Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Prawnboy99]

Do you normally change your Win10 display settings (for reading, etc)? There are some options that alter the size of text, apps, or both.

Messed around with it and it seemed to work, thanks!

 

[Sarkath]

Messed around with it and it seemed to work, thanks!

(Not on a Windows box at the moment, so apologies in advance for any inaccuracies!)

If you wanted to be able to freely change your Windows 10 display settings and ensure that Lilith's Throne remains readable, you can change its scaling settings. To do this, right-click on the Lilith's Throne EXE, select "properties," go into the "compatibility" tab, and click on the "high DPI" button. There should be an option near the bottom of the dialog that lets you override the scaling behavior. If you set that to "Application," Windows will let LT handle its own display scaling.

 

[DSGMods]

but what the game needs right now goes beyond of what those templates offer.

I have moved into translating other people's writing into quests and NPCs. It's still side content, but hopefully that will be more palatable.

At this point, the entire system is going to need to be either redesigned from the ground up, or every encounter in the game is going to need to be rebalanced.

And this is only going to be a bigger issue going forward, because it wasn't future proofed at all. There's no built in scaling or progression that'll be easy to work with.

There is little interest in balance, this is true. I gave up a while ago because all combat data is poisoned by exploits so all stats just follow an arbitrary linear progression now. The intent, for now at least, is to balance at the end.

 

[Plumpunikitty]

So, I'm guessing now is not the most appropriate time to talk about a mod that I'm working about.
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Anyway, it's quite a shame to see the game be stagnant for so long. I do hope for the best for Inno and their game.

 

[throbzombie]

So, I'm guessing now is not the most appropriate time to talk about a mod that I'm working about.
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Anyway, it's quite a shame to see the game be stagnant for so long. I do hope for the best for Inno and their game.

Don't be shy.

 

[tehlemon]

I have moved into translating other people's writing into quests and NPCs. It's still side content, but hopefully that will be more palatable.

Dope, nothing wrong with that. The game could use some new, well written quests and NPCs.

There is little interest in balance, this is true. I gave up a while ago because all combat data is poisoned by exploits so all stats just follow an arbitrary linear progression now. The intent, for now at least, is to balance at the end.

And that loops us back around to what I was saying, and the issue this part of the community has taken with the game (so much so that Inno had to boot us all from the blog comments), there's no end in site.

In fact, I'm still not confident that there's *progress* towards the end in site. It's been years. It's been straight up a year of us being told that she's working on the *filler* for the next area. And we're now two months late, past the new estimated release that was already seven months late. And that wasn't even the first estimate. And the last update says she's getting *started* on it...

And the biggest kicker of this all is how incredibly stupid this design approach is. Wait until the end to make the progression and combat systems work? That's absolute insanity. Design your systems to be future proof and scalable from the start, or you're going to have infinitely more work to do later. So much so that we'll likely never see those reworks happen.

I'm someone who loves talking about game design and game writing, and while this is a game I haven't touched in months now, it's one hell of an entertaining train wreck to watch and talk about. Wayyyyy back when I worked retail jobs, I once got featured in a training video for a large "don't do this!" segement. They literally took security footage of me doing something stupid (climbing three-story pallet racking lol) and used it as an example of something you should never do. This game has turned into that, but for game development lol

So, I'm guessing now is not the most appropriate time to talk about a mod that I'm working about.
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Anyway, it's quite a shame to see the game be stagnant for so long. I do hope for the best for Inno and their game.

Fuck no, this is the perfect time. We're going on months with no new content except for a half-assed, half finished romance quest. If people who are still willing don't mod in content, there will never be new content lol

I'm probably the second harshest person here towards the game, and I can say with absolutely certainty that you should feel more than comfortable sharing whatever mod you feel like working on.

 

[Plumpunikitty]

I'll be honest with you guys I just wanted an excuse to post what I said, Seeing you guys where talking mods and knowing DSG lurks around here. I'm away from my Gaming Workstation so I can't really show you what have now. Fortunately I do have these images.

Currently I'm working on a small modpack focusing on Australia.
Originally I was just planning on three races (Kangaroos, "Tasmania Tigers", and Emus). Eventually I decided to add Dingos, Koalas, and Bandicoots (as a joke). Right now I'm working up on fishing the design of the weapons and testing them a bit.

 

[throbzombie]

I'll be honest with you guys I just wanted an excuse to post what I said, Seeing you guys where talking mods and knowing DSG lurks around here. I'm away from my Gaming Workstation so I can't really show you what have now. Fortunately I do have these images.

Uhhh, what are the pics for?

 

[toolkitxx]

And that loops us back around to what I was saying, and the issue this part of the community has taken with the game (so much so that Inno had to boot us all from the blog comments), there's no end in site.

'No end in sight': Same goes for the constant stream of anger, hate and repetition of the same arguments over and over.
For several pages now it has been nothing but repeating each others sentences - just with minor changes in wording. Maybe its time to also create an end to that and get back to some more substantial topics around the game.

