RPGM Lisa [v3.0.5] [PaleGrass]
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- Apr 9, 2018
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Well... you can shelve the game for now then? I mean you can actually stay loyal to Danny by avoiding any cheating/sharing choices and pretty much can have your cake. Almost nil couple like acts happen so... Lisa would be essentially single in your playthrough for the most part. Just don't complain about being unsatisfied after eating that cake, as the portion will be VERY small. Afterall, the game is a WIP. But hey! Just because the Cheating Route is being developed right now, doesn't mean single route would not be possible down the line.
Patience is all I can recommend you at this point.
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I mean, she's apparently on her way to becoming a drug-addicted whore based on one use of weed and one use of MDMA, so realism isn't really a priority for Lisa's reactions to things. "Way too deep in the porn" is her Myers-Briggs personality type.
PG's going to have to invent a magical mind control object to explain her emotional responses the way the dude writing "The Office Wife" did.
- Nov 21, 2018
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Are you trying to track her reactions outside of Paul's blackmail content? If so, then you need to understand the practical impact of having optional content in a game which is not primarily focused on that content. You can't have Lisa reacting to Paul's blackmail outside of that plotline, or it forces that story into the game for people who chose to skip that content. The developer also can't pause the other plotlines, so content in which she is enjoying herself has to continue alongside the blackmail content without bleed-over. This means that, for the sake of the ongoing development of the game, a certain amount of realism has to be sacrificed. There's no use crying about it.
As far as her being able to regain her composure enough to keep what happened to her hidden from Sharon, that's something which happens in the real world fairly often. There are a lot of people who get raped and manage to keep it hidden from the people around them, including their close friends and families.
That being said, Lisa wasn't able to remain composed enough to completely conceal from Sharon that something had happened. Or did you not play through their ride home from the cinema? Lisa gets into the car with a tear streaked face and her mascara in a mess. Her responses are slow and halting, like she's in shock. And Sharon picks up on it immediately and wants to know what's wrong, saying that Lisa is scaring her. But Lisa manages to pass it all off as the fallout from a big fight with Danny, which satisfies Sharon, and they move on. This is not only realistic, but it's something which has actually happened multiple times in the real world, changing the details, of course.
And within the Paul blackmail plotline, what response were you expecting from Lisa? You seem to think that "I hate him!" is completely inadequate. Were you perhaps expecting her to murder him in his sleep? Things like that do happen, but if you want to talk about being realistic, it's far more common in cases of rape by an acquaintance that the victim will continue to interact with the rapist in their daily life while concealing what happened from everyone else. If you think otherwise, then a quick search of the available data should clear things up for you. Perhaps you're the one who is wayy too deep in fiction. You do know, don't you, that I Spit on Your Grave is not a true story?
- Nov 16, 2019
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Hopefully we will see more rape scenes, blackmail and some good black couch casting for this slut
Hi, every buddy played Lisa v2.82, i find after playing Jayce party, I am struck again
After kissing Jayce and back to floor, until the alert message shows
after saving, I cannot find any place I can go, is all content is finsihed???
After kissing Jayce and back to floor, until the alert message shows
after saving, I cannot find any place I can go, is all content is finsihed???
I think PaleGrass not to impose too much rape scene, blackmail, or PLAYER can have choice. (Actual choice I mean), Rather, just like a game called "INSIDE JENNIFER"
Player as Jennifer can have 13 ending to choose, dirty scenes like triple penetration, double penetration etc.
A typical exciting but extremely bad ending as Jennifer break up with boyfriend to be wife-slave to villian cast Jimmy, Jimmy share her with friend and Jenneifer become his baby-making machine (Sex scene of Jennifer with rounded belly is super hot!)
To most girl, this is a BAD ending in extreme!
However, this bad ending is avoidable if Jennifer choose to hide herself from the spot, and even she can report to Police to arrest Jimmy,
PEOPLE will ACCEPT the so-called "RAPE", "BLACKMAIL" only if they have CHOICE
SO, I really suggest IF PalGrass is going to ADD forced sex scene (maybe thinking what's IF NOT option)
take a example, Lisa drink 3 glass of wine in BAR, can she run away from Duncan? Shout for Help?
I bet Lisa ready to have sex with Duncan and black stud, but can she reject to OLD GUY in men toilet?
I BET most player hate FORCED sex for creepy old guy with Lisa who follow them into toilet behind, and show no respect to Lisa, so what if Lisa can have CHOICE?
- Nov 16, 2019
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Choice choice choice.. good 2023 buzzword..
I wonder, if the past unforgettable Hollywood movies.. would be still unforgettable if you give choice to the audience about the content.
Rape scenes should not have a choice otherwise it is not rape...Rape scene is for breaking a vanilla boring scenario..of course you can skip clicking CONTROL...
"Most player hate forced sex in porn"... as result of odd education system in most of the western country, making impossible for nowadays "men" to distinguish reality from fiction.. but anyway.. Scene in the BAR was amazing!!!
- Jun 7, 2019
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Look, this kind of discussion is going to keep happening. The game starts off like it's going to be about hotwifing/cuckoldry/NTR/whatever term you like. Lisa and Danny's conversation after the swim trip makes it seem like it will be some form of sex-positive, even if there will be bumps along the way. I even liked it for the bumps, hard to imagine that sort of lifestyle NOT having some serious issues to tackle.
What it's actually turned into is a game heavily featuring violence against women and non-sex-positive cheating. What's the last sex Lisa had that Danny knows about? Moddy's party? And the only woman in the game without sexual violence as either backstory or onscreen misery is the one that won't appear in any sex scenes? That's pretty significant.
