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I have no idea if it's still broken, as I usually don't play that way, but at least you cannot easily become a dragon anymore.
Transformations are now locked behind having advanced knowledge of a species (having read the book). Since there are no wild dragons, the only way to attain advanced knowledge of dragons now is to complete the quest of the dragon NPC in Elis.
But there is the caveat that your discovered species can be shared across saves (though I don't remember if it's on by default), so as long you get the knowledge once, it's unlocked on every new save.

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Well, and it seems to me that the Magic Academy would be a fairly popular and favorite place, something that would be much more in demand than some secondary quests with a fairly narrow audience with specific fetishes.

Considering everything that I managed to read here about the frequency of updating the game and the content of these updates, I will probably sound strange, but I just wanted to express my thoughts after the first run on what content would be very relevant for the game.
You might be right that it would be a popular side content, if properly developed. But even if you were to do all the work yourself and hand it over today as a contribution ready to be merged in, it could take up to half a year for Inno to even grace it with her notice, an undetermined amount of time before she decides if she even wants it in, and easily two or more years after she approves it (if she does) before it might be merged in. And those are official timelines, assuming you do all the work and won't have to wait for someone else to pick it up, while Inno does not have the best track record with her own timelines.

But if you want to test your luck anyway, you can throw the idea around her Discord. If there is any chance of your idea making it in at any point, it's through her echo chamber.
 
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I have no idea if it's still broken, as I usually don't play that way, but at least you cannot easily become a dragon anymore.
Transformations are now locked behind having advanced knowledge of a species (having read the book). Since there are no wild dragons, the only way to attain advanced knowledge of dragons now is to complete the quest of the dragon NPC in Elis.
But there is the caveat that your discovered species can be shared across saves (though I don't remember if it's on by default), so as long you get the knowledge once, it's unlocked on every new save.
I thought you couldn't go dragon without that weird shmuck in Elis anyway, since he's the sole source of dragon fruits, which he gives up only in the event of doing his silly quest.
 

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I thought you couldn't go dragon without that weird shmuck in Elis anyway, since he's the sole source of dragon fruits, which he gives up only in the event of doing his silly quest.
If you have advanced knowledge of a species, you can use the transformation feature of demons and slimes to transform into that species.
So once you can use dragon transformation, there's two ways to turn into a dragon:
1) Transform into a slime via the bio canister, transform into a slime-dragon, then transform back to flesh via enchanted bio-canister. Congrats, you're a dragon!
2) Transform a random slime into a dragon-slime, then use an enchanted bio-canister to turn them into flesh. They're a dragon now. Leave and come back a day or so later, defeat them, and they might have dragon food in their inventory which you can use to transform anyone into a dragon.
 

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If you have advanced knowledge of a species, you can use the transformation feature of demons and slimes to transform into that species.
So once you can use dragon transformation, there's two ways to turn into a dragon:
1) Transform into a slime via the bio canister, transform into a slime-dragon, then transform back to flesh via enchanted bio-canister. Congrats, you're a dragon!
2) Transform a random slime into a dragon-slime, then use an enchanted bio-canister to turn them into flesh. They're a dragon now. Leave and come back a day or so later, defeat them, and they might have dragon food in their inventory which you can use to transform anyone into a dragon.
Yup, pretty much what I used to do to become a fire dragon, then have the elemental master perk, summon a fire elemental (so between race and elemental had 100 fire power for free) and combine fire demonstones (count as fists) with martial arts and soldier background for like...a gazillion critical damage burst and use all of my free enchantment slots to increase critical and fists damage.
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Oh and also give the fire elemental a ton of resistances and a zweihander for it to hit enemies with since is gonna be around for combat anyway.
 

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Yup, pretty much what I used to do to become a fire dragon, then have the elemental master perk, summon a fire elemental (so between race and elemental had 100 fire power for free) and combine fire demonstones (count as fists) with martial arts and soldier background for like...a gazillion critical damage burst and use all of my free enchantment slots to increase critical and fists damage.
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Oh and also give the fire elemental a ton of resistances and a zweihander for it to hit enemies with since is gonna be around for combat anyway.
I just use Katana and Wakizashi with two different elements, lots of damage boost enchantments and still one-shot most enemies. If ever any enemy survives the all-out attack, they just wipe out my elemental first and then die to the second attack.
Only transformation my character has is wings to be able to travel quickly before unlocking teleportation.

You don't really need any fancy cheesing in this game to create an OP build.
 

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I just use Katana and Wakizashi with two different elements, lots of damage boost enchantments and still one-shot most enemies. If ever any enemy survives the all-out attack, they just wipe out my elemental first and then die to the second attack.
Only transformation my character has is wings to be able to travel quickly before unlocking teleportation.

