Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[BeholdTheWizzard]

This person claims to work 6-7 days a week 12 hours a day? Absolute, grade-A bullshit. Unless you consider "work" sitting at your computer browsing Reddit. Seriously, working for 4 hours a day 4 days a week should produce more results than this.

As someone who is making his own game (3, actually), I can confirm this.
I have my regular work, and I spend much of my free time procastrinating and fapping, but still manage to make more progress a month with 1-2 hours of work a day than Inno in a year.

 

[StratoSquir]

Tentacles are currently only supported to be octopus' legs, they can't just sprout out of your body and whip people's ass like Doctor Octopus. If you're still willing to have them, buy Shrimp Cocktail (octopus' food item), enchant Legs > Transformative I (to get octo legs) then Legs > Cephalopod body to get dem tentacles.

yeah, we definitely need some tentacles that dosn't need a cephalopod body-type.
i mean, i'm fine with the cephalopod for now, but when i saw "dayum i can have tentacles",
i was thinking about looking more like a Mechanicus-Adeptus than a Eldritch-Abomination

 

[IvoryOwl]

[...]Tentacles [...] Eldritch-Abomination

I'd be all over that in a heartbeat! ❤
Alas, I don't think we're going to see anything of the sort any time soon, or at all. I just don't see how it would be plausible to fit abyss creatures in the lore but I would be pleasantly surprised if they got in. If nothing else, we can expect a modder to add them.

PS: I mean, if push comes to shove, you could maybe use add a little elbow grease to the ol' noggin and imagine a slime-octopus as something along those lines.

 

[StratoSquir]

I'd be all over that in a heartbeat! ❤
Alas, I don't think we're going to see anything of the sort any time soon, or at all. I just don't see how it would be plausible to fit abyss creatures in the lore but I would be pleasantly surprised if they got in. If nothing else, we can expect a modder to add them.

PS: I mean, if push comes to shove, you could maybe use add a little elbow grease to the ol' noggin and imagine the slimes as something along those lines.

that's... not what i said at-all...
i said you could already kinda make one, just get the cephalopod lower-body, and get somes fish transformations here and there

what i said is that i wanted tentacles that dosn't require a lower-body,
like spiderman's character "Doc-Octo" tentacles, or "Macanicus-Adeptus" types tentacles
(ones that sprout from the back/shoulder)

 

[IvoryOwl]

that's... not what i said at-all...
i said you could already kinda make one, just get the cephalopod lower-body, and get somes fish transformations here and there

what i said is that i wanted tentacles that dosn't require a lower-body,
like spiderman's character "Doc-Octo" tentacles, or "Macanicus-Adeptus" types tentacles
(ones that sprout from the back/shoulder)

Oops. I misunderstood what you meant.
I'd be fine with back/shoulder tentacles though.

 

[StratoSquir]

Oops. I misunderstood what you meant.
I'd be fine with back/shoulder tentacles though.

for now i'm satisfied with playing as a Eldritch-abomination,
got them tentacles legs, 2 sets of snakes eyes, a snake-tongue, a pair of antlers, two set of arms, and scaly-wings x)

 

[KibaLarnia]

I haven't played the Story to much. I've set my tf Options in the Settings and enjoyed running around in Alleyways and running into my favorite Kind of Foe, just to ... geting forced to drink tf Potions & Kink Potions... Until One Point, when i felt like there is nothing more...

Is there actualy some Plot that forces the MC to do nasty Stuff or get transformed, getting any Kind of Fetish or get into Prostitution?


Everything seemed pretty self choosen... but what i miss, is lack of beeing suggested into doing certain things, choices i rather wouldn't wanted to do. As if the devil would try to sweettalk an unwillingful Victim of Circumstances to be a little bit more willingful... and run into a Domino effect of nasty choices.

 

[tehlemon]

Is there actualy some Plot that forces the MC to do nasty Stuff or get transformed, getting any Kind of Fetish or get into Prostitution?

Nope. Not at all.

Everything seemed pretty self choosen... but what i miss, is lack of beeing suggested into doing certain things, choices i rather wouldn't wanted to do. As if the devil would try to sweettalk an unwillingful Victim of Circumstances to be a little bit more willingful... and run into a Domino effect of nasty choices.

You won't find that here, sorry. In fact, the closest thing you get to a devil is the one convincing you to do good things... weird huh? But even then, not really.

 

[souldead341]

I haven't played the Story to much. I've set my tf Options in the Settings and enjoyed running around in Alleyways and running into my favorite Kind of Foe, just to ... geting forced to drink tf Potions & Kink Potions... Until One Point, when i felt like there is nothing more...

Is there actualy some Plot that forces the MC to do nasty Stuff or get transformed, getting any Kind of Fetish or get into Prostitution?


