RPGM Lisa [v3.1.3A] [PaleGrass]

[123Ins123]

That route will properly begin in Episode 3 buddy, so I hope you have a nice tent until then ^_^!

I wonder what kind of tin can the route of sadism reach, or is the scene in the pub the toughest..?

 

[gekk0z]

This Dev is consistently producing excellent lewd content, and is very engaging with his fans here in F95. But his Patreon subscription numbers are very poor. I think that this Dev should spend 50% less time at F95, search out other marketing avenues like Twitter and/or Pornhub, and spend a bit of time on his Discord to drum up support from his existing loyal fan base.

I haven't seen you on Discord PaleGrass , you should pop in and chat with your subscribers, get your Discord organised a bit. Time and effort spent on F95 does not seem to be very rewarding for you... so far.

 

[LongoMcFap]

This Dev is consistently producing excellent lewd content, and is very engaging with his fans here in F95. But his Patreon subscription numbers are very poor. I think that this Dev should spend 50% less time at F95, search out other marketing avenues like Twitter and/or Pornhub, and spend a bit of time on his Discord to drum up support from his existing loyal fan base.

I haven't seen you on Discord PaleGrass , you should pop in and chat with your subscribers, get your Discord organised a bit. Time and effort spent on F95 does not seem to be very rewarding for you... so far.

I think F95 is an excellent platform to get more paying supporters. There is a steady rise in subscribers (and the usual monthly drop when it's payday). For me personally, the price structure is not the best. I was in the 18€ tier one month, but the rewards for this tier are too low to justify 18€ month. I got the alpha early okay (but, the meaning of Alpha is not (only) a bugfixing version, it's a version with not the full content of the final release. So maybe changing this to something like First look version, Preview One version would fit better) So no beta (with more content/full content), unless I would be subscribed this month too. If there was a constant monthly output, I could imagine subscribing to a maximum of a 15€ tier. But this means monthly new stuff, or more influence.

So this is in no way a judgement of working speed, number of output, quality! It's hell of work to do the posing, postwork, etc..

I, personally, would reduce the highest tier price to 15€ and stuff it with two, three or even four weeks earlier access to the final, and immediate access to alpha and beta. Also a toptier discord section for idea exchange and maybe a bit more weight on scenes (but still the dev is the dev and should realize his vision, patreons are to support, not to command in my opinion), another thing would be exclusive polls for this tier (so decisions in borders set by Palegrass can be made by the top supporters). And then maybe two or three lower tiers, 2.50€ for getting only the final four weeks after finishing and discord access, and a 7.50€ tier with two weeks earlier access to the final and immediate access to the beta and some not so impacting polls.

Again, this is just my opinion Nor do I say this would raise the patreon number to the moon, but the tiers would be more meaningful and more related to the amount of money someone pays.
Stil people telling others about a great game they discovered or writing an honest review (to show a 5 star rating on the latest updates page), putting a little image or something in their F95 siganture to do additional promotion are thing that would help additionaly!

However, first and all _more or less regular output_ with quality lewd content will attract the minions here! So keep up your fantastic work Palegrass and, hopefully, your patreon number will rise.

 

[TheLecher]

This Dev is consistently producing excellent lewd content, and is very engaging with his fans here in F95. But his Patreon subscription numbers are very poor.

Bear in mind that the supporters for this game are split between Patreon and SubscribeStar, so the Patreon numbers do not represent all of the support for this game. Of course, the point still stands that this game, and the developer, deserve more support than they are currently receiving.

Hopefully, all of the Patreon supporters will eventually transfer their support over to SubscribeStar. The fewer adult game developers who are dependant upon Patreon, the better, and the more people who know and care about the differences between Patreon and SubscribeStar, the better.

 

[Anawmar]

new sex scene in beta update?

 

[kizuru]

new sex scene in beta update?

No just two new scenes of Lisa attending a church service then going home to take a shit

 

[sirbajo]

No just two new scenes of Lisa attending a church service then going home to take a shit

How can you know if their are sex scenes are not in the beta? It's not out yet.

Also one of the scenes is the gathering and i bet 10€ that it will have sex in it.

 

[FMag]

Hey PaleGrass ! I just wanted to say, that after the last AEA update, you are climbing the success ladder. A lot of new content, new scenes, creating interest, ... my compliments.

