Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Sarkath]

I mean, it's usually less 'dick in the brain' and more sensitive ears and shit. IDK, I've seen plenty of it. And not just because I enjoy the kitsune segments of CoC2 lol

I think that nicely demonstrates how varied the furry fandom is. I've been hanging around it in various forms for quite a while and I honestly don't think I've come across ear sex, lol.

Now cheese graters, on the other hand…

 

[tehlemon]

I think that nicely demonstrates how varied the furry fandom is. I've been hanging around it in various forms for quite a while and I honestly don't think I've come across ear sex, lol.

Now cheese graters, on the other hand…

Honestly though, we shouldn't be surprised by any of this. I mean, just look at Rose and the stupid hand bullshit. I'm actually surprised there's less weird one off things like this. If Inno hadn't been getting constant critisizm for the last two years I imagine we'd have so much half-done one-off encounters like that.

 

[dota23]

I wish they didn't update us when an update was "planned" to be released. They literally never come out when planned and the constant delay announcements just make things worse. I honestly don't think this game would get over half the criticism it receives if they just didn't tell people when they were going to update. At this point you have to accept the story isn't going to finish for a looong time and you should just enjoy the sandbox content.

 

[Lilraya]

Maybe this will be unpopular opinion but I feel like there's too many people who are getting butthurt that LT doesn't get periodic updates, content they want, main story progression, etc... Personally I don't really get why it matters. Yes it kinda sucks to see constant delays or some mechanics that I'd like to be finally revamped not getting attention but I won't go on a witch hunt just for that. As long as it's not getting abandoned I'll still look forward to occasional update and I don't really care when it comes out or what it changes/adds to the game because I'll still find something to do in it (for example abuse some skills to get items that you shouldn't be to access to or try something different on a skill tree no matter how small the change it makes, get a slave of every single race, etc).

And tbh I feel exactly the same about LT as I did about minecraft. Until Microsoft took over minecraft, I saw it as an empty and pointless game because there was nothing to do in it without mods or being a creative soul that finds creative actions like building pretty structures useful way to waste time. But still because of influence of people around me I found some ways to enjoy that game, even if it was trying to go too much techincal into game mechanics or just do stupid things. The difference is that LT is a porn game, so you won't find that many modders as compared to minecraft and the main "quirks" of the game are different, as in minecraft main appeal was creative freedom of building things while LT is fetish game by the looks of it. But I still find some objectives that I want to do in LT and I find enjoyment in that.

On the other hand, if some sort of issue isn't to your taste then for example just go play some other game or go fap to pornhub videos instead of whining about the same things over and over and over again without the end... If you really cared about it, you would go leave a constructive criticism with suggestions of code changes to fix it on LT github or would go and try to find a fix for yourself. For save bloating you can delete about half of the things in the save file, for example log (still leaving xml tags), NPCs with dynamic ids that aren't in some location on the map and so on. If you want more items in the game, there are now easy ways to add them by creating your own svg pictures with xml file describing the item (there are even template example of how to make them). If you don't like some sort of story element or want more story, game code is available on github to the public so you could just download game files and change half of that stuff to your likings or create your own mod. If you don't like too many delay posts, well like it or not some people do better job by having a periodic deadline and being stressed all the time no matter if they meet the deadline or not, no matter how unhealthy all of this is. Game doesn't get updates fast enough, well hey not everything in the world comes out to your liking except probably scuffed AAA games on annual releases with monetization through the arse...

Overall I just hate that when I see people talking about LT, it's just drama and some sort of BS that people don't like... My suggestion just CHILL OUT for once and go do something else if all you can do is complain how much your ass hurts for no reason other than wanting to complain.

 

[262177]

Damn, that's a lot to unpack, and I'm feeling lazy today.

Was it dumb to build the game in Java when not really using any of the benefits that building the game in Java would give you? Fuck yeah.

Is Java the reason the game is shit? Nope. You can definitely make games in Java that don't require stupid amounts of memory for what you're doing, or that perform like ass for no apparent reason.

Edit: But yeah, sometimes its 'dick in the brain'

I've seen some shit.

