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PaleGrass

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When are we gonna See Lisa Like This ,Mate? View attachment 1739799
I don't think 2 men would be quite enough for Lisa :(


We'll be stirring in some black love for Lisa real soon ;)


Well, yes, it would be pretty far out there for Paul or his buddies to have access to a pillory. I mean, even if their sexual education through online porn included a lot of BDSM, there's still the problem of getting the actual pillory. If you can't make it yourself, which requires a lot of carpentry skill, then they're both hard to find and quite expensive for a handful of kids. Even semi-decent pillories cost around $500 USD, and a good one will probably be upwards of $1000. I'm guessing that Paul and his buddies wouldn't spend that kind of money on it, even if they could afford it by pooling their money. Most guys that age aren't going to choose a pillory over a PS5.

But going back to my suggestion that the scene should be of Lisa with some more dangerous people, such as Tony's gang, it wouldn't be at all unrealistic for a man with Tony's resources to buy something like that, or to have it custom made for him by an artisan. And it might be the sort of thing that he keeps in his basement for "questioning", or for "training", or for "correction".

Obviously, if you were to go that route, it would fall more into the category of forced content. But I've already gone on record as saying that I hope that we'll see more forced content, and even additional rape scenes, before the story reaches its end. But, since you've made that content optional in the past, it would probably have to be a scene which was part of Tony's storyline, but not an essential part of the story - something which could be skipped by those who don't want such things to happen to Lisa. That is, assuming that you were to continue to make such content optional, which seems like a good idea to me.
Yeah I totally agree bud. It'd certainly fall into the more "sinister content" criteria and would then of course be optional ^_^


That sounds like Rubbins
Damn I can't wait to get back to Rubbins.. xD
 

Runner17

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Man this game is kicking my butt. I like strong a FP, who make there own choices. Love the females in the game (y) , but the dark path is pulling me down (nice job).

The little creep Paul is successfully doing what he suppose to, even thou I want to beat his ass! Stayed away from that path and it will cost me.

Thank you, PaleGrass for giving up the options to stay away from the darker paths.

One more question for the players, I went the sharing route but Danny is turning out to be a jerk, did anybody try the cheating path and how was it?
 
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Geko1711

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Yeah I totally agree bud. It'd certainly fall into the more "sinister content" criteria and would then of course be optional ^_^
In my opinion you could put the pillory in the context of a school trip to a museum in Renshire displaying various ancient medieval torture devices, Lisa is the chaperone and assistant to the students which includes Paul and his friends who could take revenge for the teasing with Lucas and this is where Paul's blackmail starts and forces Lisa immobilized in the pillory, so if you wanted the pillory at the end it wouldn't be so out of place.
 

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In my opinion you could put the pillory in the context of a school trip to a museum in Renshire displaying various ancient medieval torture devices, Lisa is the chaperone and assistant to the students which includes Paul and his friends who could take revenge for the teasing with Lucas and this is where Paul's blackmail starts and forces Lisa immobilized in the pillory, so if you wanted the pillory at the end it wouldn't be so out of place.
Well that's A good idea,But you can't have Anything That is Kinda Skin show in it!probably a demonstration but no nudity in it kinda Stuff!

Well If Paul and His Friends force her for a weekend outing like that you could find Something like it!!But since Paul is Just a side Content i hope giving too much importance is too much a waste to the actual story!

Probably Paul will fit with contents in and around the house,or like the park stuffs!
 

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Well that's A good idea,But you can't have Anything That is Kinda Skin show in it!probably a demonstration but no nudity in it kinda Stuff!

Well If Paul and His Friends force her for a weekend outing like that you could find Something like it!!But since Paul is Just a side Content i hope giving too much importance is too much a waste to the actual story!

Probably Paul will fit with contents in and around the house,or like the park stuffs!
Paul can't invite Lisa anywhere initially, but only force her to go, because from the very beginning, like a cat with a dog...
 