 

[Shackie]

How can you know if their are sex scenes are not in the beta? It's not out yet.

Also one of the scenes is the gathering and i bet 10€ that it will have sex in it.

 

[PaleGrass]

Arigato Palegrass-sama

Grateful for all your hard work desu ☺

Aishiteru chinchin oppai kimochi!

Hahahahaha greetings!

"Aishiteru chinchin oppai kimochi!" translated to: "I love you, my boobs, feelings!"

Which I hope is the correct translation xDDD

So when we're going to see jayce party?

Next release is the Post Patch then after that it's Chapter 3 which is Jayce's party

I wonder what kind of tin can the route of sadism reach, or is the scene in the pub the toughest..?

I dunno about the tin can measurement of extremity but in my opinion the bar scene was pretty light in comparison to future content in Duncan's & Riggs' routes. With Lisa being inebriated & under the effects of GHB during that event I think it probably softened the blow of the whole thing a little. A fully conscious Lisa makes things an awful lot worse I think ^_^

This Dev is consistently producing excellent lewd content, and is very engaging with his fans here in F95. But his Patreon subscription numbers are very poor. I think that this Dev should spend 50% less time at F95, search out other marketing avenues like Twitter and/or Pornhub, and spend a bit of time on his Discord to drum up support from his existing loyal fan base.

I haven't seen you on Discord PaleGrass , you should pop in and chat with your subscribers, get your Discord organised a bit. Time and effort spent on F95 does not seem to be very rewarding for you... so far.

Well thank you v much for such kind words mate

It's hard to put a value on f95 because of how useful it is for me as a developer but I'd go ahead and estimate that it's been infinitely valuable to date ^_^

Twitter!? Never used it xD Discord also just won't update on my PC so last couple times I was on it was on my phone actually

I reply to every patron / subscribestar message in the hopes that it means I don't have to type on said phone! lol!

I think F95 is an excellent platform to get more paying supporters. There is a steady rise in subscribers (and the usual monthly drop when it's payday). For me personally, the price structure is not the best. I was in the 18€ tier one month, but the rewards for this tier are too low to justify 18€ month. I got the alpha early okay (but, the meaning of Alpha is not (only) a bugfixing version, it's a version with not the full content of the final release. So maybe changing this to something like First look version, Preview One version would fit better) So no beta (with more content/full content), unless I would be subscribed this month too. If there was a constant monthly output, I could imagine subscribing to a maximum of a 15€ tier. But this means monthly new stuff, or more influence.

So this is in no way a judgement of working speed, number of output, quality! It's hell of work to do the posing, postwork, etc..

I, personally, would reduce the highest tier price to 15€ and stuff it with two, three or even four weeks earlier access to the final, and immediate access to alpha and beta. Also a toptier discord section for idea exchange and maybe a bit more weight on scenes (but still the dev is the dev and should realize his vision, patreons are to support, not to command in my opinion), another thing would be exclusive polls for this tier (so decisions in borders set by Palegrass can be made by the top supporters). And then maybe two or three lower tiers, 2.50€ for getting only the final four weeks after finishing and discord access, and a 7.50€ tier with two weeks earlier access to the final and immediate access to the beta and some not so impacting polls.

Again, this is just my opinion Nor do I say this would raise the patreon number to the moon, but the tiers would be more meaningful and more related to the amount of money someone pays.
Stil people telling others about a great game they discovered or writing an honest review (to show a 5 star rating on the latest updates page), putting a little image or something in their F95 siganture to do additional promotion are thing that would help additionaly!

However, first and all _more or less regular output_ with quality lewd content will attract the minions here! So keep up your fantastic work Palegrass and, hopefully, your patreon number will rise.

I just figured when I set them both up that the tier system on those platforms was mainly for early release stuff ^_^ I wouldn't wanna lock people out for weeks between tiers, that'd feel a bit cruel so a few days seemed right to me then the WP & voting rights on the tiers as little extras! (This has reminded me that I actually wanted to make a small poll so thank you xD)

Hopefully, all of the Patreon supporters will eventually transfer their support over to SubscribeStar. The fewer adult game developers who are dependant upon Patreon, the better, and the more people who know and care about the differences between Patreon and SubscribeStar, the better.