Like I said, this will keep happening. People start playing this game, think it's going to be one thing, then run into the misogyny at every turn. They're going to keep coming here to say "Hey, what the fuck?"
That is what it is. Like I said in my review, it's not my place to judge someone else's kink. Filtering out the rape tag eliminates an enormous percentage of the games on this site. It's the shift from where this game starts to where it's now gone that's going to keep this thread having the same arguments for the next 15 years.
What it's actually turned into is a game heavily featuring violence against women and non-sex-positive cheating. What's the last sex Lisa had that Danny knows about? Moddy's party? And the only woman in the game without sexual violence as either backstory or onscreen misery is the one that won't appear in any sex scenes? That's pretty significant.
Like I said, this will keep happening. People start playing this game, think it's going to be one thing, then run into the misogyny at every turn. They're going to keep coming here to say "Hey, what the fuck?"
Misogyny is, in fact, the primary focus of the game. Add up the women with sexual violence in their story arcs and the ones without. Add up the rapists, rapist accomplices, and molesters. Factor in the forthcoming drug whore story line (based on the famous drugs of addiction marijuana and MDMA, lol). This game is about punishing women.
That is what it is. Like I said in my review, it's not my place to judge someone else's kink. Filtering out the rape tag eliminates an enormous percentage of the games on this site. It's the shift from where this game starts to where it's now gone that's going to keep this thread having the same arguments for the next 15 years.
Yeah it's great game. But play the first game, rpgm version. Ren py version is not so good.
- Aug 28, 2019
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I really hate how disconnected the sex scenes are from the narrative, during story Lisa is shy and inexperienced, but durning sex she is a sex addicted dirty talking whore, it doesn't feel right.
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Honestly that's one of the things I like. It fits the storytelling of a girl who buys society's narrative of what constitutes a "good girl" discovering that she really loves sex and being sexual. It was one of the things I thought could lend to a really good journey. Like, she'd come to realize out of bed that the way she was in bed was the reflection of who she really wanted to be, not the chaste stereotype she was trying to be for other people.
- Apr 9, 2018
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Errr, she isn't inexperienced. In-fact it's written a lot of times that she is very sexually active with Danny. However, just like a lot of folks in real life, she doesn't project her "behind the bedroom door" persona openly in front of others. Evidence why she is very uncomfortable talking about sex with her Aunt but is very aware and curious at the same time.
I am not a fan of rape or violence either but I had no issues playing as the extreme content was completely choice based and easily avoidable. Kinda weird making an opinion based on opinions being written by a bunch of strangers on the internet, no?
- Nov 21, 2018
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If you've played any of the releases within the past six months, you should have seen the title screen with the ominous music and the dark and rainy setting, with superimposed images of Lisa and other characters looking worried or frightened. That title screen immediately clues the player in as to what lies in store for them.
I'll grant you that the previous title screen, used for the first year that the game was in development, had cheerful music, a bright and sunny setting, and cheerful character images superimposed. And I'll grant you that the story does start out on a lighter note. But, even early in the story, there are obvious hints that rougher waters lie ahead. There are multiple hints to the player that a mobster and his violent crime syndicate are going to play a major part in the story. And both in his posts to his supporters on Patreon and SubscribeStar, and in his posts here on this forum, PaleGrass has been open from the beginning that this story was going to get darker as it went along.
Even when the game had a bright and cheerful title screen, anyone who went into the game thinking that it was going to be smooth sailing was just ignoring the warnings all around them. And since the title screen has been updated (which has been half a year, now), there's just no way that new players are starting this game and not realizing that it has a dark edge to the story.
As for your question about when Lisa last had sex with Danny's knowledge, that was entirely up to you, so I can't answer it. When was the last time that you chose for Lisa to have sex without Danny's knowledge? The player has the option in this game to cheat or not cheat. If Lisa in your game has been cheating, you chose for that to happen.
Misogyny is not the primary focus of this game, and the game is not about punishing women. The game is about a girl who just wanted to live a happy life, but who got caught up with dangerous people and violent events. The focus of the game is Lisa's story. A good story has conflict. It has obstacles, trials, and tribulations for the protagonist. The protagonist goes on a journey, often involving pain and suffering, but ending (we hope) with an ultimate triumph and a good resolution for those who deserve it.
Lisa wants a "happily ever after", but she's going to have to suffer before she gets it. And that's not misogyny. That's good writing. Some of the characters she encounters in her story may be misogynists, but their actions are not the primary focus of the story. They are simply part of the conflict in the story. They are plot devices which will push Lisa and put her (and other characters) to the test. But she will stand up to that test, and will come out on top. And the players who followed that story to the end will cheer for her, and the players who left along the way will hopefully find some other story which they enjoy more.
- Aug 28, 2019
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She didn't even know what a glory hole is at the beginning, you don't just casually start talking dirty, you can't convince me she was experienced from that start.
She wasn't experienced but what I think OP is saying is that her true nature is being this more sexual and that her good girl persona is sort of her fooling others aswell as herself. The game definetly takes some liberities early on in terms of dialogue during sex scenes, but its not like its the craziest thing for her to have a lot of repressed feelings that burst out in the form of dirty talk. Its not like during the scenes she is making refrence to stuff she'd have no idea aboutt like glory holes.
- Nov 6, 2017
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you guys need to get out more, meet some girls. It may surprise you what an "inexperienced girl" can be capable of if the right buttons are pushed at the right time.