RPGM Lisa [v3.1.5] [PaleGrass]

[maiie]

the distress and downfall lisa goes through is really important

Weren't these characters primarily in optional routes? How important could it have been?

 

[Skorm007]

Weren't these characters primarily in optional routes? How important could it have been?

Exactly, yes the rest of the story is gradually gonna get darker but there are different ways to show that other than outright sexual violence.
I doubt the game was gonna go hard in the direction those two routes went, otherwise they wouldn't have been optional with big disclaimers.

 

[TheLecher]

Weren't these characters primarily in optional routes? How important could it have been?

Whether Lisa stays with Danny in a monogamous relationship, stays with him in a swinging relationship, stays with him while cheating, or breaks up with him are also all optional routes (Not in the sense that you can completely opt out of all four paths, since you do have to choose one of these options, but in the sense that, once you pick your path, the others don't count.). That doesn't mean that these aren't important decisions for the player.

But yes, the optional paths with Duncan and Paul can be skipped without changing the central and essential plot points of the story. That doesn't change the fact that, for myself and a lot of other people who care about freedom of expression and artistic freedom, this is a big deal.

 

[Htyur]

Sad this will become like any other vanilla game with no edge to it. Wish you could just change some writing in Duncan path but at the end of the day it is your game. I hope for the best for the future releases.

 

[brokenone222]

Lol good riddance Paul.

Who was Duncan? I can't remember, I'm bad with names.

U celebrating while the Paul Route was one of the most popular routes in the game according to Pale. So this is bummer news to most who play the game.

 

[NasValir]

It's such a shame that Mega allowed just one person named "RanCor" falsely report your links and just ban your account so easily from one false report, one person, out of hate towards female protag games being shown as the editors choice on Fap-Nation that caused you so much stress and worry, I understand that you want to play it safe for your and your game future, but, none of this is your or your game fault

Can't we just propose to turn that retard whos only success in his life to report others for the most useless reasons into some garbage character in the game which Lisa can break and dominate in the most sadistic ways (evil grin).
Of course if the so called "LAW" even allows that.

 

[seismyth]

Paul's route can be redone in a way that hides it in plain sight. Paul could say find her under the influence of a said drug or drunk and hook up with her. There's ways to keep both routes but you'd have to re-adjust or rebuild then in such a way that allows for certain aspects to be incorporated. Lisa's dislike for Paul could be the way she disguises her need for exploration of her darker side of sex. While the other person can be her having Daddy issues and exploring the option of seeking attention of older men. It all depends on how it will impact the evolution of Lisa and how pale grass might consider bringing it back in a way that implements similar or parallel elements to the story itself. There's room for it, just depends on the method and implementation of it

 

[Ataman87]

The dude is dropping Duncan and Paul's route i read his "official" post. And there were people who suggest that he shoud remove it from the official game and re-add it using some sort of patch. But he said "he is playing it safe" so i gues that wont happen. Honestly i dont much care about rape in fact i find it disgusting so i dont care about it in fact im pleased since it means more consensual content.

 

[banqwert]

The dude is dropping Duncan and Paul's route i read his "official" post. And there were people who suggest that he shoud remove it from the official game and re-add it using some sort of patch. But he said "he is playing it safe" so i gues that wont happen. Honestly i dont much care about rape in fact i find it disgusting so i dont care about it in fact im pleased since it means more consensual content.

Great to know you are a fan of consent but insist on playing a game with blackmail and rape tags. Reckon you also love doing your sister in missionary only. Hats off mate.

 

[Alea iacta est]

Great to know you are a fan of consent but insist on playing a game with blackmail and rape tags. Reckon you also love doing your sister in missionary only. Hats off mate.

Fan of consent.... Fuck off lol

 

[Cabin]

Yo ,yo wtf happened here ?
I did not visit the thread for a very long time because of my exams
What is all this bullshit about laws,police and stuff ??

 

[Ataman87]

Great to know you are a fan of consent but insist on playing a game with blackmail and rape tags. Reckon you also love doing your sister in missionary only. Hats off mate.