This would be preferable definitely, I think Patreon is a better platform for ease of use but I am very concerned with future "more graphic" content being uploaded and my account being deleted in a heartbeat. I am seriously considering releasing "that" content separately and not including it in the patreon uploads just to avoid any headache down the line. I've read a few instances of developers literally losing their account with no warning and no chance of redemption.

 

[PaleGrass]

new sex scene in beta update?

YUP!

No just two new scenes of Lisa attending a church service then going home to take a shit

There is actually several CG of Lisa on the toilet to be fair.. xD

How can you know if their are sex scenes are not in the beta? It's not out yet.

Also one of the scenes is the gathering and i bet 10€ that it will have sex in it.

Guys don't take this bet.

Hey PaleGrass ! I just wanted to say, that after the last AEA update, you are climbing the success ladder. A lot of new content, new scenes, creating interest, ... my compliments.

Oh dear, am I garnering success by trampling the heads of others?

Thank you buddy <3

 

[PaleGrass]

Right I'm back to finishing this off, it's now 6am. I was awake until nearly 10am yesterday morning, it's safe to say my sleep schedule is a little backward but I'm nearly done thankfully.

I haven't written the bathhouse scene yet but I'm just gonna post that as a patch in a day or two. (It's not a sex scene)

I'd give this another 2-3 hours and the beta will be up <3

 

[NewTricks]

Hahahahaha greetings!

"Aishiteru chinchin oppai kimochi!" translated to: "I love you, my boobs, feelings!"

Which I hope is the correct translation xDDD



Next release is the Post Patch then after that it's Chapter 3 which is Jayce's party




I dunno about the tin can measurement of extremity but in my opinion the bar scene was pretty light in comparison to future content in Duncan's & Riggs' routes. With Lisa being inebriated & under the effects of GHB during that event I think it probably softened the blow of the whole thing a little. A fully conscious Lisa makes things an awful lot worse I think ^_^




Well thank you v much for such kind words mate

It's hard to put a value on f95 because of how useful it is for me as a developer but I'd go ahead and estimate that it's been infinitely valuable to date ^_^

Twitter!? Never used it xD Discord also just won't update on my PC so last couple times I was on it was on my phone actually

I reply to every patron / subscribestar message in the hopes that it means I don't have to type on said phone! lol!




I just figured when I set them both up that the tier system on those platforms was mainly for early release stuff ^_^ I wouldn't wanna lock people out for weeks between tiers, that'd feel a bit cruel so a few days seemed right to me then the WP & voting rights on the tiers as little extras! (This has reminded me that I actually wanted to make a small poll so thank you xD)



This would be preferable definitely, I think Patreon is a better platform for ease of use but I am very concerned with future "more graphic" content being uploaded and my account being deleted in a heartbeat. I am seriously considering releasing "that" content separately and not including it in the patreon uploads just to avoid any headache down the line. I've read a few instances of developers literally losing their account with no warning and no chance of redemption.

You are right to be concerned about Patreon borking your content. It happened to the developer of "Life in Middle East" (great game by the way) so he took all of the non-consent and forced/violent content and made it a patch that he released here instead of on Patreon. Now that is a lot easier to do on Renpy but you may be able to do something similar on this engine.

 

[PaleGrass]

You are right to be concerned about Patreon borking your content. It happened to the developer of "Life in Middle East" (great game by the way) so he took all of the non-consent and forced/violent content and made it a patch that he released here instead of on Patreon. Now that is a lot easier to do on Renpy but you may be able to do something similar on this engine.

Did he manage to recover his account or did he just setup a new one entirely?

I have thought about it quite a bit and I think the easiest way to do it is to setup entirely new maps with the sole purpose of housing these events in particular. That way the patch is simply CG + Map file which is super easy to organize and install

 

[NewTricks]

Did he manage to recover his account or did he just setup a new one entirely?

I have thought about it quite a bit and I think the easiest way to do it is to setup entirely new maps with the sole purpose of housing these events in particular. That way the patch is simply CG + Map file which is super easy to organize and install

If I remember correctly they needed a new account, so it isn't worth it to play chicken with Patreon's ever-shifting guideline priorities. The duplicate map method does sound like it would work. That way you could just have an alternate data folder that would serve as the patch. In windows, if you put the data folder in the same directory as another folder named data it automatically merges them. It might be more involved in Mac but I think similar for Android.