You don't really need any fancy cheesing in this game to create an OP build.
I have a nigh-autistic love for big numbers and like doing +1k damage to enemies (also same on wings department, don't wanna go all furry to be op so tend to just get some dragon wings, hell, feathered wings still count for dragons so if anything looks kinda angel-ish)
 

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Huh, now Dragon tf through slime requires you to have seen one...I'm guessing I need to make them the most common furry preference huh? didn't found dragon fruits at Ralph's
 

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Huh, now Dragon tf through slime requires you to have seen one...I'm guessing I need to make them the most common furry preference huh? didn't found dragon fruits at Ralph's
Dragons don't appear in the wild. You need to finish the quest for the dragon trader in Elis to unlock advanced knowledge of dragons.
 
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Huh, now Dragon tf through slime requires you to have seen one...I'm guessing I need to make them the most common furry preference huh? didn't found dragon fruits at Ralph's
Dragonfruit now comes from a single NPC in Elis who only shows up for the first three days of each month, and it is only available for purchase after you complete a quest for him and improve your relationship with him.
On top of that, just seeing one does not give you the knowledge anymore, you need to read the race book.
I resorted to the cheat menu.
 

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Dragons don't appear in the wild. You need to finish the quest for the dragon trader in Elis to unlock advanced knowledge of dragons.
Dragonfruit now comes from a single NPC in Elis who only shows up for the first three days of each month, and it is only available for purchase after you complete a quest for him and improve your relationship with him.
On top of that, just seeing one does not give you the knowledge anymore, you need to read the race book.
I resorted to the cheat menu.
Thanks for the info, guess I'll be a Crocodile till completed that lol
 

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As of april the current version of JDK8 also has javafx removed and complicates things. I spent some time trying to find ways to get old versions of java by bypassing oracle and in case it helps anyone heres a link:

Its a github page someone put up the direct download links for a bunch of java versions.
I downloaded JDK 8u202 and while it gives the not correct version error I haven't seen any issues yet.

I also had success getting the game to run on my steam deck.
Download the 64x version for linux and extract it somewhere (I put it in /home/deck/Applications/java/) so when its extracted it will look like this "/home/deck/Applications/java/jdk1.8.0_202"
I set the current directory in the konsole using "cd /home/deck/Downloads/LilithsThrone/" (where i had the LT.jar)
then you can launch LT using that version of java in case you have others still
"/home/deck/Applications/java/jdk1.8.0_202/bin/java -jar LilithsThrone_0_4_11_3.jar"
I got an error( "XSetErrorHandler() called with a GDK error trap pushed. Don't do that" ) in the konsole after launching but I don't think it really means anything I'm not certain.
Game launches and seems to function normally, again aside from the version mismatch on the main menu and the odd error in the konsole.
 
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for me snuff, gore, and all those deranged fetishes is a massive turn-offs so i'm just glad it's not featured in this porn game regardless of how unrealistic it is
I get not wanting snuff, but TBH, there is a middle ground between "bloodsoaked gorefest" and "everyone weapon is a pool noodle". The handwave of "every weapon is actually ethereal and only damages your aura until you fall prey to overwhelming lust" doesn't work since it breaks its own lore. You overwhelm someone with so much lust that they physically can't fight anymore, but they also have strict sexualities that they won't deviate from and will continue to try and resist you if you force yourself on them.
 
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I get not wanting snuff, but TBH, there is a middle ground between "bloodsoaked gorefest" and "everyone weapon is a pool noodle". The handwave of "every weapon is actually ethereal and only damages your aura until you fall prey to overwhelming lust" doesn't work since it breaks its own lore. You overwhelm someone with so much lust that they physically can't fight anymore, but they also have strict sexualities that they won't deviate from and will continue to try and resist you if you force yourself on them.
That can be somewhat handwaved as them getting their head back on straight during sex. And some things just do not feel 'right', regardless of how horned-up you are.
All it would take to change that kind-of-an-inconsistency would be a short-lived debuff that disables struggle commands or removes negative lust gains during sex. But that would not add much at this point besides a month of devtime.
This is just one of those times where verisimilitude makes way for gameplay.
 
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Well, I went through all the content of the Dominion, not counting the sex shop in an elite area, reached the second city of Elice and I was already being sent further to another city. I can assume that I have already seen most of the game's content.