Well fuck you too mate ! Im just saying what the dev told us. And i expressed my feeling toward it . You dont like it ?! Thats your problem. If you like fantasies about hardcore rape so be it ! As long it stays virtual only ! Tough i don't condone that. And no need to unsult me. As for the game its not about rape only. All of that cointent was avoidable and now its gone. It doesn't affect me much in fact its better for me thats all im saying.

 

[TheLecher]

Honestly i dont much care about rape in fact i find it disgusting so i dont care about it in fact im pleased since it means more consensual content.

Why would you assume that it means more consensual content? I mean, it's possible that it could turn out that way, but I don't know why you would assume that. We know that PaleGrass has this game largely mapped out multiple updates in advance, if not through to the endgame, and that this includes the erotic content. I suppose that eliminating some content might lead him to creating some additional content in other plotlines, but that's only one possibility. It's just as likely that this simply means less total content in the game.

 

[tubitvdishi2]

Most people on the planet have those dark, rough, and kinky fantasies. Everyone needs that type of release once in a while, and that can be exercised through the medium of fiction. This political correctness crap is literally ruining the freedom for artistic creativity.

Cheers

 

[seismyth]

To each their own, everyone gets angry when certain things get removed or added but at the same time this environment has a lot of people with tastes of different types as well in kikiness too. If pale grass can navigate through it and push out good content he's done his job. But if he wants to play it safe, he's probably going to be rethinking certain parts or aspects he had planned for the game with minor tweaks to avoid getting in trouble. Its just the nature of the environment in which creators and developers are adjusting to the challenges and changes being placed on them.

 

[iainmore]

I wasn't even a fan of the Rat boy Paul but it should be there for those who were his fans I think.

 

[seismyth]

I wasn't even a fan of the Rat boy Paul but it should be there for those who were his fans I think.

Every character gave something to the story. Paul was annoying but it made the story believable with dirty twist and theme as people tend to be very manipulative in that age group actually in most age groups. Dunca added a different twist to the story that explored other aspects of life too. Both had their appeals in a way that contributed to keeping the story too bland and allowed for more areas of exploitation and exploration to occur or be possible too. Pale grass might have something in store to replace those characters or redevelop them into characters that fit into the story with a twist or not that's up to him.

 

[redharvest1]

Sorry to see the Paul/Duncan plotlines getting axed TBH.

For me this will definitely knock the game down a notch as one of it's biggest draws for me was the inclusion of a bit of content for all tastes and the fact said content was purely optional. Without the darker material it will be just left with the NTR/Futa/Lesbian/Interracial plotlines and two of those are not things I enjoy.

Anyway, Thanks for the great memories PG and GL bud.

 

[Wirwawlp]

Not a fan of the Paul path he's just so annoying so I'm not that concerned. I liked the Mac&Dees Duncan scene though so it's a shame that it's going to be removed.. I hope I'm wrong into thinking that because of this hoopla, we might not get any update until next year. REALLY hoping I'm wrong. Lisa is my favorite out of all the adult games I've played so far..so It's going to be a bummer if we don't get any update for a long while.. PG please prove me wrong.

 

[PaleGrass]

Hi everyone, I'm just replying to the last two pages here so I'm sorry if I missed you. Given the recent development I just wanted to pop in a give my two cents x

It is snowflake society....

Porn has always been about breaking rules (religion, history, politic etc).

Now the so called artist are domesticated dogs, lead by tech censorship.

If you don't break the rules you are part of the problem.


There were always politicians, priests or other shit that tried to stop porn.
. But guess what.... In Italy in the 80s were filming porn in the churches despite Vatican and local laws.

This means own it

I don't necessarily disagree with you mate but I'm not willing to break the law to produce porn, as harsh as that sounds

There are certainly things worth fighting for in life but this doesn't feel terribly high up the priority list x

I hope this doesn't come across as rude because that's genuinely not my intention here.

now i am really worried about the riggs and darker routes in the story when tony comes,Is palegrass gonna compromise the sex scenes of darker paths in the future for the sake of this legal issue...dude this really blocks the creative freedom in this medium,mahn i have been waiting to see lisa 's RISE after her major downfall,now i think its just gonna be some hardcore violent scenes(ya ya those vanilla stuffs as in other games) without the pulse in it!!

fuck fuck fuck fuck the system yo!we really need to find some way though!

