Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[LubricatedKitty]

You mean like she did earlier, or do you mean a half-year break that is actually planned and communicated?

I would hazard that the future of the game looks much the same as it does now. Literally. 'Version 0.4.11 by Valentine's Day next year' the same.

A break that is planned and communicated but the difference could be negligible depending on the developers mindset around taking breaks. When I take planned breaks I don't have to do much thinking on what I have to do next and worry myself about the future for a while. By break I really mean a break from everything, not just game development but everything having to do with the game.
The developer probably knows what's best. I just hope the game doesn't get abandoned and ends up actually making progress because the future for this game looks static, like you said.

 

[sojocal]

It seems like the developer of this game is really suffering from development fatigue like the Lifeplay developer. I feel like she should just postpone the development of the game (for maybe 6 months to a year) for the sake of her mental health and let other people take the reins.

Also, I feel like it's been over a year and the update I had a year ago is barely distinguishable from the last one. It seems like there has been a lot of small (but useful) features added, but I was banking on more dialogue options and events for the procedural characters. I am probably wrong here, but I'm not really involved with this game's community.

In comparison, whenever I downloaded a new update after 6 months for a game like COC2 and TITS, I know I'm getting a good amount of content and a couple new characters and a feature or two added to the game.

This is one of my favorite games on this site here though. It's definitely a 9/10 or 10/10 for me. I just want to know what's the consensus on this project from this community and what the future looks like for this game.

Remember when she took a vacation. Remember when she got back and content was still getting delayed. At this point, maybe switching to a different project would be better because i don't think they're going to be making any meaningful content. From what i'm seeing, they're not improving their engine, they're barely adding quest, the sandbox is basically the same as when i first started playing it.

The game is open-source, so anyone can fork it and code features for it. There's over 80 PRs for the game on github for bugfixes and features to be added, but they're not gonna get into the main game until Innoxia returns.

Hold your horses! I hate to go FSF or full-gnu on that statement but the game isn't open source. The source is privately owned with you as a member of the public being allowed to view it. If you make any changes to that source code, those changes don't belong to you, or the public but the OG devs per their software license which explicitly say all changes belong to them.

I modded the game when you had to by hand edit at least 10(or was it 100.... i don't remember and don't want to be hyperbolic but i do know i had 100+ compile errors) different switch statements just to add a new race. I flatout wont mod this game anymore because of that license.

 

[Noah Neim]

Remember when she took a vacation. Remember when she got back and content was still getting delayed. At this point, maybe switching to a different project would be better because i don't think they're going to be making any meaningful content. From what i'm seeing, they're not improving their engine, they're barely adding quest, the sandbox is basically the same as when i first started playing it.

Bahaha, a classic move, indefinite suspension of a game which means "gwuys i pwomise ill come back to it i just fweel weally burnt out " and they start another game, where the same thing happens

You can't teach an old dog new tricks

 

[deathsman]

I have a Question about Enchanting, and sorry in advance if it was asked before, i couldnt find the Answer.:
when you add a growth enchantment, (like more sperm storage) does it grow infinitly when i leave the limit at 0 or do I need to always increase or max the Limit?

 

[BaloneyAmone]

I have a Question about Enchanting, and sorry in advance if it was asked before, i couldnt find the Answer.:
when you add a growth enchantment, (like more sperm storage) does it grow infinitly when i leave the limit at 0 or do I need to always increase or max the Limit?

You have to increase the limit. The limit is what the item will the body part/volume to, and is free to change, while the rate is how frequent increments happen, and is more expensive the quicker you want it to happen.

 

[Knoppers85]

Some guy posted something like this in the thread once:

• Release barebones update at the start of the year
• Post about missing the deadline of the next update a couple of times
• Release it towards May/June with around half of the promised content
• Promise regualr updates and more frequent communication
• Inno has a family emergency / burnout / unhappy with the code or writing for the next few months
• Release trash update in Summer
• Disappear until the end of the year again
• Rinse and Repeat for the next year while pocketing SubStar $$$$

At this point in time I think she's (?) doing it deliberately, as the above happened at least 5 years in a row.

 

[Noah Neim]

Some guy posted something like this in the thread once:

• Release barebones update at the start of the year
• Post about missing the deadline of the next update a couple of times
• Release it towards May/June with around half of the promised content
• Promise regualr updates and more frequent communication
• Inno has a family emergency / burnout / unhappy with the code or writing for the next few months
• Release trash update in Summer
• Disappear until the end of the year again
• Rinse and Repeat for the next year while pocketing SubStar $$$$

At this point in time I think she's (?) doing it deliberately, as the above happened at least 5 years in a row.

If it works, it works, people have been buying it for years they will buy it forever more until the game dies

 

[Loliphile]

Hi.

Love Ya

i still can't get it to run, same java error on MacOs.

Did you install Java 17 or Java 21? It does require that version. Vanilla uses Java 8, Modded Version uses Java 17+.

If the Java Error contains [JNI] or something like that, it's Java Version. DM me on here with the exact details and I can try to sort it out..