And I can say that the game really lacks something like a magical academy. Such a place would bring a lot of things, it’s not for nothing that it is in a fairly large number of porn games, because educational places are an inexhaustible source for opportunities:
• This is a porn game, and the educational academy gives a lot of space for a wide variety of sex content, from vanilla itself to various fetishes;
• The Magic Academy would give a more logical connection to how MC learn to use magic, learn to enchant objects and prepare alchemical potions for transformation, and especially learn to combat, magic and in melee / long-range, because MC is outside the soldier's background is an ordinary person - a cook, musician, maid, a clerk or a student, but this does not prevent him from very quickly to learn to be a death machine that beats demons; Like, it's can just go perfectly: the lessons of magic, the lessons of enchantment, transformation, melee combat, ranged combat from bows like example;
• the opportunity for the author to create various stories, characters and storylines - filling the world with content and lore;
• Create a situation where the game would make MC wear some specific clothing - educational form, because, having reached Elice, I can almost say that I almost did not notice situations where the game would generally worry about what my character is wearing, and even more so, game does not force me to put on some specific clothes with situation dependence, which is why I almost all time in all quests of the Dominion passed in the same clothes from the beginning of the game, although it seemed changing clothes would be such a great potential for creating sexual tension and sexual situations, like, exactly for what the game has such a detailed clothing system, no? The game should interact more often with this aspect in the plot.

Well, and it seems to me that the Magic Academy would be a fairly popular and favorite place, something that would be much more in demand than some secondary quests with a fairly narrow audience with specific fetishes.

Considering everything that I managed to read here about the frequency of updating the game and the content of these updates, I will probably sound strange, but I just wanted to express my thoughts after the first run on what content would be very relevant for the game.
Interesting idea, but ultimately would not fit, because both game story and game's current mechanics, unfortunately.

-1st is that magic is something widely available to all citizens of Dominion(except humans), to the point that it is sold in the Mall. Why do you need an academy when you can go to the local Mall and find everything you need?

-2nd, the main character starts play in Dominion with an instinctive understanding of magic, whether they know it or not.
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When learning new magic spells, they are able to skip a very large portion of the learning process when learning new spells. This is stated with every spell you learn in the game. It would be like someone who has already graduated high school returning to grade school in order to learn the alphabet or basic addition. It doesn't matter which background you chose, the MC has this instinctual grasp of magic. When they learn a ranged spell, they have the knowledge of how to use it to best advantage. For melee, same thing.

-3rd, the MC lives with one of the foremost experts of magical study in the world. Why would they go to a school teacher when they live with someone who has several PhD's in magical study? They even teach the MC everything they need to know about enchantments and curses and curse breaking.

-4th, for content and lore, there's already TONS of it. It may seem limited,
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Another limiter here is that you would be forcing the player to transform themselves in order to participate in this content. In lore, humans are not capable of using magic and they are looked down on as citizens of Dominion. A magical institute of learning would be very loyal to Lilith(who actively promotes abuse of humans) and not even Lilaya's influence would allow a human to join, especially since it doesn't stop Enforcers from harrasing the MC just for being human.

-and lastly, sorry if all this feels like I'm shitting all over your idea, but clothing already plays a major role in actions/reactions in game. There are circumstances where you are forced to wear certain clothes and Npcs will react to certain clothes as well. If you are wearing clothing that is see-through or completely exposes your bits, Npcs will be turned on easier and increases chance of attack. If you have cumstained clothing, it also increases the chances of you being attacked. Another example: There's the Enforcer's clothing sets and gear. These are considered contraband for anyone not an Enforcer. If an Enforcer finds you wearing or carrying these, you will be 'penalized'.

Again, sorry if it feels like I'm dumping your idea, but I've been playing this for years and can see how Innoxia may weigh what you've presented. Just inserting this in the way you've explained would require the rewrite of alot of lore and plot that is already there. Now, this doesn't mean you can't implement it. There are actually a few "mods" that are actually rewrites of core features of the game. However, I say "mods" in quotations because these are actually seperate versions of the game that mod makers have created. I'd bring it up in discord and see about maybe coordinating with others on this if you'd really like to push ahead on it because yeah... dev-cycle on the game is very slow and Inno is slow to add new actual content. There's already alot of incomplete stuff still present in Dominion before you even leave the city.
 

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Iirc, the Unicorn/Pegasus/Alicorn classses also have some pretty busted stats of like 30 physique and 40 arcane or smt.

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Also, the big panthers (mainly Tiger and Lion) are OP asf
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You are correct, you could even add Wolf morphs to that list as well, they have some pretty potent stats as well.

When I wrote that message, I just didn't want to clutter it up with a lot of 'well this race is really potent' or 'this race is pretty powerful' or 'this other race is rather OP'.
Unless someone has some specific fetish for dragons and dragon morphs, the only reason to TF into one is for the stats and the other races just don't really compare to dragons.

Dragons get something like +60 and +50 to nearly everything and the only race that is even close to dragons are the gryphon morphs, which is why I only mentioned gryphons as an 'OP' species.
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