The only content that's being cut is sexual content with Paul & Duncan. Everything else will remain the same x

Because it is the way it is.

In fact, I still don’t quite understand what he is talking about (the one that talking about law and responsibility). At the moment there is a lot of content, that is many times "darker" than such story from “moral” point of view and content lives in free access and no one doing anything with that... hmm now it's making more sense, but still kind of unsure.

Still, I think your "patch" idea looks workable, but let's say it's not patch, but just "unofficial mod by some other artist" (who made it for his own pleasure, and not out of desire to get money from it), go then prove it's not true

ps. To be honest, I'm upset in first place precisely because I was really interested in how author was going to shape continuation of these routes while maintaining balance I mentioned earlier.

I won't continue producing any content with Paul or sexual content with Duncan even under the guise of another releasing it x

While he mentioned Mega in passing in his post, if you look more closely, you can see that the point he stresses is the law, and he mentions that creating and distributing are treated differently than possession.

^ This is correct.

For anyone unsure; where I live it is illegal to produce pornographic content depicting non-consensual sex. This is why Paul & Duncan's routes are being removed.

A rebranding of Duncan's Character and when Lisa would be slutty enough for these two to be involved in a sexual manner, (unfortunately no in an too extreme manner ) but dark enough for the narrative of the game ( enough for Palegrass to be not worried about his country's law ) not take a huge hit.

I don't imagine any new users will think anything's missing. Paul & Duncan were entirely optional routes x

UK law is not against adult games or adult content, (I live UK) PG is able to still create and continue with his game, there is two issues here, one issue, the law in the UK is the also the same in the USA for adult entertainment, in the USA and UK it's illegal for Sextortion or Blackmail, but, that is for real life and online social platforms and is totally different for entertainment purpose such as a games, movies or tv shows, both UK and USA adult laws are the same

The other thing is how Mega notified PG, the links may have been reported as containing illegal content and PG is worried as they (Mega) "notify the legal services" this is what I think PG is more worried about and is changing his game to be on the safe side for him, but, he has nothing to worry about as the police will only act on a report if there is actual real evidence, PG has nothing to worry about, but, he wants to be on the safe side

It's legal in the USA, apparently some have tried over the years to criminalize it but the first amendment has reigned victorious thus far. It's illegal to produce anything that could be deemed pornographic in this nature in the UK. I read extensively into it after Mega tossed my details to the "authorities."

It's a horrible situation and I hate not having a winning path out but like you say; I have to play it safe.

Who was Duncan? I can't remember, I'm bad with names.

He's the only character perhaps more despicable than Paul lol (he's still in the game, you'll see him soon)

So this will be the last "Uncensored" version of Lisa?????

That has an awful ring to it, no like, no like lol

I don't think it matters what the Laws in the UK and USA in relation to porn say man. The Feminists and Wokists are equally rabid in both places. They might be even more rabid in the UK as the Feminists and Wokists are closing down Bank Accounts if they dont like the Customers views on sexuality and not even informing the Customer that they are doing so. TRUE!!! As you know if you arent filthy rich then you are well fucked as you cant afford the greedy Legal rapists.

I don't know what inspired the change in the law but it was amended in 2015; I was just ignorant to it until recently x

Weren't these characters primarily in optional routes? How important could it have been?

Well they're important to some and that's important to me x

I've received a lot a really lovely messages offering me condolences for the loss of time spent where that really isn't my concern. It's the thought of letting those that have followed me for a long time down that is the greater burden x

Exactly, yes the rest of the story is gradually gonna get darker but there are different ways to show that other than outright sexual violence.
I doubt the game was gonna go hard in the direction those two routes went, otherwise they wouldn't have been optional with big disclaimers.

This is the silver lining if any at all. They are a small portion of the overall product and the rest remains completely unchanged x

But yes, the optional paths with Duncan and Paul can be skipped without changing the central and essential plot points of the story. That doesn't change the fact that, for myself and a lot of other people who care about freedom of expression and artistic freedom, this is a big deal.

