Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Carl0sDanger]

You should try to be more diligent, if you do the "supplier's issues" quest, you get free cloths every day, even if it is 1 or 2 scraps of cloths. Its good cause you can make class setups with extra cloths you may find and even dye them.

Before you give out lectures on diligence ...

A couple days in and you should have a basic dairy setup happening (ie. one bedroom, one milking room, four slaves). At that point, money is irrelevant: you'll have millions coming in every day. Sure, you need a bit of cash to set it up, but you'll pick that up incidentally while you're fucking your way to lvl 50 in the Submission tunnels. Get the OLD Perk, beat up Imp patrols, take their money and more valuable stuff (leader's weapons and jewelry, 2IC's transformation potion) then fuck them. Rinse and repeat.

There's just no need for an early game money exploit. I mean, sure, free clothes + free enchantment = free money. You're not wrong there. There's just such an overwhelmingly better option that I can't see the point.

 

[NODOGAN]

There's just no need for an early game money exploit. I mean, sure, free clothes + free enchantment = free money. You're not wrong there. There's just such an overwhelmingly better option that I can't see the point.

pretty much yeah, hell i don't even need to do this in Submission, just taking everything from the random enemies that is worth more than 300 flames is more than enough for me to make around 80.000 flames by the time i go to sell it to the NPCs at the Arcade, all of this on DAY 1.
P.S: anyone else having the issue of their children appearing when it hasn't been longer than a single day? i swear last time i did this method i ran into 3 of my children even thought i couldn't have fucked their mothers longer than 4 hours ago (in-game hours that is) made me take the [Sterile] perk just to avoid the nuisance, highly recomend for when you're doing the orgasmic drain method for leveling up!

 

[wickermayne]

How's the incest content in the game at the moment? Last time I played was probably a year ago and I remember you could get your children into the same housing as you. Did Lilith add anything significant since then?

 

[DirtyMare88]

How's the incest content in the game at the moment? Last time I played was probably a year ago and I remember you could get your children into the same housing as you. Did Lilith add anything significant since then?

I mean, it exists, and they children recognize your related and will comment on it in sex. Assuming you both have incest perk...don't know what happens if you don't.

My current mansion is filled with 1 of each species, so like 30 slaves, all my daughters (except for bree I guess)
Since they all have the "incest" fetish themselves, they tend to pair off on there own little affairs, it's kinda cute in a horrible way.
If you are a good person, and feel morally conflicted about the idea of enslaving your own children, you can also invite them to just move into the mansion and kind of bum of you and the aunt. It's not a profitable option, as you can't milk them like you would if you enslaved them though

 

[a3on]

is pepperball grenade launcher (ranged weapon, illegal) dropped anywhere?
tried one with debug menu, it's bananas, lol

 

[throbzombie]

Honestly, everything in the game is so badly balanced that I don't think class even matters. Unless you're intentionally trying to make the game as hard as possible for yourself, the game is trivially easy to break on any class.

The combat system really doesn't bring anything to the table; it really makes me wonder why there even is one.

 

[tehlemon]

How's the incest content in the game at the moment? Last time I played was probably a year ago and I remember you could get your children into the same housing as you. Did Lilith add anything significant since then?

Literally nothing has changed on that front in a year, sorry.

The combat system really doesn't bring anything to the table; it really makes me wonder why there even is one.

I mean, I'm 99% sure it was supposed to be a placeholder system. But the odds of it getting replaced now are like, zero.

It's a really shitty system. But making a good system is hard. Trust me, I'm literally trying to do that now, and it's hard lol

 

[BaloneyAmone]

is pepperball grenade launcher (ranged weapon, illegal) dropped anywhere?
tried one with debug menu, it's bananas, lol

I think some SWORD guys might have it, and you can buy it from the weapon vendor that gets unlocked after you finish the one Enforcer quest after the Harpy Nests.

 

[a3on]

I think some SWORD guys might have it, and you can buy it from the weapon vendor that gets unlocked after you finish the one Enforcer quest after the Harpy Nests.

wait, which vendor is this? Vicky? or the one with the rat lady in submission?

you can't loot the SWORD guys apparently. though you can `steal` their stuff with spells. and i've only seen one of them that has it (and it's also the lesser version of the gun)

 

[throbzombie]

wait, which vendor is this? Vicky? or the one with the rat lady in submission?

you can't loot the SWORD guys apparently. though you can `steal` their stuff with spells. and i've only seen one of them that has it (and it's also the lesser version of the gun)

I think he's talking about the weapons vendor at the police station that's unlocked after completing the Enforcer's quest.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

wait, which vendor is this? Vicky? or the one with the rat lady in submission?

you can't loot the SWORD guys apparently. though you can `steal` their stuff with spells. and i've only seen one of them that has it (and it's also the lesser version of the gun)

I think he's talking about the weapons vendor at the police station that's unlocked after completing the Enforcer's quest.

Yeah, I'm talking about The Rogue Enforcer quest. I was actually wrong, it's not available from them, so I don't think it's currently obtainable.

 

[[Mister_Arch]]

Great game idea and even better gameplay

 

[Deleted member 205119]

Tell Claire about your findings so far.

i figured it out, apparently I still hadn't had my first encounter with a slime i needed to progress the quest because i was staying out of encounter tiles. Thank you.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

The combat system really doesn't bring anything to the table; it really makes me wonder why there even is one.

Because there's conflict in the game. There's got to be something, even a placeholder (which the current system most definitely started as).