Everything seemed pretty self choosen... but what i miss, is lack of beeing suggested into doing certain things, choices i rather wouldn't wanted to do. As if the devil would try to sweettalk an unwillingful Victim of Circumstances to be a little bit more willingful... and run into a Domino effect of nasty choices.

Kind of, been a while since I played what of the story there is. There's scene where an item tries to force your gender preferences to change. There's also loss TF / kink scenes (which you can disable) that force the player to conform to whatever beat them's preferences. Those are against the standard enemies you fight (the one's you've been transforming).

 

[madchef]

The West is still very conservative towards sex and the porn industry.

I strongly disagree with that. Quite the contrary, the West still is the most sex-positive and porn-industrious part of the world. Modern porn was actually invented in the West and the West is still pushing the envelope of what is morally and legally acceptable when it comes to socio-sexual mores. After all, SubscribeStar is based in USA and the creator of this game openly admits they are making a lot basically writing smut, more than I am in my wholesome boring office job. Prostitution and pornography in the West is now becoming sex work. I don't think any other part of the world has commodified intimacy and sexual desires as profoundly as the West. Which creates issues of its own, if we're being honest with ourselves.

The core of the problem regarding amateur porn game creators using subscription-style financial model, instead of selling the finished product at least in part stems from the paradigm shift in computer software use/ownership. Monthly subscription instead of once-off payment is now the norm, whether it's an office application or a non-porn game. There is also this vast area of nominally free online services and porn as a whole (not just games, but also literature, graphic art and audiovisual performances featuring live performers) occupies this awkward space between paid and nominally free. As most porn users usually don't pay for their online porn, those who do sooner or later develop this entitled attitude of a paying customer and, as is often the case in amateur gaming industry (which the other participants in this discussion noticed), developers become commissioned artists, or - to use a more drastic metaphor - sex workers who cater to their client's, not their own, desires. In result, the end product can often be a half-hearted, insincere pursuit of cheap thrills that the author in their heart of hearts does not feel nor obsess about - they will add this or that just because it is now in vogue.

You may find me weird, but apart from having my own kinks and preferences, the thing I find most exciting not just in porn, but in exchange of sexual ideas of other people (and pornography, from the consumer's point of view, is in essence just that - absorption of sexual thoughts that were conceived in someone else's mind) is those other people's obsessions so consummate, yet sincere and articulate enough that they can seduce and corrupt me, even though I have never even entertained this or that idea. Alas, a lot of lewd game devs are not that proficient pornographers (compared to even amateur porn writers) and they run out of their own steam too fast, in effect drifting on their fans and supporters suggestions, while needlessly deluding themselves that their project will be such an opus magnum of porn gaming that it will take at least 5 years to complete.

 

[BBGunna]

You may find me weird, but apart from having my own kinks and preferences, the thing I find most exciting not just in porn, but in exchange of sexual ideas of other people (and pornography, from the consumer's point of view, is in essence just that - absorption of sexual thoughts that were conceived in someone else's mind) is those other people's obsessions so consummate, yet sincere and articulate enough that they can seduce and corrupt me, even though I have never even entertained this or that idea

I don't find it weird at all, honestly I'm in 100% agreement with you. Aunthencity is exciting, the best sexual experiences, be the erotica, artwork, adult games, movies, sexual roleplay both irl and online, are in my opinion ones where there is a clear passion for the acts being performed or portrayed. Sure some people are really good actors, the same way the nicest actors can portray irredeemable bastard expertly, so can a skilled pornagrapher draw you into the fantasy even if it does absolutely zilch for them personally. It's just so much better imo when you can tell someone has real emotion and obsession in their kinks, bridnig that into work tends to make people who normally aren't into that fantasy at least appreciate it. It's why I'd honestly like to see more porn games that focus one or a few kinks really well rather than trying to make every game a bland homogenous mesh of every fetish under the sun(I think another user echoed this same sentiment a few comments up as well).

Alas, a lot of lewd game devs are not that proficient pornographers (compared to even amateur porn writers) and they run out of their own steam too fast, in effect drifting on their fans and supporters suggestions, while needlessly deluding themselves that their project will be such an opus magnum of porn gaming that it will take at least 5 years to complete

Not to mention its easy to lose sight of things once the money rolls in. It's easy to take a break here and there as you rediscover or fine tune your own personal preferences when you're creating a piece of art(or smut) solely for your own amusement or as a mere hobby. The moment it becomes no longer a side project but a source of income, especially your MAIN source of income. Well then it becomes real easy to just coast off fan suggestions when you yourself start running out of steam, or even just get bogged in trying to reel in a wider audience rather than curating a niche fanbase and giving them the best experience.

 

[dinodick]

Speaking of which, I wasn't following this for a few months and I noticed one thing that piqued my curriosity - something about carrying a child that isn't yours in the depressing changelog. Is that some new mechanic? FINALLY some use for condoms?

