RPGM Lisa [v3.1.3A] [PaleGrass]

[Shelby_Ruman]

tubitvdishi2 ,This one is so hot and triggers some Teenage memories in me!!That LOOK!!

 

[uhtredviking]

Trying LISA for hyper-realism with freckles


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Cheers

This is pure gold. WTF

 

[TheLecher]

I honestly rape, aggression or aggravated content can open up to pathways that can be borderline psychotic and scary. The further you push the envelope the further away you get from reality and even worse become a disaster person. I understand the need for that type of content but i also understand that countries would rather ban it as it can have mental implications on both the consumer and creator of it.

Are you theorizing based on your own emotional response? The available data from pollsters and the prevailing published opinions of psychologists do not support your theory. According to the available data and the prevailing expert opinion, rape fantasy is not abnormal or unhealthy.

Not doubting you, but curious about one thing. Suppose PG makes some art images involving Lisa that were supposed to be used in the dark routes. These images are no longer part of the game and without the story's context, they are now simply sex images. Now if someone creates a mod/patch with his own script and adds it to the game, how is PG responsible for how a stranger uses his art images?

PaleGrass will not be making any additional images which depict rape or coercive sex. I think we can safely infer that. Even without being set in the game or a story, the expressions and other visual cues in the images would have to be suggestive of those themes, or they would be useless for a patch such as you describe, and those themes are what PaleGrass will no longer be visually depicting.

 

[seismyth]

Are you theorizing based on your own emotional response? The available data from pollsters and the prevailing published opinions of psychologists do not support your theory. According to the available data and the prevailing expert opinion, rape fantasy is not abnormal or unhealthy.

I was just saying there's a possibility of it occurring of it occurring. Its not always the case, but there are some crazy people out there too. To put it this way, limits and boundaries are meant for a reason some countries aren't open to allowing that type of content therefore placed rules in order for it to not originate from their country. Which is why PG had to rebuild or fix certain aspects of the game. To be fair to each their own, each has their own set of limits and boundaries on which they won't go or dare to pass.

 

[TheLecher]

Please update to the most recent version please and thank you

That's not going to happen. If you had searched the thread, you would have known that.

 

[chinesewarrior]

If you'd bothered to read the forum you'd know the answer is that it's not the sharing of the patch or posting it that's illegal in his country it's very act of creating the content itself that is against his local laws. Morality and obscenity laws vary wildly from one country to another and sadly the codes where Palegrass lives are rather strict in this regard.

Yes it sucks and yes it's a PITA but it's not worth potential legal repercussions trying to skirt the issue.

I have read it. The thing i don't understand, Does Patreon give people's identity and private information to governments ? How they know who PaleGrass is ? His name and his location ? Are These infos open in Patreon and can be seen by everyone? Idk anything about Patreon , i don't have account so I don't know if you can see his name if he didn't share.

And how the situation developed ? Mega bans lots of people, not just Palegrass. Did Mega report this to Patreon and after that did Patreon report this to Palegrass's country authorities ? Exposed him ?

That's why people use nicknames and use sites like Patreon, instead of selling it in Steam or Google Play etc. If Patreon released his ID to authorities, it's a breach of thrust of Patreon, people might not use the site. so it doesn't make sense that Patreon exposed him.

So to sum up; if his real ID is not in the open and if Patreon didn't share his infos (IP, name etc) there is no way that authorities can know his real ID.

 

[iainmore]

I have read it. The thing i don't understand, Does Patreon give people's identity and private information to governments ? How they know who PaleGrass is ? His name and his location ? Are These infos open in Patreon and can be seen by everyone? Idk anything about Patreon , i don't have account so I don't know if you can see his name if he didn't share.

And how the situation developed ? Mega bans lots of people, not just Palegrass. Did Mega report this to Patreon and after that did Patreon report this to Palegrass's country authorities ? Exposed him ?

That's why people use nicknames and use sites like Patreon, instead of selling it in Steam or Google Play etc. If Patreon released his ID to authorities, it's a breach of thrust of Patreon, people might not use the site. so it doesn't make sense that Patreon exposed him.

So to sum up; if his real ID is not in the open and if Patreon didn't share his infos (IP, name etc) there is no way that authorities can know his real ID.

You are being Naive to think that we have any real privacy in the Age of Woke Nazism.

 

[TheLecher]

I have read it. The thing i don't understand, Does Patreon give people's identity and private information to governments ? How they know who PaleGrass is ? His name and his location ? Are These infos open in Patreon and can be seen by everyone? Idk anything about Patreon , i don't have account so I don't know if you can see his name if he didn't share.

Patreon will give that information to the government, if the government subpoenas those records. If the company does not comply with the government's subpoena, then the government will not allow the company to operate within that government's jurisdiction. So pretty much all companies, including companies which care about customer privacy, will go along with a government subpoena. In this case, however, the concern is not Patreon, but Mega.

And how the situation developed ? Mega bans lots of people, not just Palegrass. Did Mega report this to Patreon and after that did Patreon report this to Palegrass's country authorities ? Exposed him ?

No, Mega did not report anything to Patreon. Mega sent PaleGrass' private information to the authorities. And they did it on their own initiative. The government did not go to Mega and demand PG's information. The government didn't even know that PG existed. Mega decided that they were going to take down PG's account, and then they decided to voluntarily send his information to the authorities.

