArcMeph]

Is there any way to play this game on linux? chmod and wine don't seem to work :/ but then again i dont know much about linux so i might be screwing it up.

You don't know much about soft generally. LT works on java, what means you don't need a wine to launch LT. All you need is the required version of JRE for you system

 

[jfmherokiller]

You don't know much about soft generally. LT works on java, what means you don't need a wine to launch LT. All you need is the required version of JRE for you system

well you do also need a version of the jre that has javafx

 

[ArcMeph]

well you do also need a version of the jre that has javafx

I last played about a year ago, and then it only required jre. No additional installs, as long as I remember

 

[crotugar]

You don't know much about soft generally. LT works on java, what means you don't need a wine to launch LT. All you need is the required version of JRE for you system

yeah i tried that as well ofcourse, after your comment i double checked if the right version was installed and it is, so i dont know why it aint working for me then

 

[DeltaDuster]

Does anyone know how to get to themyscira?

First, you wait a few years for the Elis to be wrapped up so loosely that the robe is staying in the hallway. Then you wait another year or two for the next main story part to be added, then another couple years after that for the next town to be added (only in the code, in the background, and with no NPC's or anything), then another year or so for stuff to be put in with placeholders, then another two years for the text to be added..

Yes, I just described the same process that Elis went through. And this is being optimistic.

 

[SpikyHair]

what game(s) are you developing?

Had been, though not for some while now. Still like to hear the (horror) stories from the trenches from time to time outside of "official" channels.

"Normie" stuff, I assume you can appreciate the lack of a more detailed disclosure.

 

[ArcMeph]

yeah i tried that as well ofcourse, after your comment i double checked if the right version was installed and it is, so i dont know why it aint working for me then

Well, java apps work the same on any system because they works in java virtual machine. So, problem must me with yours system or maybe you are downloaded the wrong jre

 

[Sarkath]

Is there any way to play this game on linux? chmod and wine don't seem to work :/ but then again i dont know much about linux so i might be screwing it up.

It's possible, but the best way to do so is going to depend on your distro. If you're using a more mainstream distro like Ubuntu or Fedora, grab one of the Java 17 (or 20…shouldn't matter) JRE JFX packages from Azul that match your distro:

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You'll want to download the RPM if you're using a Red Hat based distro (e.g. Fedora or CentOS) or the DEB package if you're using a Debian-based distro (Debian, Ubuntu, etc.). I haven't used a mainstream distro in a while (I use Arch btw…and, uh, sometimes Void) but I think Fedora and Ubuntu let you install packages by just double-clicking on them. Just make sure you remove all other Java (OpenJDK, jre-*, etc) packages first, just to make sure Azul is automatically treated as the default.

I last played about a year ago, and then it only required jre. No additional installs, as long as I remember

LT has always had a JavaFX dependency, so you were most likely either using Oracle JRE (which includes JavaFX) or an OpenJDK distribution that was bundled with OpenJFX. Most OpenJDK distributions don't include it.

If you built it from source, Maven would have pulled down the appropriate packages for you.

 

[NODOGAN]

Has feral content finally been added? is it possible to turn oneself feral/have sex with feral NPCs yet?

 

[Infinatious]

Has feral content finally been added? is it possible to turn oneself feral/have sex with feral NPCs yet?

There's exactly one scene with a feral character and she's only temporarily a feral. There is currently no (in game) way to make your character a feral nor have sex with other ferals beyond that sole character.