RPGM Lisa [v3.1.5] [PaleGrass]

[starkiller88m19]

Is it possible to get exhibition to 3?

 

[TheLecher]

It would need to be somewhere in the southern States in order to have Mayan ruins within a day's travel by car/bus.

That's another reason why I just assumed that it was set in an entirely fictional locale. You would actually have to be in Southern Mexico or in Central America to make it within a day. Even from the Southernmost point on the US/Mexico border, you'd still be looking at about an 18 to 20 hour drive.

It may not mean anything, but the number plate of Jayce's car (spaceship) gives this clue

That's good attention to detail, but I don't think it means anything, in this case. I'm pretty sure that this is the Daz asset in question. You can see that the New York plates come standard, from the store.

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[AlliebuttDK]

I can understand feeling protective of your characters, though it does seem odd to me that you should feel an urge to protect them within the context of your story. It would make more sense to me to be protective of your characters in the sense of wanting to protect them from misunderstanding and misrepresentation by the reader.

But I guess what you're describing really isn't all that unusual. It happened with J.K. Rowling and Hagrid. And the reverse happened with Agatha Christie and Poirot (She wanted to kill him off.). So your desire to protect your character within the story may be more common than I would guess. It's just not something which I've ever experienced.



I have a couple of problems with this line of thinking.

First, there's your insistence that the terms "tranny" and "shemale" are slurs. I would be willing to grant you that there are some people who use those words as slurs, with the intent to offend. But neither term was originally used as a slur, and both terms have been frequently self-applied by transsexuals in the past. For example, popular transsexual porn star Venus Lux often used the term "tranny" to refer to herself and her friends. And it would be very easy to come up with a handful of similar examples. An attempt to insist that these words are always slurs and must always be regarded as such is an attempt, whether intentional or not, to demonize anyone who may use the terms. In some cases, it may be an attempt to claim victim status. In some cases, it may be an attempt to discredit someone who holds a different opinion. In no case is it necessarily correct and must be assumed.

Second, there's your statement that the term "transsexual" is outdated. That's actually not how language works. A technical term within the context of a field of study (historical, medical, etc.) may become outdated when definitions and usages within that field change, but when it comes to daily usage in the general population, a word doesn't really become "outdated" until it has fallen out of usage for a long enough period of time that the word itself, or the previously held definition of the word, is no longer commonly known. And even then, the word is still not outdated for historical works, period pieces, or scholarship.

Now, there are some people who try to make rules for other people about what words they're allowed to say, and what they're allowed to think, and how they're allowed to act and feel. Those people will sometimes use terms like "outdated" or "unacceptable" when they're trying to lay down rules for others. Hopefully, you aren't one of those people. I'm certainly not going to assume that you are. But if you are, then it's probably best to just drop the subject now, because I don't allow other people to make rules for my words, thoughts, or feelings.



Yes, I agree that a developer might include a rape scene for other reasons than personal enjoyment, or even in cases when he or she personally dislikes that content, either because of a popular demand, or because it's important for the progression of the story. But it was already clear from past interactions that this was not the case for PaleGrass. And, since I was talking to this particular developer, I ruled out that assumption from the beginning.

I generally don't police what others feel comfortable with, or what others should say, so I'm certainly not one of those. I just happen to be part of trans spaces, where a lot of people are vocal about the things I've said in my previous post. And sure there's a handful of trans women that are comfortable with using words like tranny to describe themselves, and that's cool! It's the same as a black person using the N word. It's reclamation of a word that's often (In the west at least, where those words didn't originate) used to tear us down, and any trans woman who's comfortable with referring to themselves as such certainly has the power to do so. But as I said, they're a minority. Go to any serious trans space, say on reddit or other similar sites, or at a pride gathering, and the vast majority will agree that transsexual is an outdated term, and that tranny and shemale are offensive slurs. Though I'm not trying to police what others say, they're free to voice their opinion whether I agree with it or not, that doesn't mean that I, and many, many like me, would prefer that those words aren't generally used to describe us. Especially if it's a cis person using them, who has ZERO experience with the hate and ignorance that those words can be used with. So yeah, people can say whatever they want, I'm just trying to educate them, and whether they listen and learn or not is up to them. So there's no bad motives behind my actions, all I'm trying to do is share the perspective that I and a lot of other trans people share.

 

[gekk0z]

I generally don't police what others feel comfortable with...

Off-topic in this thread, go preach elsewhere please.

 

[rb813]

Lisa - Episode 2 Chapter 2 v.0.5 Final
(Unofficial Ren'Py Version)

Can you tell me a little bit about how this is different from the regular game? (I haven't played that either yet, and I'm trying to decide which to download.) Does it basically keep all the same gameplay but with mouse-based navigation instead of the tedious RPGM walking around? Or does it make the game more linear, like a VN?

