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Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

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Arkus86

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Mishun said:
more than 100 pages of abandoned games:cry:
i hope this game will be reawakened by developer, i like it
just need a little bit of polishing and progression of story
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With the state of the code, it needs more than just a little bit of polishing, it needs a full rework.
If the game version is reflective of the point in the main story, it is almost halfway through and at the rate Inno is going, would need at least another decade to finish.
That said, the chances this game is going to be truly abandoned before Inno dies (or miracuously finishes it) are slim, with how profitable it is.
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So my guess is that Inno got a full-time job and that job brings in as much dough as LT or more. LT is the second, less important job, and because the fanbase is naive, excuses—the cheapest overemployment technique—are working.
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I suppose I can't rule that out, but if I got paid twice the average salary for doing almost nothing, I would not bother with a full-time job on top of that.
TheeSonus said:
Yeah. With how much of a spaghetti factory explosion-tier disaster the code to this game is, I don't think it's any wonder that anyone and everyone knows you'd need to rebuild it from the base up instead of trying to work with it if you wanted to improve it. It's the equivalent of deleting coconut.jpg, but actually real.
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You might be underestimating the zeaoltry of her fanbase.
 
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Lure of Chaos said:
I'll try to make it better if I can and not eventually get bored.
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Your reward for this will be Inno taking your work and releasing it as her update. You'll get credit, but she will own it.

There is no legal way for anyone to "take over" development of this game. I strongly advise you to work on a similar project of your own rather than attempting to "fix" or continue this one. This game is tagged "abandoned" here, due to Inno's failure to do actual work on it. Inno has not said that she has abandoned it; even if she did, she'd still own the IP.
 
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Think most the problem is that Inno coded it in Java. Javas a good language for a lot of stuff but you really need to know the language front to back if you want to do a complex project with it, and it needs to planned from the start.
 
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This happens all the time, you find a game you like, you forget about it for 2 or 3 years and when you play it again the game is basically the same + a few things added along the way so the author can keep milking idiots on patreon.
 
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Another reason why this game will never be finished is the conflict of 2 core mechanics: on the one hand we have sandbox with freedom and customization, on the other hand we have linear narrative with static characters nailed to the ground. As a result, developers basically have to make 2 different games at the same time, but due to the inevitable conflict between two approaches, none of them will be as good as it would be if the developer focused on only one.
If someone plans to make a clone of this game, they should ditch the story and just make a horny life simulator a la The Guild.
 
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sergemenog said:
Another reason why this game will never be finished is the conflict of 2 core mechanics: on the one hand we have sandbox with freedom and customization, on the other hand we have linear narrative with static characters nailed to the ground. As a result, developers basically have to make 2 different games at the same time, but due to the inevitable conflict between two approaches, none of them will be as good as it would be if the developer focused on only one.
If someone plans to make a clone of this game, they should ditch the story and just make a horny life simulator a la The Guild.
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I'm not sure I agree with this.
One main story + dotted around side quests + sandbox... that's basically every open world RPG ever. I don't see a problem with that. Bog-standard stuff, really.
 
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Lure of Chaos said:
Got to look at sourcecode and i'm stunned: the code is a creepy crap!
So i've forked it to make it somehow better.

Please take a look:
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and
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. Here I've slightly reorganized code and resources, though I've failed to get
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married, so no luck getting rid of files unpacked. But now they are in user home directory, not exe location. The next step will be mods loading (hope soon)


Try to look at this one.


Six months no updates. I think author has stuck with the mess of code. So much code and so much dupes,
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totally got raped. Plus it's fragile - even rearranging code breaks the game. And totally slow, as JS been constantly parsing (by
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I'll try to make it better if I can and not eventually get bored.
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Currently working on my own game to be a spiritual successor for LT, would greatly appreciate it if you wanted to help in making the game a reality!
 
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Sant3224 said:
Hi do you have the link of this game? I can't seem to find it on google
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The Guild isn't a porn game or anything. It's just a pretty good life sim-ish game but quite old at this point. A lot of people recommend The Guild 2: Renaissance if you want to give it a shot. There's also a newer release (The Guild 3) but I've seen mixed opinions.
 
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The reason the game is fucked is the same reason all these open world porn games end up in trouble. They start off running well but the developers don't have the experience to plan ahead and work hard on a solid framework that can handle the load that they are going to end up putting on it nor do they plan ahead for a system that allows content to be added in an efficient manner.

It seems they either rush to get the actual porn stuff out ASAP either out of genuine enthusiasm to show off what they have and their ideas (understandable) or to get the bucks in faster because no one is going to paypig every week/month an empty skeleton and framework with no narrative or actual porn for the months it'd take them to plan and build it properly. As a result the game becomes what we see here and with so many others - a total mess and a patchwork of bad and clashing ideas, dead ends, bad infrastructure and gross inefficiencies that they end up stuck with and have to keep building on top of, despite it becoming either more and more difficult or more and more buggy and slow. We get one emergency fix on top of another as the problems become inescapable. We see smaller and smaller content drops as it goes on as the devs can no longer churn out whole scenes because the tweaking the code is like tackling a jenga tower while drunk. Splendid Ostrich is another example of this with a similar game type. Started off with a LOT more content coming out and then it just became this slow weak wet fart doing just enough per month to keep the pigs paying despite the fact anyone rational would ask why the game has taken the best part of a decade when whole massive complicated games are on Steam for sale (or free!) that were made solo in less time with way more to them than a few repetitive text fap scenes.

The fact that this game runs like a turd is the first red flag. It's great porn content and gameplay in a lot of parts but man is it screwed over by the backbone it's built on. The game just kept getting slower and slower, adding content and expanding it is a slog that it shouldn't be for a text game.
 
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Shumpok said:
The Guild isn't a porn game or anything. It's just a pretty good life sim-ish game but quite old at this point. A lot of people recommend The Guild 2: Renaissance if you want to give it a shot. There's also a newer release (The Guild 3) but I've seen mixed opinions.
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There's a bunch of fan mods for TG2 that's worth getting too.
 
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NorthStarSteve said:
Still waiting for Inno to Open the Comments on the blog back up.
Sure is taking awhile. Weird.
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The blog comments had morphed into a direct stream of 4chan by the end of their existence (including a lot of n-word spam), and she wasn't willing to trudge through and moderate it for the two or three actually useful comments, so she nuked it entirely. Given they're still not back, she probably (arguably correctly) still thinks turning them back on will just lead to a repeat of that.
 
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Shumpok said:
The Guild isn't a porn game or anything. It's just a pretty good life sim-ish game but quite old at this point. A lot of people recommend The Guild 2: Renaissance if you want to give it a shot. There's also a newer release (The Guild 3) but I've seen mixed opinions.
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Oh so then I've found it, thanks tho for make it clear
 
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