I personally think that Inno would be well-served to question whether her choice of the "Captain Planet" elements is really the best way to go. For instance, if all weapons do damage to the target's aura, then why do you need forceful, flaming, freezing and poisoned weapons? The target isn't actually being cut, burned, frozen or poisoned. Just have weapon damage.

This division isn't even appropriate for magic. To belabor a point, if your "Fireball" damages your opponent's aura and doesn't actually burn them, in what sense is it even a Fireball? Have magic that actually fits with the whole non-lethal combat thing. Enchantments, illusions, transformations (imagine the Flash spell reflavoured as the caster temporarily transforming away their opponent's eyes), summoning, curses.

And of course, the outcast of the combat system: lust damage. The simple fact that a lust-damage based combatant is best served concentrating on magic (ie. the magic lust attack is better than the lust lust attack) should be enough to show how broken it is.

This is why I am so pissed off when Inno devotes time to tinkering with combat or magic. The whole thing's going to have to be overhauled anyway. Just get the main story in place with the current placeholder system, work out the final confrontation, then work out combat and magic and Perks and balancing then.

 

[Deleted member 3541029]

Great game idea and even better gameplay

Well it's not a new ideas and gameplay.
All elements aside from plot (even UI, that makes me wonder - why Inno copied that freaky button system from TiTs? It was made for Flash game and was appropriate there, but why using it in Java project i cannot imagine) are taken from other projects like CoC, TiTs, SfP 1.

 

[AGiantRainbowSpaceWhale]

Well it's not a new ideas and gameplay.
All elements aside from plot (even UI, that makes me wonder - why Inno copied that freaky button system from TiTs? It was made for Flash game and was appropriate there, but why using it in Java project I cannot imagine) are taken from other projects like CoC, TiTs, SfP 1.

I'm curious as to what you think would be a better alternative? Personally, I think the buttons work pretty well, but if you have any alternatives please share them!

 

[IvoryOwl]

Because there's conflict in the game. There's got to be something, even a placeholder (which the current system most definitely started as).

I personally think that Inno would be well-served to question whether her choice of the "Captain Planet" elements is really the best way to go. For instance, if all weapons do damage to the target's aura, then why do you need forceful, flaming, freezing and poisoned weapons? The target isn't actually being cut, burned, frozen or poisoned. Just have weapon damage.

This division isn't even appropriate for magic. To belabor a point, if your "Fireball" damages your opponent's aura and doesn't actually burn them, in what sense is it even a Fireball? Have magic that actually fits with the whole non-lethal combat thing. Enchantments, illusions, transformations (imagine the Flash spell reflavoured as the caster temporarily transforming away their opponent's eyes), summoning, curses.

And of course, the outcast of the combat system: lust damage. The simple fact that a lust-damage based combatant is best served concentrating on magic (ie. the magic lust attack is better than the lust lust attack) should be enough to show how broken it is.

This is why I am so pissed off when Inno devotes time to tinkering with combat or magic. The whole thing's going to have to be overhauled anyway. Just get the main story in place with the current placeholder system, work out the final confrontation, then work out combat and magic and Perks and balancing then.

Now that I think about it, you have a point... It feels like she decided to add a bunch of RPG elements just because they are a staple in most RPG games. It really doesn't fit the setting nor the lore aside from flavor and giving the illusion of creating a personalized character build. This is yet another feature of the game that sooner or later needs to be revamped (again). Just like the whole fetish thing, which ATM doesn't really do much. And all the other shallow systems that went nowhere.

Inno needs to stop and take a good look at the overall state of the game and the product she wants to deliver because even though this is an alpha, LT has been in development for 5 years and we still have a lot of basic systems as placeholders. You can't build good walls on shaky foundations. She needs to think long-term.

 

[tehlemon]

Now that I think about it, you have a point... It feels like she decided to add a bunch of RPG elements just because they are a staple in most RPG games. It really doesn't fit the setting nor the lore aside from flavor and giving the illusion of creating a personalized character build. This is yet another feature of the game that sooner or later needs to be revamped (again). Just like the whole fetish thing, which ATM doesn't really do much. And all the other shallow systems that went nowhere.

Inno needs to stop and take a good look at the overall state of the game and the product she wants to deliver because even though this is an alpha, LT has been in development for 5 years and we still have a lot of basic systems as placeholders. You can't build good walls on shaky foundations. She needs to think long-term.

Don't worry, she'll take six weeks off to think about it. Then a couple weeks off because she was stressed about being six weeks behind. Then we'll spend four months of silence while she's reworking a simple system only to have anyone who understands what's happening realize that the hard systems are never going to....

We've already done all this.

I think the best we can hope for is that we actually get game content, because unless contributors fix all those systems they're not going to be fixed.

 

[Deleted member 3541029]

I'm curious as to what you think would be a better alternative? Personally, I think the buttons work pretty well, but if you have any alternatives please share them!

Well, for example, using context menu (right-click) for items or clothing would be nice.

 

[AGiantRainbowSpaceWhale]

Don't worry, she'll take six weeks off to think about it. Then a couple weeks off because she was stressed about being six weeks behind. Then we'll spend four months of silence while she's reworking a simple system only to have anyone who understands what's happening realize that the hard systems are never going to....

We've already done all this.

I think the best we can hope for is that we actually get game content, because unless contributors fix all those systems they're not going to be fixed.

Lmao at this point I'm tempted to learn how to program (more than just the rudimentary garbage I currently know) just to spite Innoxia and make a better version of their game in half the time. It would be incredibly petty, but I'm very, VERY tempted to do it. At the same time though, my ADD ass probably couldn't focus on a task like that for longer than a few hours without getting distracted lmao.