 

[AlliebuttDK]

Can you tell me a little bit about how this is different from the regular game? (I haven't played that either yet, and I'm trying to decide which to download.) Does it basically keep all the same gameplay but with mouse-based navigation instead of the tedious RPGM walking around? Or does it make the game more linear, like a VN?

From my experience (Haven't played the RPGM one) it makes the game more like a visual novel, with some degree of guided sandbox. You do have to move from area to area, but it doesn't include any walking, you simply press on the entrance or exit of said areas you're in.

 

[gabich69]

From my experience (Haven't played the RPGM one) it makes the game more like a visual novel, with some degree of guided sandbox. You do have to move from area to area, but it doesn't include any walking, you simply press on the entrance or exit of said areas you're in.

Do you know when the renp'y will be available?

 

[AlliebuttDK]

Do you know when the renp'y will be available?

It's in the comments, so it's already available as it is. I think if you press the Renpy thing on the first page, it'll take you to the comment about the Renpy version which seems up to date with the RPGM version.

 

[redharvest1]

It's in the comments, so it's already available as it is. I think if you press the Renpy thing on the first page, it'll take you to the comment about the Renpy version which seems up to date with the RPGM version.

The Ren'py version for the newest update isn't out just yet.... should be updated soon(ish).

 

[gabich69]

It's in the comments, so it's already available as it is. I think if you press the Renpy thing on the first page, it'll take you to the comment about the Renpy version which seems up to date with the RPGM version.

no lol the rpg version is the v1.0 and the renp'y is only the v0.5 thats why i asked you it may not be updated yet!

 

[Geko1711]

That's another reason why I just assumed that it was set in an entirely fictional locale. You would actually have to be in Southern Mexico or in Central America to make it within a day. Even from the Southernmost point on the US/Mexico border, you'd still be looking at about an 18 to 20 hour drive.



That's good attention to detail, but I don't think it means anything, in this case. I'm pretty sure that this is the Daz asset in question. You can see that the New York plates come standard, from the store.

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As I have said before it may not have anything to do with it, but does the dev know that photoshop exists? (and who doesn't know that better than him?) Is it just 3/4 images to correct or is it intentional to set it in NY state?

 

[Geko1711]

no lol the rpg version is the v1.0 and the renp'y is only the v0.5 thats why i asked you it may not be updated yet!

I think it would not be good for them to update it now that a fairly important part of this version is missing so that they do not do the job twice.

 

[HGR11957]

How do I get on with Student Council with ''Club Assistance" ???

 

[Gagge89]

(This isn't the newest version. After the beta version is out, the update will come in a couple of days.)
Lisa - Episode 2 Chapter 2 v.0.5 Final
(Unofficial Ren'Py Version)


Windows/Linux and Mac [540 MB]:
GDrive Mega Workupload

Android (ported by cebs):
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Will the Renpy version with the Gallery Unlock also be made of the EP02 CH02 version 1.0 released now? Thank you

 

[defd©™]

TAC and ANNA are wild one´s for sure. If you like female protagonist games you can´t go wrong with those.

As you can see un my signature I already played Anna and TAC (TAC is a male protagonist game but it is a good one)... there are a lot of great Female Protagonist game... and if you are looking for games that are not in my signature list is only because i like games complete or with more than 2 or more hours of gameplay time ready..
GGGB is also great... (Fashion business too much click click and map grinding)-

Don't forget Special Request that is not so wild but the story is very nice

 

[PaleGrass]

No it wasn't my save. I highly dislike the RPGM engine and had no intention of trying your game again, no offense.

I enjoyed the first release quite a bit, story-wise.

Don't know if it was your save or not, just picked the first I found starting at this update to give it one more try and maybe change my mind. But each time I give RPGM a shot, the more disdain I have for it.

Honestly that is the only thing keeping me from supporting you.

Yeah mate I remember you from way early on in the thread and of course no offense taken <3 I know RPGM is a real controversial topic here. Have you tried Quency's Ren'Py version?

I know it isn't much use to you now but I have stated before that if I'm fortunate enough to complete this game that I'll likely try a different engine next time just to keep things new and fresh so maybe I'll see you in a couple of years bud x

Thanks mate, that worked ( silly old me was going to the bathtub and not the hot tub). I would also like to mention that you do a brilliant job, the way you build up the story is quite remarkable (and ofcourse the animation is phenomenal).

That's awesome bud! Yeah without a journal entry and the journal in such a shambles it really doesn't make things terribly clear but it's a wip ^_^ thanks so much mate, I'm so happy the story has come across this way <33!

What is with all the black frames in the renpy version?

I'm not terribly sure mate, I don't actually make the Ren'Py version. In fact I've never even used it! ^_^ well except to play game of course!

ANY ANIMATIONS?

NO, SORRY MATE <3!

I can understand feeling protective of your characters, though it does seem odd to me that you should feel an urge to protect them within the context of your story. It would make more sense to me to be protective of your characters in the sense of wanting to protect them from misunderstanding and misrepresentation by the reader.