 

[tehlemon]

I'll be honest with you guys I just wanted an excuse to post what I said, Seeing you guys where talking mods and knowing DSG lurks around here. I'm away from my Gaming Workstation so I can't really show you what have now. Fortunately I do have these images.

Drop bears with related racial perk or riot.

And I look forward to kukris, boomerangs, and for purely meme purposes/silly mode giant darts and piss jars.

Uhhh, what are the pics for?

Ready the blurb at the bottom of the spoiler lol

'No end in sight': Same goes for the constant stream of anger, hate and repetition of the same arguments over and over.
For several pages now it has been nothing but repeating each others sentences - just with minor changes in wording. Maybe its time to also create an end to that and get back to some more substantial topics around the game.

Yeah, it's kind of like there hasn't been any updates in months.

Got anything new you'd like to talk about? Like I said, I'm always down to discuss writing and design. And answer question, but that's not really discussion worthy.

 

[Plumpunikitty]

Uhhh, what are the pics for?

Oh, I accidentally omitted, that those where some of things that inspired me.

 

[Sarkath]

Oh, I accidentally omitted, that those where some of things that inspired me.

I might be showing my age a little here, but I wish more games/mods were inspired by UT2004 maps.

 

[tehlemon]

I might be showing my age a little here, but I wish more games/mods were inspired by UT2004 maps.

Definitely not just you. UT2k4 was the fucking best.

 

[IvoryOwl]

'No end in sight': Same goes for the constant stream of anger, hate and repetition of the same arguments over and over.
For several pages now it has been nothing but repeating each others sentences - just with minor changes in wording. Maybe its time to also create an end to that and get back to some more substantial topics around the game.

Uhhh... have you missed the part where people talked about the code and working on their own branches of the game, namely to clean house and improve performance? Aside from that... what else are we supposed to talk about? The game hasn't really made any significant progress in several months. The new updates are just more of the same - still more stuff getting prioritized over the Fields. Now it's PRs. I don't want to be rude but it's kind of hard to come up with something new to discuss when there's really no "trigger" for it.

The anger is not going to dissipate until Inno actually does something to earn people's respect again. And that's all I'm saying on the matter.

Alternatively, instead of adding more wood to the fire - maybe bring something to the discussion? Try to steer it in the direction you want? Do you have suggestions or ideas? Maybe some bug reports? Want to join the "technicals" and drop your wisdom on how to improve the code? The world is your oyster.

 

[Plumpunikitty]

Drop bears with related racial perk or riot.

DSG already made bears, unless you were referring to something else.

I might be showing my age a little here, but I wish more games/mods were inspired by UT2004 maps.

Definitely not just you. UT2k4 was the fucking best.

I managed to get a copy of UT2k4 way past its prime, I think a decade ago. So I missed out on a lot of stuff. A good chunk of my inspiration/ideas came from the Ty the Tasmanian Tiger series. Then UT2K4 and smudge of Kao The Kangaroo.

 

[crash.7ds]

Speaking of the technical side of things, has there been any real headway in regard to the performance? The game's ran like Sims 3 since back when the staring area was randomly generated.

 

[NODOGAN]

I'll be honest with you guys I just wanted an excuse to post what I said, Seeing you guys where talking mods and knowing DSG lurks around here. I'm away from my Gaming Workstation so I can't really show you what have now. Fortunately I do have these images.

Them Koala's poison shielding is gonna be high af lol

 

[anubis1970]

Plumpunikitty I think he was alluding to Koalas. I seem to recall reading a joke article a couple of years ago about Koalas going nuts at certain times of the year and dropping onto unsuspecting people and mauling them.

 

[Sarkath]

Speaking of the technical side of things, has there been any real headway in regard to the performance? The game's ran like Sims 3 since back when the staring area was randomly generated.

I'm working on some performance improvements. I have a couple of write-ups (with GitHub links) here:

Status effect update deferral: https://f95zone.to/threads/liliths-throne-v0-3-20-innoxia.3564/post-5475906
Saved game optimization: https://f95zone.to/threads/liliths-throne-v0-3-20-innoxia.3564/post-5483545

I'm planning to open pull requests upstream after I do some more testing and verification.

The anger is not going to dissipate until Inno actually does something to earn people's respect again. And that's all I'm saying on the matter.

I think the anger more or less turned to apathy at this point. The past few pages have been pretty tame compared to the firestorm from about a month or so ago.

 

[tehlemon]

DSG already made bears, unless you were referring to something else.

Drop Bears are a fictional species from australia just to mess with those people who believe animals are crazy in australia. Think koalas that wait for you to walk under them, and then they drop on you and eat your face. Hence the name lol

Plumpunikitty I think he was alluding to Koalas. I seem to recall reading a joke article a couple of years ago about Koalas going nuts at certain times of the year and dropping onto unsuspecting people and mauling them.

Yeah sorta. Except in this case it's just a fictional species made up to mess with people who think Australia's animals are super crazy