In short, if there's a character who lays eggs with an ovipositor clit/penis able to penetrate, they can use somebody else to carry fertilized eggs by depositing them into an orifice on orgasm. The resulting kids show up on the carrier's offspring list as "incubated" (the changelog was about how this had been bugged) so there's potentially 3 parents and they count as incest. The pregnancy cycle ends in an alleyway not Lilaya. I think only spiders end up with the egg/ovi combo as a default, anything else you have to transform.

 

[darklove]

Which gender is better to start this game with? Considering the unchangeable gender characters, i prefer straight content FtoM or MtoF

 

[Aazkaal]

Which gender is better to start this game with? Considering the unchangeable gender characters, i prefer straight content FtoM or MtoF

While named characters can't be changed, you can disable certain types of NPCs from spawning randomly (like turning off all random males or futas, for example).

Out of named characters, I think females are slightly more common than males. Including all currently romanceable characters. If you absolutely wish to avoid any F/F sex, then I think playing as male would be better.

 

[coretex]

Usually start Male chars myself, but the game allows you to flipflop with all the potions and what not in the game.. so technically.. you could play both sides as needed. If you go cheatmode you can use that to even easier to do it if you rather not use game mechanics to play it out.

 

[C E N S O R E D]

The game is unplayable for me, my monitor is too small for the game and there's no option menu to help me set it however i want it to be

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

In short, if there's a character who lays eggs with an ovipositor clit/penis able to penetrate, they can use somebody else to carry fertilized eggs by depositing them into an orifice on orgasm. The resulting kids show up on the carrier's offspring list as "incubated" (the changelog was about how this had been bugged) so there's potentially 3 parents and they count as incest. The pregnancy cycle ends in an alleyway not Lilaya. I think only spiders end up with the egg/ovi combo as a default, anything else you have to transform.

Well, that's dissapointing. I though that finally an option to use collected cum to impregnate someone sneakily was added.

Speaking of which, for laughs/test, I edited my save and changed some special NPCs races (de-furrifying everyone) and genders. Game works normaly. So all the excuses that special NPC's can't follow general prefernves is UTTER BULLCRAP.

 

[Tattletale21]

The game is unplayable for me, my monitor is too small for the game and there's no option menu to help me set it however i want it to be

how, uh, small is your monitor? because i'm pretty sure the game tells you what buttons to press to resize the game to fit your monitor's size and, unless your monitor is the size of a small tablet, it should work. look around the main menu as you start up, it should tell you what buttons to press.

 

[HumblestRanger]

Well, that's dissapointing. I though that finally an option to use collected cum to impregnate someone sneakily was added.

Speaking of which, for laughs/test, I edited my save and changed some special NPCs races (de-furrifying everyone) and genders. Game works normaly. So all the excuses that special NPC's can't follow general prefernves is UTTER BULLCRAP.

Considering that special NPCs behave exactly the same way as any random ones in sex scenes as well - I am not really surprised. From my bystander's eyes, every single NPC in the game seems to be the same template copypasted over and over with some minor values being randomized(the manner of speech, the appearance, etc.) The only difference in special ones being that they are permanently baked into the game world with some extra detachable "modules"(such as unique dialogues) applied. Otherwise they are all the bloody same.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

Which gender is better to start this game with? Considering the unchangeable gender characters, i prefer straight content FtoM or MtoF

You can craft TF potions to turn non-procedural NPCs (and yourself) into the opposite gender if you wish, but in terms of mechanical benefits if you refrain from using TF, I think an ambiphilic female would be the best option, though the situations that I recall where it applies are altogether edge cases:

• Much quicker to reach the necessary thresholds for bypassing the matriarch fights on the Harpy Nest quest, generally only requiring gaining a couple fetishes and perks. They're not very hard to beat, but it's something.
• If you TF into a wolf, you can skip the Brax fight without having to take the Observant perk. Taking Observant is a far better idea anyway since it's literally free to respec in comparison to having to invest a chunk of essence into a transformation potion, but eh.
• If you don't mind creating a lot of children, you can leverage your ability to get pregnant: you can make good money on breeder roulette, and for buying Brax, you can bypass the usual 50,000 price by doing so. This is only relevant if you don't use some exploit/cheese to have infinite money.
• You get access to all NPC current sex scenes, most notably Scarlett on the Helena romance quest line, who is gynephilic, as well as that one fox guard in the Slaver Alley. There might be an androphilic character somewhere in Elis that I remember reading about. If you decide to make your character androgynous instead of feminine/very feminine, you get access to everyone for certain.
  

Altogether, you can play as pretty much anyone you want without being locked out of too much content, especially since you can transform yourself to be able to access it later.