But I guess what you're describing really isn't all that unusual. It happened with J.K. Rowling and Hagrid. And the reverse happened with Agatha Christie and Poirot (She wanted to kill him off.). So your desire to protect your character within the story may be more common than I would guess. It's just not something which I've ever experienced.

I definitely fear the misunderstanding of characters too, I actually have the next Resident post drafted and it mentions this very thing about Malik in particular. I've probably replayed and rewrote his scenes more than any scene to date ^_^ this is also the case with Sharon which I horribly misrepresented early on and Jayce too. It's all learning

Aoife is just like a little sister or something, I just want her to win!

 

[Rishi72]

Can anybody give me save file please.... because i don't want to play from beginning when new update come..... please someone share android save file

 

[PaleGrass]

You've also sort of "outed" yourself in SubscribeStar posts, saying that you were going to "get stuck in" on the work for the next update. That usage doesn't really appear in the US, but it's pretty common in the UK. I'm only very slightly familiar with Irish slang, so I just assumed that you were English.

It's no secret, Irish born and raised ^_^ I do try to keep my accent out of the game as much as possible but it just leaks out sometimes x) even with the name Aoife. I've mentioned before that it never dawned on me that people wouldn't know the name Aoife, I dunno how that didn't cross my mind given that it's an IRISH NAME hahahaha!

A question that maybe doesn't deserve an answer PaleGrass why did you set the game in New York State and not maybe in Ireland? For me that would have been great!

You know man when I started I was just running in the wake of other games, I think I was too skittish about trying anything new or something like that. So I modelled a fictional city around a more American idea, probably just because that's the norm kinda ^_^ It's not so much a regret as it is perhaps a missed opportunity?

It is a death sentence to call any Celt English.

Certainly cutting off the angus beef supply anyhow! x)

New York state? I must have missed where that was mentioned. I had just assumed that the fictional city of Renshire was not fixed in any specific real world state, province, or country. Though I do have to wonder if the name was inspired by Renfrewshire, in Scotland.

I have absolutely no idea where Renshire came from. It's oddly close to Renfrewshire though, maybe I saw it on a paper or something

It would need to be somewhere in the southern States in order to have Mayan ruins within a day's travel by car/bus.

My geography is embarrassingly awful but Renshire does float very close to the coast so can I now say that it was intentional?

It may not mean anything, but the number plate of Jayce's car (spaceship) gives this clue
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That plate came with the asset ^_^ I had considered editing it but muh lazy.. x)

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

It's no secret, Irish born and raised ^_^ I do try to keep my accent out of the game as much as possible but it just leaks out sometimes x) even with the name Aoife. I've mentioned before that it never dawned on me that people wouldn't know the name Aoife, I dunno how that didn't cross my mind given that it's an IRISH NAME hahahaha!

I think I've actually seen this name in one other game before this. I didn't know it, but I really like it.

 

[PaleGrass]

The game got stuck here why?

I have no idea mate, can you navigate the menu at all?

the threesome was great I wish it was animated xd

Otherwise I do not know if I am done.

Normally it says end of chapter or episode 2 but there is still some left like the Mod Shop and albiss Advertising. Can I reach exibitionism 3 here to get to the club?


As well as fitness and the bathouse.

The scenelist is:

Aoife College - Visit Ms Short's classroom then leave the college.
Brava Intro - Goto the Brava Hotel wearing Summer Blouse & Jeans after completing the Date with Gina & Jo
Brava Jobs 1-3 - Work at Brava
Brava KN - Work at Brava 3 times
Council Tutoring Jade - Accept request on the council board in Ms Short's classroom
Following Ms Short - Work at Brava twice
Paul Events - Shower 2, Coffee 2, Changing CGs
Moddy's Gathering - Work in the Mod Shop after completing Moddy 2 & have unlocked the Hot Tub at home.

Exhibitionism 3 won't be available until the very end of the next full release and none of the related content is continued until Episode 3 x

this the full version? 1.4 GB?

Yes buddy, it's been finely compressed otherwise you'd have a 5+ gb download ^_^

HOW CAN I CHANGE A ROUTE FROM OFF TO ON?

They're all tied into the story mate, you'll be given notice about the route choices as they happen and can make your decisions accordingly

Great now I'm just envisioning Danny or Moddy with an Irish accent like Jacksepticeye LMAO

I can definitely imagine Moddy being Irish, he's a bit of a clown but Danny? Nahh, he's no fit x)!

I use shared save files , in share route , can't trigger "Gathering" scene , already work over 5 days , and hotel has been work 2 days ,any one share save file that before scene trigger ??

Have you unlocked the hot tub mate? Try to go outside to Lisa's pool in the morning and see if a scene plays. After that you should be able to see the gathering at the Mod Shop if you're using the saves reposted around here

Is it possible to get exhibition to 3?

Next Episode mate x