TheLecher

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In my opinion you could put the pillory in the context of a school trip to a museum in Renshire displaying various ancient medieval torture devices, Lisa is the chaperone and assistant to the students which includes Paul and his friends who could take revenge for the teasing with Lucas and this is where Paul's blackmail starts and forces Lisa immobilized in the pillory, so if you wanted the pillory at the end it wouldn't be so out of place.
Well that's A good idea,But you can't have Anything That is Kinda Skin show in it!probably a demonstration but no nudity in it kinda Stuff!

Well If Paul and His Friends force her for a weekend outing like that you could find Something like it!!But since Paul is Just a side Content i hope giving too much importance is too much a waste to the actual story!

Probably Paul will fit with contents in and around the house,or like the park stuffs!
Yeah, I suppose you could do that, but personally, I think that the pillory has potential for a much more dramatic scene, with much more serious characters. As fun as the Paul content is, and as much as I hope to see it continue, he and his buddies are just pansy-ass small fries. If Lisa is going to be stuck in a pillory, then let it be with someone whose malevolent intent is worthy of a medieval torture device, since that's what a pillory actually is.
 

Jpalvim

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Players should not force the author to follow the plot of his will, and leave him free to follow his inspiration. I understand that, in this way, the story would be more honest, not getting lost in meaningless narrative arcs. I see many games following the wishes of their sponsors, and the author giving in to this pressure for financial reasons. This is just constructive criticism, not intended to attack anyone.
 

TheLecher

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Players should not force the author to follow the plot of his will, and leave him free to follow his inspiration. I understand that, in this way, the story would be more honest, not getting lost in meaningless narrative arcs. I see many games following the wishes of their sponsors, and the author giving in to this pressure for financial reasons. This is just constructive criticism, not intended to attack anyone.
Fortunately, no one is able to force the author to follow their wills. As for leaving him free to follow his inspiration, of course he's free, but he's also interested in feedback and suggestions from his supporters. He has always been interested in feedback and suggestions. The choice of what suggestions to implement, and to what extent to implement them, is still with him. No one should be hesitant to give their input, and no one should be surprised or offended if he doesn't use that input.

The most "constructive" comment you could make here would be to offer a suggestion or some feedback of your own, or to agree or disagree with someone else's suggestion and give your reasons why. Of course, you can make arguments against people contributing, since you have the same right to make whatever comment you please that everyone else has, but I don't see how arguing against contributing to the conversation is constructive.
 

Jpalvim

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Fortunately, no one is able to force the author to follow their wills. As for leaving him free to follow his inspiration, of course he's free, but he's also interested in feedback and suggestions from his supporters. He has always been interested in feedback and suggestions. The choice of what suggestions to implement, and to what extent to implement them, is still with him. No one should be hesitant to give their input, and no one should be surprised or offended if he doesn't use that input.

The most "constructive" comment you could make here would be to offer a suggestion or some feedback of your own, or to agree or disagree with someone else's suggestion and give your reasons why. Of course, you can make arguments against people contributing, since you have the same right to make whatever comment you please that everyone else has, but I don't see how arguing against contributing to the conversation is constructive.
I said this because I realized that, in many games, the narrative line has taken a meaningless turn that doesn't fit the essence of the main story. But it's my perception, I could be wrong, and again, I don't want to give a negative review to anyone specifically. It's just my opinion of how the game could flow more naturally. In my view, the author already has an idea of the game's story in his mind, and it's probably structured and organized. When he tries to include narrative arcs outside of what he envisioned, the story gets a little lost and meaningless.
 
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Love the update! If palegrass is open to some input, I'd like to see the MC embrace deviance a little more. Like the old guy who was groping in the locked park... she should have let him (or give the player the choice). Maybe she could even tell Danny about it? It's an adult game after all! I like the direction a lot of these little scenes start but they seem to end with her being a bit of a prude. The Moddy's scene was awesome though! Can't wait to see the other option.


Just my opinion! Loving the game, keep it up.
 