 

[lemonfreak]

It's hard to put a value on f95 because of how useful it is for me as a developer but I'd go ahead and estimate that it's been infinitely valuable to date ^_^

Twitter!? Never used it xD Discord also just won't update on my PC so last couple times I was on it was on my phone actually

I reply to every patron / subscribestar message in the hopes that it means I don't have to type on said phone! lol!

I use discord through my browser, can't you do that?

 

[PaleGrass]

If I remember correctly they needed a new account, so it isn't worth it to play chicken with Patreon's ever-shifting guideline priorities. The duplicate map method does sound like it would work. That way you could just have an alternate data folder that would serve as the patch. In windows, if you put the data folder in the same directory as another folder named data it automatically merges them. It might be more involved in Mac but I think similar for Android.

Yeah it's been a weight on my mind right from the start honestly. It's the only reason I added the whole "pick your relations" option because I read on their site that ANY form of hinted family, even those without blood relation Patreon still judges as incest which is just a bizarre take imo. Though I've had zero problems with them so far so I shouldn't complain too much ^_^

Ya the Android version I don't actually put together so I assume that whoever does it will just add everything

I use discord through my browser, can't you do that?

Yup.. logged straight in. No problem at all.

I literally had no idea you could use it via browser, I've been stressed about the discord situation for months worried that folks might think I'm ignoring them or something. ^_^

Well, it's a couple weeks late but I suppose I'm still the April fool

 

[brokenone222]

Hey PaleGrass, any idea how far we r from getting Lisa/Paul sex scenes?

 

[PaleGrass]

Hey PaleGrass, any idea how far we r from getting Lisa/Paul sex scenes?

I'll probably start their intercourse in one of the Chapters of Episode 3 buddy

 

[PaleGrass]

I have no time at all guys so I'm just gonna post the Pat/SS post here:



For a man that hates working with mirrors in Daz I'm sure doing it a lot recently xD

Lisa and I have the same vibe this morning as I stare into the mirror with bloodshot eyes realizing I have work in 90minutes >_>!

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I really wanted to have this finished up over the weekend, then again yesterday, then this morning at around 4am so I could get a good sleep before heading back to work. Ended up a little late given that it's closing in on 11am xD

So the major additions to this update are the second Gathering route (Cheating) and HOPEFULLY the journal is fully fixed. Fixing the journal might seem like a small task but it took me hours man and I mean houuuurrrrsss

The journal fix will apply automatically if you goto Lisa's House 2F - it's an autorun event that'll square everything up the second you enter the map. It will divide the Mod Shop route into individual paths along with a ton of other changes to entries and objectives. The whole goal was to make the journal as useful and as easy to follow as possible though it may still need some adjustments here and there.

Image count up from 4241 to 4470 which is a lot more than I expected but that's always the way with Grass that is Paler than usual today

The Gina & MM Bathhouse event hasn't been written yet though the CGs are in the directory so the CG count is a little bloated. I'm just outta time as I mentioned I'm back to work today and I didn't want to put this off any longer. I will make a patch that will simply be a map file to add the Gina & MM event in the coming days. The Bathhouse may bug you out if you enter it because the framework for the event is set it just has nothing in it yet.

There are still changes I want to make to the patch like some of the music in the Sharing route needs updated and some bugs that I only read today after finally rejoining Discord.

That's another thing actually! Yes! I'm back on Discord! I found out this morning that I can access it through a browser so that's awesome! I look forward to seeing some of you on there in future ) <3

I think that's everything? I'm pretty exhausted and I'm mentoring today in work so it's sure to be a fun day lol! As always please report any bugs you find to me here or now on Discord too!

OH! DON'T PICK THE NO ROUTE IN THE GATHERING YET PLEASE!

There is a warning in game noting that I forgot all about the No Route CGs (there aren't very many - it's just the day 2 morning CGs) so the No Route will crash the game. No = No sex so I dunno how many people this applies to but I gotta throw it out anyway x)

Lastly - I pray that there are no bugs, I PRAYYYYYYYY. I've been testing the game for the past 2 hours just the MG events and it was running fine so fingers crossed because it's very unlikely I'll be online again until late tomorrow night. I daresay the second I get back from work later I'll pass out on the couch
Thanks everyone for your patience over the past few weeks too my free days were mostly taken up leaving very little time to work but you've all been amazing <3

I hope you all have a fucking awesome day and that you enjoy the second route

//pG