Now, Mega is based in New Zealand, and when they say that they're going to send someone's information to the authorities, they mean that they're going to send the data to the New Zealand Police, which is their national police service. PG does not live in New Zealand. He lives in Ireland, which might mean Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland. However, the New Zealand Police do work internationally with other law enforcement agencies, so, if they believe that something is a crime in your home country, they will forward the data they have to the appropriate police agency. This is why PG is concerned.

 

[Zane11]

Patreon will give that information to the government, if the government subpoenas those records. If the company does not comply with the government's subpoena, then the government will not allow the company to operate within that government's jurisdiction. So pretty much all companies, including companies which care about customer privacy, will go along with a government subpoena. In this case, however, the concern is not Patreon, but Mega.



No, Mega did not report anything to Patreon. Mega sent PaleGrass' private information to the authorities. And they did it on their own initiative. The government did not go to Mega and demand PG's information. The government didn't even know that PG existed. Mega decided that they were going to take down PG's account, and then they decided to voluntarily send his information to the authorities.

Now, Mega is based in New Zealand, and when they say that they're going to send someone's information to the authorities, they mean that they're going to send the data to the New Zealand Police, which is their national police service. PG does not live in New Zealand. He lives in Ireland, which might mean Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland. However, the New Zealand Police do work internationally with other law enforcement agencies, so, if they believe that something is a crime in your home country, they will forward the data they have to the appropriate police agency. This is why PG is concerned.

Suppose he made the art for the dark routes and had a friend from another country post it under another name. Would that possibly work? Yes the art would point to him, but couldn't he theoretically claim it's a copycat artist? I don't think there's a way to disprove that, is there?

 

[PalmFace]

Suppose he made the art for the dark routes and had a friend from another country post it under another name. Would that possibly work? Yes the art would point to him, but couldn't he theoretically claim it's a copycat artist? I don't think there's a way to disprove that, is there?

Didn't PG state multiple times that they just do not want to take that risk?? Why do we keep reiterating these things, putting pressure on PG? We just gotta accept things as they are...

 

[Zane11]

Didn't PG state multiple times that they just do not want to take that risk?? Why do we keep reiterating these things, putting pressure on PG? We just gotta accept things as they are...

True enough, but acceptance is the last stage of grief, I don't think we're all there yet lol

 

[redharvest1]

Suppose he made the art for the dark routes and had a friend from another country post it under another name. Would that possibly work? Yes the art would point to him, but couldn't he theoretically claim it's a copycat artist? I don't think there's a way to disprove that, is there?

Would you risk potentially going to jail just so some complete strangers had something to jerk off to? Kind of selfish to expect anyone else to....

 

[Zane11]

Would you risk potentially going to jail just so some complete strangers had something to jerk off to? Kind of selfish to expect anyone else to....

No I get that completely, I absolutely don't blame PG. My question was more along the lines of whether my "suggestion" is a risk.

 

[redharvest1]

No I get that completely, I absolutely don't blame PG. My question was more along the lines of whether my "suggestion" is a risk.

It is a major risk. It's pretty easy to tell one artists work from another, especially when it's the quality of PG's renders as his use of DoF and lighting is rather masterful.

 

[Zane11]

It is a major risk. It's pretty easy to tell one artists work from another, especially when it's the quality of PG's renders as his use of DoF and lighting is rather masterful.

Fair enough, yes the art would definitely point to PG. I was just wondering if it'd be possible to actually prove it's his.

 

[redharvest1]

Fair enough, yes the art would definitely point to PG. I was just wondering if it'd be possible to actually prove it's his.

If they seized his computer (which they would if they were attempting to bring charges and would need no proof to do so other than reasonable suspicion) then proving it would be child's play for even a novice computer tech.

 

[TheLecher]

It is a major risk. It's pretty easy to tell one artists work from another, especially when it's the quality of PG's renders as his use of DoF and lighting is rather masterful.

This is actually not a valid concern, from a legal perspective. Yes, most good artists do have distinctive and unique styles, even when using a program like Daz, but there's no way that a prosecutor could prove in a court of law that Artist X created a specific piece of art, based on the appearance of the art. Showing similarities in style between two pieces of art cannot conclusively demonstrate authorship.

Metadata on the images would probably be sufficient, if the image used by the prosecutor were found on the defendant's computer, and not a copy downloaded from anywhere else, which brings us to your other point.

If they seized his computer (which they would if they were attempting to bring charges and would need no proof to do so other than reasonable suspicion) then proving it would be child's play for even a novice computer tech.

This would be the real concern. Of course, they would have to get a warrant to seize the computer, which means that they would have to show a judge that they had sufficient grounds to suspect a crime had been committed. It would be up to the judge to determine whether or not their grounds were sufficient, and also to decide the scope of their warrant.

So it would really be a question first of what data Mega forwarded to the New Zealand Police, second of whether or not the NZP actually forwarded that data to the authorities where PaleGrass lives, and third of whether or not that data (or any additional data subsequently gathered by the Irish police) would satisfy a judge's requirements to issue a warrant.

 

[BBCinyourass]

Someone have current save with gallery fully unlocked?

 

[tubitvdishi2]

This is your date. You took her to a fancy restaurant.


You both come back to her place, and she slips into something comfortable.


You decide to freshen yourself up and head towards the bathroom. On your way, you meet her twin sister.


STAY AWAY FROM HER !!!. She's trouble.


Cheers

 

[Zane11]

This is your date. You took her to a fancy restaurant.
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You both come back to her place, and she slips into something comfortable.
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You decide to freshen yourself up and head towards the bathroom. On your way, you meet her twin sister.
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STAY AWAY FROM HER !!!. She's trouble.
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Cheers

Amazing art! May I ask what you use to make these?