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TheLecher

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I said this because I realized that, in many games, the narrative line has taken a meaningless turn that doesn't fit the essence of the main story. But it's my perception, I could be wrong, and again, I don't want to give a negative review to anyone specifically. It's just my opinion of how the game could flow more naturally. In my view, the author already has an idea of the game's story in his mind, and it's probably structured and organized. When he tries to include narrative arcs outside of what he envisioned, the story gets a little lost and meaningless.
Sure, there are games that get derailed, permanently in some cases, because the developer is chasing top-tier subscriber bucks, but that's the choice of the individual developer. Some developers may feel that their best bet to complete their game is to do scenes "on commission", as it were. Personally, I prefer it when the developer has a clear vision for his or her story and sticks to it, which seems to be what you're saying that you prefer. But, even when the developer sticks to his or her own plan for the story, he or she can still accept feedback and suggestions from the supporters, and can implement quite a few of them without seriously derailing the story.

PaleGrass is a developer who has always been open to input from his supporters, and even from players who don't give financial support. But he also clearly has a plan for where the story is going, and he is unquestionably advancing the storyline according to that plan with every update. Since you aren't going to change the fact that he is a developer who is interested in player feedback, and you aren't going to change the fact that we make suggestions, you might as well trust his judgement and join in the process.

Love the update! If palegrass is open to some input, I'd like to see the MC embrace deviance a little more. Like the old guy who was groping in the locked park... she should have let him (or give the player the choice). Maybe she could even tell Danny about it? It's an adult game after all! I like the direction a lot of these little scenes start but they seem to end with her being a bit of a prude. The Moddy's scene was awesome though! Can't wait to see the other option.
Maybe the old guy from the park will appear again later? I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it. And, since the game has a deviancy score for Lisa, I'm pretty sure that you can count on her becoming increasingly sluttish as things continue to progress, not that we haven't seen plenty of slutty behavior from her already.
 

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Yeah, I suppose you could do that, but personally, I think that the pillory has potential for a much more dramatic scene, with much more serious characters. As fun as the Paul content is, and as much as I hope to see it continue, he and his buddies are just pansy-ass small fries. If Lisa is going to be stuck in a pillory, then let it be with someone whose malevolent intent is worthy of a medieval torture device, since that's what a pillory actually is.
I partly agree with the potential that the pillory could have for scenes that are more sadistic than dramatic, but I would like to point out that the pillory as a medieval tool punished the condemned person from the upper part of the body, that is: neck, head and face and the hands, which received from insults to rotten eggs and vegetables, to spitting and throwing excrement. It is we, the perverts of modern times, who would like to use it to hit other parts of the body, (it is not that I would not like it). In fact, it was only a clarification of the real use of the pillory in the Middle Ages and in Latin it derives the word "shame" of the one who received the punishment.
 

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I partly agree with the potential that the pillory could have for scenes that are more sadistic than dramatic, but I would like to point out that the pillory as a medieval tool punished the condemned person from the upper part of the body, that is: neck, head and face and the hands, which received from insults to rotten eggs and vegetables, to spitting and throwing excrement. It is we, the perverts of modern times, who would like to use it to hit other parts of the body, (it is not that I would not like it). In fact, it was only a clarification of the real use of the pillory in the Middle Ages and in Latin it derives the word "shame" of the one who received the punishment.
You're right that the primary function of a pillory was public humiliation. However, people were also flogged and otherwise beaten in pillories. In some documented cases, people were even branded, and there is at least one documented case from the late medieval period in England when a man had his ears cut off while he was in the pillory. And, even if there was no other "torture" for some people, the muscle cramping which often resulted from being locked in that position for what was at least an entire day, and often a period of a few days, was no laughing matter. I wasn't speaking lightly when I called it a medieval torture device, and I'm fairly well versed on medieval history.

Also, the etymology of the word does trace back to Latin, as you say, but the Latin word (pila) actually means "pillar", not "shame", because the frame which held the hands and head was usually mounted on top of a pillar or post.
 
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