^ Yeah

Again, I don't fully understand the reason for these laws. It's almost like banning violent video games because "the law" thinks they cause people to become violent.

Sad this will become like any other vanilla game with no edge to it. Wish you could just change some writing in Duncan path but at the end of the day it is your game. I hope for the best for the future releases.

I hope that it will be something other than a vanilla game even with these two routes gone x

Can't we just propose to turn that retard whos only success in his life to report others for the most useless reasons into some garbage character in the game which Lisa can break and dominate in the most sadistic ways (evil grin).
Of course if the so called "LAW" even allows that.

Well in another world I never got reported to Mega and instead have a squad car outside my house. It might well have been a blessing in disguise, who knows x

Paul's route can be redone in a way that hides it in plain sight. Paul could say find her under the influence of a said drug or drunk and hook up with her. There's ways to keep both routes but you'd have to re-adjust or rebuild then in such a way that allows for certain aspects to be incorporated. Lisa's dislike for Paul could be the way she disguises her need for exploration of her darker side of sex. While the other person can be her having Daddy issues and exploring the option of seeking attention of older men. It all depends on how it will impact the evolution of Lisa and how pale grass might consider bringing it back in a way that implements similar or parallel elements to the story itself. There's room for it, just depends on the method and implementation of it

I considered this but there's an event in the canon story that sort of disables this. Lisa doesn't live with Sharon for the entire game and I feel the ground work for a situation like this to become plausible would take too long and there just isn't enough time x

Yo ,yo wtf happened here ?
I did not visit the thread for a very long time because of my exams
What is all this bullshit about laws,police and stuff ??

-I was reported to Mega
-Mega banned my account and forwarded my details to the authorities
-I read the laws and realized the content I've been producing is illegal in my country
-Paul & Duncan's sexual content is being removed from the game

Hope your exams went well mate! x

Most people on the planet have those dark, rough, and kinky fantasies. Everyone needs that type of release once in a while, and that can be exercised through the medium of fiction. This political correctness crap is literally ruining the freedom for artistic creativity.

Cheers

I feel the same mate x

Pale grass might have something in store to replace those characters or redevelop them into characters that fit into the story with a twist or not that's up to him.

Sadly I don't have any ideas on how to redevelop Paul and that's why he's actually being removed from the game entirely. There's no world in which Lisa has sexual relations with him consensually so there isn't any point in him staying. Duncan is a mainstay and will see some amount of screen time in the latter half of the game but he won't be involved in any sexual content so the game will play out as if the player simply opted out of his route x

Sorry to see the Paul/Duncan plotlines getting axed TBH.

For me this will definitely knock the game down a notch as one of it's biggest draws for me was the inclusion of a bit of content for all tastes and the fact said content was purely optional. Without the darker material it will be just left with the NTR/Futa/Lesbian/Interracial plotlines and two of those are not things I enjoy.

Anyway, Thanks for the great memories PG and GL bud.

Yeah, I'm sorry mate. To everyone I really am sorry. I hate this whole situation, it's really, really shit.

Bless you mate and thanks for always helping out others in the thread x

Not a fan of the Paul path he's just so annoying so I'm not that concerned. I liked the Mac&Dees Duncan scene though so it's a shame that it's going to be removed.. I hope I'm wrong into thinking that because of this hoopla, we might not get any update until next year. REALLY hoping I'm wrong. Lisa is my favorite out of all the adult games I've played so far..so It's going to be a bummer if we don't get any update for a long while.. PG please prove me wrong.

Aw no man there will still be updates, I'm fixing old CGs and dialogues atm to represent Paul's absence but to be honest I'm really all over the place. It's wild how much this whole situation has fucked with my head.

Anyway; the updates will still be the same 3month~ releases after I get everything in order x

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Sorry if you were a page before 386 and I didn't respond. It's a crap post and a crappy situation. I dunno how best to convey my apology to anyone and everyone who played Lisa for the cut style of content. It really wasn't an easy decision nor was it one I wanted to make but I hope you can understand that I can't risk a criminal conviction for a porn game even if the chance is slim x

Have a lovely weekend everyone <3