Extreme skullfucking huh, not my thing, but only because of my penis allergy. I could totally ask for "special chocolates", or omigosh make Candi emit, like, some crazy ass perfume that's, like, gonna make your head spin! I don't even!

// TODO Port this shit to HTML5, pun possibly intended, no args because it's commented out
// public static AbstractItemType CANDI_BIMBO_GAS = new AbstractItemType();
// public static AbstractItemType GIFT_PUREST_CHOCOLATES = new AbstractItemType();

Jokes aside, I totally agree (I even quoted you earlier on the fact Java wasn't the issue here) - this just came out wrong because, honestly, debugging this monstrosity with things you use to debug a perfectly normal Java project is overkill. Sorry about that.

wall of text companions unite

The delay whining is all over the place in the F95 threads. I mean, even alpha games have "update when" posts when a dev updates daily. Comparing this to Minecraft is a bit far-fetched though, and I hate 3D (and don't exactly like Minecraft either).

 

[Daddums]

Let's just fire Innoxia and rewrite this in HTML5 already.

So the game's sessionstorage and localstorage is set to a hard 50MB and with how the game works reach a point where you can't even continue further in the game because you have too many encounters on the board or slaves/waifus in your home? No thanks.

I went through that with FreeCities and it sucks rancid dick having to install trash like Firefox just to up the limit to a gig because it seems no other browser lets you increase either session or local storage. Yes, I exhausted every avenue I could find and it seems all chromium based browsers refuse to let you increase this limit.

 

[tehlemon]

[Boring wall of text]

Okay, so what? You'd rather no one ever talked about anything?

There's fuckall else to talk about with LT. There hasn't been new content in the game worth talking about for six months. If people didn't talk about the dev process, there'd be literally zero discussion about the game. Which is why the official discord doesn't even talk about the game most of the time.

 

[ooeeoo]

So the game's sessionstorage and localstorage is set to a hard 50MB and with how the game works reach a point where you can't even continue further in the game because you have too many encounters on the board or slaves/waifus in your home? No thanks.

I went through that with FreeCities and it sucks rancid dick having to install trash like Firefox just to up the limit to a gig because it seems no other browser lets you increase either session or local storage. Yes, I exhausted every avenue I could find and it seems all chromium based browsers refuse to let you increase this limit.

Sounds like you're using a trash browser.

 

[Daddums]

Sounds like you're using a trash browser.

Yes, for HTML5 I'm using Firefox.

Seriously, though, if you have a better suggestion I'd love to hear it. I went through five different browsers, but they all had the same limitation and no way to increase it. Tried command lines and everything.

 

[ooeeoo]

Yes, for HTML5 I'm using Firefox.

Seriously, though, if you have a better suggestion I'd love to hear it. I went through five different browsers, but they all had the same limitation and no way to increase it. Tried command lines and everything.

Honestly, I just thought it was funny you complained about an issue when the solution is obvious. I prefer Firefox because it's customizable down to its core which helps in issues like this. In any case, wasting 500mb on a dedicated porn browser even if it isn't your preferred choice isn't that big of a deal.

 

[Daddums]

Honestly, I just thought it was funny you complained about an issue when the solution is obvious. I prefer Firefox because it's customizable down to its core which helps in issues like this. In any case, wasting 500mb on a dedicated porn browser even if it isn't your preferred choice isn't that big of a deal.

Yeah, I get that. It's not so much that Firefox taking up space is my concern. It's on a storage drive anyways. It's mostly the knowing that even that gig will be reached eventually and I can kiss that save goodbye. Especially if the code remains as haywired as the java version.

I was mostly just frustrated that Firefox is the only browser that does this and others seemed to have actually moved away from letting you increase session and local storage on your own terms. Makes me wonder if Firefox will ever do the same down the line.

