Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

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Is there a list somewhere of all the unique traits for NPCs? Not the background job ones like mugging or prostitution, the ones listed below the row of squares, stuff like health fanatic (+25 phys) or dirty-minded (+25 corr, I think) that don't get overwritten when you import into a new save.

I picked the game up again last night and was hunting around for some personality/unique trait combinations and realized I don't even know what all the traits are. Also the traits seem absurdly heavily restricted by race, I don't think I saw a single human with a trait other than dirty-minded or slut. Even imps seem to get more variety.
 
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NajaNaga said:
Is there a list somewhere of all the unique traits for NPCs? Not the background job ones like mugging or prostitution, the ones listed below the row of squares, stuff like health fanatic (+25 phys) or dirty-minded (+25 corr, I think) that don't get overwritten when you import into a new save.

I picked the game up again last night and was hunting around for some personality/unique trait combinations and realized I don't even know what all the traits are. Also the traits seem absurdly heavily restricted by race, I don't think I saw a single human with a trait other than dirty-minded or slut. Even imps seem to get more variety.
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I'm not sure if it's under the "buggy" menu, but I normally just save edit with notepad(++). If I remember correctly the game consider it a perk so try search as "PERK_SLUT" or if that doesn't work then try "_SLUT". If you're looking for a list of unique perks you could try the wikis page for it. I think eight perks, two of them are unique NPC (Meraxis, and Kate)
 
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Plumpunikitty said:
I'm not sure if it's under the "buggy" menu, but I normally just save edit with notepad(++). If I remember correctly the game consider it a perk so try search as "PERK_SLUT" or if that doesn't work then try "_SLUT". If you're looking for a list of unique perks you could try the wikis page for it. I think eight perks, two of them are unique NPC (Meraxis, and Kate)
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Unfortunately the wiki only lists the "job slot" perks that I can see, the ones that get overwritten. But I guess I can just keep checking NPCs as I play around, export any with perks I don't recognize, and then use save editing like you said to copy the perk code over if I want it. Thanks!
 
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PussyPassAnon said:
Lispy goblin alchemist originally(?) seen in CoC. Otherwise, no idea.
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Wait, Inno added in Lumi from CoC just expected no one to notice? LOL, what a dumb bitch
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Unrelated to CoC. Lumi was a character contribution written by Nnxx.

According to the author, Lumi was meant to be a "pure concentration of all things love dovey". A cute but shy lesser wolf girl with a criminal past, but with no warrant on her head so you couldn't enslave her. That peeved some people, saying she was protected by "plot armor". Nnxx got tired of dealing with a sea of people expressing they wanted to rape/enslave her character, despite multiple rejections (for several reasons). Eventually she just gave up and pulled the plug on the entire thing.

PS: Sorry, forgot to tag you Carl0sDanger.
 
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IvoryOwl said:
According to the author, Lumi, as a character, was meant to be a "pure concentration of all things love dovey". A cute but shy lesser wolf girl with a criminal past, but with no warrant on her head so you couldn't enslave her. That peeved some people, saying she was protected by "plot armor". Nnxx got tired of dealing with a sea of people expressing they wanted to rape/enslave her character, despite multiple rejections (for several reasons). Eventually she just gave up and stopped working on Lumi.
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Oh wow, I'd forgotten all about this. Yeah there was a bunch of drama about the character, I think if the criminal part had been written out/better justified or something everything would have died down in time though.

(I mean, sure some people will always be mad when a writer isn't interested in their kink, but that goes for anything.)
 
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Idk, I think it's logical. Game where criminals face threat of slavery: a character with a criminal past and no atonement would face threat of slavery. But, I guess being Innoxia's friend puts you above the rules, as if Lilith herself somehow took favor to Lumi. But, we would've found a way to "punish" Lumi, since you can export character and modify save files. Should've just compromised, but good thing they removed the character, huh?

Disclaimer: I wasn't around during this episode.
 
