oh i didn't understand that. will the public get a delayed access to that eventually? also, will this game end up on steam when finished? was aura?
The steam page is already up, for what its worth at this point, Aura was released on steam, though you needed to download a separate lewd patch for it, IIRC.
As for content, obviously there are gonna be more releases between now and project completion, which will presumably either leak or become public releases eventually.
Game really feels like it needs 3 cycles in the day (mourning, afternoon, night) instead of just the mourning and afternoon. Being able to only really do one thing after the combat feels really restrictive.
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It would also help if instead of fighting we could do some activities, even a limited few, like why can't I forgo adventure to read and boost my stats. It isn't like a shop with "hours"
though I agree with the general sentiment that an additional action would be great.
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If it goes anything like SKA did then the prerelease content (which usually comes out every week of Liora dev work since development is split with SKA) usually doesn't make it here. But the end of month releases almost inevitable show up here. within a day. So patreon supporters still get a kind of early access for their support.
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You can work for Edgar in the morning for a small amount of money instead of going to a dungeon.
I keep running into this bug now. Anyone else? I just negotiated with Edgar, it's the start of day 3.
Premise sounds amazing. Very much looking forward where this goes.
Probably gonna hold off on trying it out till a later release.
Probably gonna hold off on trying it out till a later release.
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Dunno if the fixed version has still been updated to this thread,
Go to itch.io and download the free demo from there.
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True, but it really is small. And if I can do that work why can't i read? It's not really adequately explained. I fully get a shop not being open. That's immersive enough. But the books stretch it a bit. It also would help the mid game where it really feels like a struggle to get strong enough if you could have Rean do something in the morning.
I plowed through on willpower and save scumming but it's hard to keep Rean and Liora competitive in rank 4 dungeons without spending the better part of a week taking a day or 2 to hunt then half the week to recover HP and spend any boss mats to boost stats. But that gets harder because the price goes up too. And mining costs so much HP you can only feasibly do it on days you have already cleared the adds but don't plan on fighting the boss. Meaning you earn almost nothing those days. Just whatever scraps you forgot to grab previously.
The reason is mostly because the management would get out of hand. Working for Edgar and going into a dungeon are party activities, reading is a single person activity. If Liora can read a book, what do Edgar and Rean do during that time slot? Needing to manage the activities in two timeslots per day seems like it would create a lot of complications while not being particularly fun.
Keep in mind that when you work for Edgar, the other 75% don't go puff into air, it's money added into his pocket that you can get back via negotiations.
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Then how about turning reading into a group activity in the morning? This allows the entire party to get stronger together. Also it would allow hidden NTR scenarios and potentially change the relationship values.
Rean being book dumb I can see Edgar giving some insulting comments and Liora being forced to laugh if they were all together.
That could work as long is it's limited to books that everyone has the prereqs for and has not yet read.
Othweise, it would create too many edge cases.
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But it still VERY restrictive and not really fun, what you have SO much what takes time, to do on only one slot.
Even compared to Aura game, here you have: Shop upgrade, Book, Training, Negotiation, Just spending time. And all of this takes time slot, and not always it's justified. You need my weapon to infuse it? Fine, why can't I go read a book or on a date in that time? You wait days to get debuff removed, spend days training, spend days reading, spend days upgrading, and the problem of time always bites you in the ass to remind you to clear faster, because treatment day and prestige and all that. Not to mention what if you dare to fuck up once, debuff you get is not quite light, and you either spend few days recovering all that lost progress (and removing it, and upgrading yourself more), or go savescum, what is again - not "particularly fun" either imo.
"If Liora can read a book, what do Edgar and Rean do during that time slot?" idk, anything?. Rean is taking a break/training and Edgar planning his evil evils and dreaming of Liora or smth. This is not a restriction what she reads alone tbh, you don't need to give them anything for that time spend
I'm not someone who will go serious in to builds and combat and stuff, I can still cheat and enjoy the game and stuff I want but... I don't think this is a solution for any non "hardcore" build builder players and intended that way. Even for casual play all that is a little bit TOO restrictive, to the point what even playing for "corruption" part, game does not forgive you any mistake, and not like this is some rogue-like game to retry it over and over until you figure out the exact intended pattern to progress.
Yes, you have a lot of choice per time slot. If you could do everything, there wouldn't be much of a trade-off to do one action over the other. Note that ingame days is just an abstract resource, you don't have to go to bed in real life when you end the game in-game.
So whether you spend 2 or 4 days ingame really just has an impact on how fast you progress towards the non-corruption part versus the corruption part of the game.
If you are playing casually, there isn't much of a need for optimize time - taking longer, getting defeated in battle, allows you to fail forward on the corruption through clause triggers, morning proposals, rean decay progression, etc.
Personally, I'm more worried about having a sufficient number of ingame days so you can roleplay a slowburn corruption of the heroine without needing to purposefully lose or otherwise play overly stupid.
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But point stands. There woldn't be, if the game didn't punish you so severely, and futher restricted you to neglect those punishes. If you defeated in battles, you just wait days because of how strong debuffs are, while you wait, you lose prestige (and, unless this is just a meaningless number, you don't want to do that), at the same time, you basically lose one member because of how useless Rean become, even with training, because of the debuffs, what WOULD BE FINE, IF there would be options to "build" Edgar through corruption and contract clauses to progress and eventually finish the game that way. But so far from what ppl say and from what I see - he is uterlly useless, with a lot of clauses what makes him just an afk bot (and what he offers you A LOT of time in the morning, and you just forced to skip those propositions), I know it's demo and all that, all of this restrictions even now feel a bit like a chore imo.
While you fail forward in the corruption, you just stuck in place gaining nothing out of it (exept well, gold I guess, what you barely can spend on something usefull), drawing in debuffs what futher, will make you just harder and harder to proseed with anything, AND it all is barely can be prevented, because of how game restricts you with all of this by time.
So... fuck ppl who can't from the get go figure out how to optimally play, and know exactly what to do so they can do that?
Strange change from SkA, but ok (Sorry, I don't think not being able to figure out the exact ways to build character to fight with right orders and abilities, to not get soft locked and punished by the game, when there is SO many of them, as being "overly stupid" ).It might be fun fore some hardcore players to figure that out, but can overly stupid plebs like me, maybe get an easier difficulty in the future, what won't softlock you over time with so much debuffs, so we could "roleplay a slowburn corruption of the heroine"?
If you 'build' him correctly with contract he quickly becomes very useful. Try builing him towards tanking damage in first turns and then attacks once conditions are met.
I haven't figured out the best contracts to go with, but yeah, tanking damage on turn 1-2/3 seems like the way to go, for minor bossfights anyhow.
I'm thinking something like learning Light and Thunderbolt with Liora and have Edgar attack Liora's last target whenever she gains advantage.