 

[Pie98]

Maybe this will be unpopular opinion but I feel like there's too many people who are getting butthurt that LT doesn't get periodic updates, content they want, main story progression, etc... Personally I don't really get why it matters. Yes it kinda sucks to see constant delays or some mechanics that I'd like to be finally revamped not getting attention but I won't go on a witch hunt just for that. As long as it's not getting abandoned I'll still look forward to occasional update and I don't really care when it comes out or what it changes/adds to the game because I'll still find something to do in it (for example abuse some skills to get items that you shouldn't be to access to or try something different on a skill tree no matter how small the change it makes, get a slave of every single race, etc).

And tbh I feel exactly the same about LT as I did about minecraft. Until Microsoft took over minecraft, I saw it as an empty and pointless game because there was nothing to do in it without mods or being a creative soul that finds creative actions like building pretty structures useful way to waste time. But still because of influence of people around me I found some ways to enjoy that game, even if it was trying to go too much techincal into game mechanics or just do stupid things. The difference is that LT is a porn game, so you won't find that many modders as compared to minecraft and the main "quirks" of the game are different, as in minecraft main appeal was creative freedom of building things while LT is fetish game by the looks of it. But I still find some objectives that I want to do in LT and I find enjoyment in that.

On the other hand, if some sort of issue isn't to your taste then for example just go play some other game or go fap to pornhub videos instead of whining about the same things over and over and over again without the end... If you really cared about it, you would go leave a constructive criticism with suggestions of code changes to fix it on LT github or would go and try to find a fix for yourself. For save bloating you can delete about half of the things in the save file, for example log (still leaving xml tags), NPCs with dynamic ids that aren't in some location on the map and so on. If you want more items in the game, there are now easy ways to add them by creating your own svg pictures with xml file describing the item (there are even template example of how to make them). If you don't like some sort of story element or want more story, game code is available on github to the public so you could just download game files and change half of that stuff to your likings or create your own mod. If you don't like too many delay posts, well like it or not some people do better job by having a periodic deadline and being stressed all the time no matter if they meet the deadline or not, no matter how unhealthy all of this is. Game doesn't get updates fast enough, well hey not everything in the world comes out to your liking except probably scuffed AAA games on annual releases with monetization through the arse...

Overall I just hate that when I see people talking about LT, it's just drama and some sort of BS that people don't like... My suggestion just CHILL OUT for once and go do something else if all you can do is complain how much your ass hurts for no reason other than wanting to complain.

I liked the game until she removed the companion feature, that was the entire point of the game for me. Since that was removed like a year ago there has been barely any progress made to anything, just some more pointless clothing.

 

[Asia Argento]

I feel you people have missed the point here:
Armpit sex is just "meh"
Back of the knee sex is where the real fun is.
Shame on you all for not understanding the need for back of knee sex!

I am just here to impregnate everything under the sun, my in-game aunt and kids too. lol

 

[tehlemon]

I am just here to impregnate everything under the sun, my in-game aunt and kids too. lol

Me too. Sadly the game performance actively punishes me for it =(

I just want to take over the city in the way lilith intends, by filing every available space in the world with my children.

 

[StapleComm]

A lot of text (not that I mind)

While I do agree with you somewhat, I feel like at this point people are justified at being angry.
I seriously don't understand why add a story if you just gonna abandon it. Especially serious one.
Also, FIXING the game really should be on developer part, if the issues don't simply affect the game itself if I understand it correctly.
Feel free to ignore me tho, I really hate getting into arguments with random people on the Internet, just wanted to get my opinion on the whole issue

 

[Sunite]

I liked the game until she removed the companion feature, that was the entire point of the game for me. Since that was removed like a year ago there has been barely any progress made to anything, just some more pointless clothing.

Which was mostly made by a community member, not Inno herself.

 

[blufalcon]

CHILL OUT for once and go do something else

I chilled out and did something else for years and I came back to check up on it only to find out there isn't much change. It's pretty funny.

 

[EmiyaNanaya]

Hmm... Somehow when I use the debug menu, I can't save afterwards...

 

[262177]

Which was mostly made by a community member, not Inno herself.

Like most of the game, which is why "rewriting" the code was brought up.

So the game's sessionstorage and localstorage is set to a hard 50MB and with how the game works reach a point where you can't even continue further in the game because you have too many encounters on the board or slaves/waifus in your home? No thanks.