 

[Jamsalad]

Insane how much money this game gets and every update feels like there are some how lots of comments about changes yet when you read them nothing of substance is ever added and somehow most the content is from volunteers?

 

[SinPrime]

Insane how much money this game gets and every update feels like there are some how lots of comments about changes yet when you read them nothing of substance is ever added and somehow most the content is from volunteers?

Innoxia is just milking her subs at this point, because afaik it's the only type of game like that, so there's no real competition for it, and the seniority of the project (started in 2016 iirc?) makes it a household name.
If anyone tried to make a legitimate competitor for this game, Innoxia would lose so much support and volunteer work.

 

[BryanDanielson]

I am actually in the discord and I cannot find anything to suggest Ino is a nazi. While it is possible that stuff got purged, the fact the timeline the "rumor" is talking about would be a time where her discord was actually a lot more active and her blog actually was open for comments, makes it highly unlikely that this would be under the radar if she was doing nazi stuff.

Now, can we focus more on the constant yapping of more important things, like how how the code is complete spaghetti for the 100th time.

 

[Rakih Elyan]

Hypothetically, can someone who subscribed to a creator- sue for broken or false promise or even failure to bring product at the promised date?

 

[Noah Neim]

Hypothetically, can someone who subscribed to a creator- sue for broken or false promise or even failure to bring product at the promised date?

Maybe class action one might work? Altough not sure if it'd just be negligence or if you could push for fraud, though i doubt anyone is brave enough to sue Inno and reveal their depraved kinks to an entire court (and eventually the news)

though it's highly unlikely to fly in any court though

 

[DarthSion98]

Hypothetically, can someone who subscribed to a creator- sue for broken or false promise or even failure to bring product at the promised date?

Just convince everyone to unsub.
No product, no money.

 

[TheeSonus]

Hypothetically, can someone who subscribed to a creator- sue for broken or false promise or even failure to bring product at the promised date?

Obligatory "not a lawyer, not legal advice", all that shit.
If it IS a full-time job, and something was promised to you that you didn't receive, then I would assume yes. However, Innoxia only ever said "treat development of Lilith's Throne as a full-time job." Not that it IS a full-time job, just that it's being treated like one. So, I'd say the argument is wobbly at best, as much as I wish it wasn't. I don't think it's possible. At least not in this scenario, from my tenuous at best understanding of law.

 

[sojocal]

Hypothetically, can someone who subscribed to a creator- sue for broken or false promise or even failure to bring product at the promised date?

not likely.
First off dev is English which means English law and courts. Second what's the damage you've suffered? in a year assume $10 per month, that's $120 in a year so in 10 years your damage is $1,200. You're asking the court to let you take 1,200 from someone else, in which case you aren't even sure you'll give it to you. This seems like a small claims court issue except i have no idea if that's a thing in England. I guess you could do a class action but what exactly are you trying to get back, and how do you expect the dev to pay you back? In the end of the day, the best course of action is just unsubscribed from the pateron but obviously less cathartic.

Obligatory "not a lawyer, not legal advice", all that shit.
If it IS a full-time job, and something was promised to you that you didn't receive, then I would assume yes. However, Innoxia only ever said "treat development of Lilith's Throne as a full-time job." Not that it IS a full-time job, just that it's being treated like one. So, I'd say the argument is wobbly at best, as much as I wish it wasn't. I don't think it's possible. At least not in this scenario, from my tenuous at best understanding of law.

I don't think this is important. People paying Innoxia aren't her employer. Even if she was treating it as a part time gig, i don't really think there's anything actionable. The business model is basically us the customer being a patron of an artist. If that artist does fuck all, that's kinda what artist uses to do.

 

[_BMW_]

how do i set it so no men spawn and i dont make sons

also how do i order custom slaves?

 

[Noah Neim]

how do i set it so no men spawn and i dont make sons

also how do i order custom slaves?

1. in the settings

2. get the infertile perk

3. right next to the slave administration you should be able to order a custom slave, or import one in the auction

 

[BaloneyAmone]

how do i set it so no men spawn and i dont make sons

also how do i order custom slaves?

Content Options -> Gender preferences and set "Male" (and any other undesired genders) to "Off". Offspring genders are controlled by the same table as random NPC spawns, so you can't have, say, only daughters AND still have men NPCs spawn in the world.

Custom slaves can be purchased by completing Helena's personal quest to unlock her romance (you don't have to romance her). This menu doesn't give you the full range of options available, mainly locking off the more exotic races from purchase, but you do get most of the common ones on top of being able to mould their name, personality, fetishes, etc. as you see fit.
Alternatively, you can use the Auctioning Block in combination with either the "Export Character" button with an inspected NPC, or through Options -> Export Character to export your current player character to a file, which you can then import and do a little minigame to buy. You can get access to basically anything you can find in the game world (or will into existence via debug menu shenanigans), but note that some races will be very expensive to buy this way, such as dragons and demons.

 

[_Metamorphosis_]

how do i set it so no men spawn and i dont make sons

Just sissify them and break them like a normal person bro