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Idk, I think it's logical. Game where criminals face threat of slavery: a character with a criminal past and no atonement would face threat of slavery. But, I guess being Innoxia's friend puts you above the rules, as if Lilith herself somehow took favor to Lumi. But, we would've found a way to "punish" Lumi, since you can export character and modify save files. Should've just compromised, but good thing they removed the character, huh?

Disclaimer: I wasn't around during this episode.
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It seems like the obvious way to fix this would be removing her 'criminal past' background.
 
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Idk, I think it's logical. Game where criminals face threat of slavery: a character with a criminal past and no atonement would face threat of slavery. But, I guess being Innoxia's friend puts you above the rules, as if Lilith herself somehow took favor to Lumi. But, we would've found a way to "punish" Lumi, since you can export character and modify save files. Should've just compromised, but good thing they removed the character, huh?

Disclaimer: I wasn't around during this episode.
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Nnxx discussed her character with Inno and both agreed that adding a slave path wasn't the best outcome. Nnxx stated that none of Lumi's crimes warranted a price on her head (I don't know the specifics), and Innoxia was working on Scarlett as a slave-centered NPC, so if Lumi was made into one too then it would have taken the wind or attention off Scarlett.

But this was like years ago... it's no longer relevant. Nnxx mentioned back then she would not work on Lumi anymore and even if she did, it would be a private thing, no longer meant for the public masses.
 
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Almost got Tobbs flashback with that whole "Do NoT tOuCh My ChArAcTeR!" thing like...come on people, it's a porn game, people's fetishes are weird, just write the story/quests on the character and leave it open for stuff people is gonna do anyway since their kinks are already enabled to begin with in these type of games.
TLDR: Don't be too attached when you write a character for a PORN GAME because people are going to run them through the entire kink train!
 
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IvoryOwl said:
Unrelated to CoC. Lumi was a character contribution written by Nnxx.

According to the author, Lumi was meant to be a "pure concentration of all things love dovey". A cute but shy lesser wolf girl with a criminal past, but with no warrant on her head so you couldn't enslave her. That peeved some people, saying she was protected by "plot armor". Nnxx got tired of dealing with a sea of people expressing they wanted to rape/enslave her character, despite multiple rejections (for several reasons). Eventually she just gave up and pulled the plug on the entire thing.
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I completely forgot about Lumi but I am only on discord for the mods/exports. So how many unique characters has she dropped support or stopped working on the last few years now?
 
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PussyPassAnon said:
I guess being Innoxia's friend puts you above the rules
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The entire debacle would have had merit, but Inno has long since added mountains of exceptions and plot armors and forgotten plotthreads.

The Sterile Office Fox, The forgotten cloaked angel plot, The gym, Nyan's SAT exam for reasons, Rose, Lily, Meraxis/Meranda, Alexandra, Felicia, Cannot hire kids just slaves, Harpy Queens, Fort Bosses, Enforcers in general, Still missing spells/items.

Now that forward development is dead, its all races and clothes. There are literally ~100 race combos (Demo/Taur/Slime Variants included) that can spawn in tiles. But what can spawn where is severely lacking.
I think the code currently allows literally ANYTHING not unique or imp to spawn in canal tiles.

The gameplay loop WAS stable if stale, but now its saturated. The loot WAS fine, but again saturated and stale.
I will say again, extra noncombat encounters, interesting enchanted loot and potions, and spreading spawns thematically.
If only there were maps with varied biomes. If only.

Also clearing the Pastafarian mess. I literally watched the game break down and describe every npc as a "Rat-boi"
"No LT, thats Lily and Rose. They are not mid-twenties Rat-Bois with brown fur."
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I realized I haven't actually shared anything I've been working since last year (Dec), so I'll just leave this here. Unpack it inside the "mods" folder.
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Game needs more loot of this vein, rather than 3% poison resistance. Bonus points if NPCs seal it to the player and only Lily can remove it like Amber's Collar.
Though the spawn numbers may need tweaking. Every NPC that could was exclusively using this, unless they were taurs.
The game quickly became 100% male below the belt as there seems to be no female counterparts.
(If thats by design its still neat.)
 
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