I went through that with FreeCities and it sucks rancid dick having to install trash like Firefox just to up the limit to a gig because it seems no other browser lets you increase either session or local storage. Yes, I exhausted every avenue I could find and it seems all chromium based browsers refuse to let you increase this limit.

I don't exactly have a browser suggestion so I'm sorry about that but cleaning up all of Inno's mess - yes, the code is a bloody mess - would be part of the port, aka rewriting all that shit from scratch as it's a nonsensical clusterfuck. Reminds me of the CoC nonsense with Fenoxo and its team. Hence the "rewrite" part of the post. Yes, this means actually implementing shit that was dummied out because Inno went "this will break so I'll just disable it" instead of "I suck at doing it right so I'll just work on fixing this first before the entire thing becomes unfixable".

You wouldn't really need 50MB of local storage with a HTML5 text-based game done right even while keeping (and reimplementing) all of the features, including stuff Inno disabled because she was completely clueless on how to do it without breaking things, but you definitely have a point on this limitation being a PITA, even when the storage is optimized.

You don't have to store entire text objects either, references are enough and references are pretty lightweight, unless I don't recall how HTML5 stores stuff by default. There's also, again, if I remember correctly, the option to export the savedata instead of using browser storage, which allows users to not give a fuck about accidentally wiping their savedata (if done wrong, this can cause app files to go nuts on mobile devices, but fuck mobile devices; if a device OS is coded backwards and the user can't access it without rooting or jailbreaking them, the game isn't the problem).

Here is a standalone flash player if anyone wants to use it instead of their web browser. It might help with performance.

Thanks but isn't LT in Java? Or did I miss some part of the discussion?

While I do agree with you somewhat, I feel like at this point people are justified at being angry.
I seriously don't understand why add a story if you just gonna abandon it. Especially serious one.
Also, FIXING the game really should be on developer part, if the issues don't simply affect the game itself if I understand it correctly.
Feel free to ignore me tho, I really hate getting into arguments with random people on the Internet, just wanted to get my opinion on the whole issue

+1. I also don't understand why devs insist on using rocket launchers to kill mosquitoes, especially when Innoxia clearly doesn't know how to use a rocket launcher to start with.

It's fine stating your opinion, you have the right to be upset about things that don't make sense, really. If that makes you feel better, I feel the same way about writers using RPG Maker for pure text, Unity for 2D shit and jQuery for javascript hello world one-liners, with that last one being the best example of "you might not need X".

You don't fucking call 2000 libraries to print "Hello world". You don't fucking use rendering effects that cause a device to overheat for pixel art. Use a fly swatter to kill flies, or hands, not a fucking rocket launcher... And rocket launchers still have their uses, to keep tehlemon's analogy, lol.

Yes, Java has its uses. Yes, it's perfectly possible to use Java to develop a text game and have it run smoothly. LT is NOT an example of this. I wouldn't even want to see what it would look like in Flash. It wouldn't even fit, so it'd probably use Stencyl or whatever other shit under the pretense Flash is dead. Flash being dead has no consequences on a game being shit. And you don't port shit to Unity in expectations of making it look better just because it's fucking Unity. Glazed shit still is shit. It isn't bakery tier chocolate cake just because it's glazed.

Well shit, that was

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but the point is: please don't fucking ruin things with bloat.

 

[262177]

Hmm... Somehow when I use the debug menu, I can't save afterwards...

Tried getting back and making sure you're no longer in the debug menu? If you're still in the menu, it'll likely prevent you from saving. If you're stuck in debug mode, then yeah no, it's broken indeed.

Speaking of the debugging menu, that one was a bit buried so...

Really dumb question so please bear with me but, is there a way to use the parser to evaluate static final "constants" or did I lose even more brain cells playing around with this here?

e.g. ONGOING, VAGINA, CANDI_SEX_TIMER_ID, etc.

(The actual definitions are referenced pretty easily but the parser doesn't exactly like that, either. And yeah, there's also the way less tryhard XML approach, but the goal is doing it live.)