RPGM Lisa [v3.1.5] [PaleGrass]

[LiMp17]

Yeah but i do think Paul needs something more than the previous material to push her so that She opens Up her Legs!i don't know paul has the Charm To make her wet by just talking and Humiliating(Unless Riggs Who is kinda Master In these stuffs)her ,i hope he will try to break her or probably would ask more than blowjob ,rather than Fucking her!!I hope the major penetration Scene with Paul Will come once his friends come into the picture and they get more stuffs so that they can blackmail and break her Confidence!

Lisa for me is anything but confident..on my photo even look at how she is looking

 

[LiMp17]

Maybe Paul Car
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I don´t think that´s his car tho

 

[Gerson876]

I don´t think that´s his car tho

Hmm... Maybe Paul Caught, Paul Cum, Paul Cunt, Paul Cuck, Paul Corgi Ohh.. this is too much for me

 

[Shelby_Ruman]

MMMMOVIE he says .
PC is still a mistery.

Ooohhh!!So It's Porn Movie,huh?

I am excited after what Happened With moddy Watching Porn!well at this Point Paul will probably get to know Lisa's Fantasy,She getting wet/horny watching threesome foursome scenes,that might be the Cue For Paul to invite his friends over and Have Some Fun!

Well Paul would be In for surprise when he gets to know How Lisa And His Friends had an Encounter earlier!And his boys Would thank him when they get to know she is gonna be their toy to play with

So,It's gonna Be Treat Boys!!Load Up your Weapons !

 

[Shelby_Ruman]

I would prefer that Paul fuck Lisa at least once on his own, before bringing his friends into it. To me, it would feel like a wasted opportunity if he didn't. Waiting until after a group event to begin having sex with her one-on-one would not be escalating things. It would be de-escalating. That's my take on it, anyway.

But i hope that Paul and His Friends are Not gonna Be just A Single event, Since Lisa will be Moving out after her Graduation,There might be more events involving them and Hope there are more events with them playing around with Lisa!

 

[brokenone222]

Yeah but i do think Paul needs something more than the previous material to push her so that She opens Up her Legs!i don't know paul has the Charm To make her wet by just talking and Humiliating(Unless Riggs Who is kinda Master In these stuffs)her ,i hope he will try to break her or probably would ask more than blowjob ,rather than Fucking her!!I hope the major penetration Scene with Paul Will come once his friends come into the picture and they get more stuffs so that they can blackmail and break her Confidence!

Just saying, there is perfectly good park to make a sex pet go out for a walk at night.

 

[PaleGrass]

How do I take the pics tho? Do I have a highlighted spot in these areas? I've seen that list in the walkthrough already but was unable to take find the spot to take these pics :/

I did that - I think. I got 406 followers already - if that is somewhat of an indicator on where I might be stuck/too stupid to continue

Because the album was implemented late and I had no markers for each of the photo spots they will remain blanked out even if you have collected the image in older saves
I'll make a node in RPGM for users again in the upcoming update so you can rectify the album yourself as 406 is the maximum currently so you have collected everything!
I know it's a pain in the behind but I am an absentminded fool ^_^

I don't know what sort of an ending PaleGrass will give us for the Paul storyline, but my own personal preference would be that Lisa eventually triumphs and gets free of him, but only after he has basically made a slave of her and gotten everything he wants from her.

Oh she triumphs alright

Hmm... Maybe Paul Caught, Paul Cum, Paul Cunt, Paul Cuck, Paul Corgi Ohh.. this is too much for me

Secrets out..

Ooohhh!!So It's Porn Movie,huh?

I am excited after what Happened With moddy Watching Porn!well at this Point Paul will probably get to know Lisa's Fantasy,She getting wet/horny watching threesome foursome scenes,that might be the Cue For Paul to invite his friends over and Have Some Fun!

Well Paul would be In for surprise when he gets to know How Lisa And His Friends had an Encounter earlier!And his boys Would thank him when they get to know she is gonna be their toy to play with

So,It's gonna Be Treat Boys!!Load Up your Weapons !

It's not a porn movie.. yet <3

But i hope that Paul and His Friends are Not gonna Be just A Single event, Since Lisa will be Moving out after her Graduation,There might be more events involving them and Hope there are more events with them playing around with Lisa!

I was actually discussing this very topic with another user recently - there is going to be a lot of Paul content in the next Episode especially with me changing things up a bit as there's a lot of ground to cover

Oh and no Connor / Mark are not just one event, they make up a massive portion of the events ^_^

Just saying, there is perfectly good park to make a sex pet go out for a walk at night.

I do like that park..

 

[PaleGrass]

I mentioned it a little in the Patreon post and I'm gonna expand on it in the next too but Paul's storyline is the one arc of the game I really dislike. I find it hard to reason with Paul in any way which makes it difficult to write and hard to engage myself in.

I've decided to take it in another direction - the planned scenes throughout the Paul arc remain the same or similar but the way in which they're achieved is wholly different. The problem lies in the scenes to date so depending on the reception of the upcoming Paul content it's likely I'll have to scrap a lot of his early content and re-do it. (If I do remake the older scenes I will leave the current content in the recollection room)

I know this will potentially irk some of you guys but I gotta love what I'm doing. I need to be in love with it which I'm not at the moment and I'm pretty sure it shows in the quality of the content. I think it's easier to change things now rather than a year down the line.

Just know that I'm not doing it to upset or annoy anyone, the very idea that this might happen is wracking my nerves already because of how popular Paul's content seems to be. I am so grateful to everyone who plays the game, everyone who sends me wonderful messages or drops a comment in the thread.

I am confident that this new concept is a better storyline with a much more believable premise for the little rat

 

[TheLecher]

I mentioned it a little in the Patreon post...

You also mentioned it on your SubscribeStar post, which I assume is identical to your Patreon post. At least, as someone who supports you on SubscribeStar, I hope that the posts we get there are identical to the Patreon posts.

Eventually Patreon is going to come for your game, and you're going to have to do one of three things:

1. You're going to have to move everything over to SubscribeStar and hope that your patrons on Patreon follow you over to the new platform. I think most of them would follow you, but probably not all of them.
2. You're going to cave in to Patreon, and censor yourself into oblivion, which will be the end of my interest in the game and in you as a developer of any future games.
3. You're going to have a Patreon version of the game and a SubscribeStar version of the game. The positive side of this is that, at least it isn't option 2. The negative side is that, since you have more supporters on Patreon than on SubscribeStar, the censored version of the game would probably drive development more than the uncensored version would.

... and I'm gonna expand on it in the next too but Paul's storyline is the one arc of the game I really dislike. I find it hard to reason with Paul in any way which makes it difficult to write and hard to engage myself in.

I've decided to take it in another direction - the planned scenes throughout the Paul arc remain the same or similar but the way in which they're achieved is wholly different. The problem lies in the scenes to date so depending on the reception of the upcoming Paul content it's likely I'll have to scrap a lot of his early content and re-do it. (If I do remake the older scenes I will leave the current content in the recollection room)

When I first read the post on SubscribeStar, I got the impression that your dissatisfaction was with Paul's motivation for blackmailing Lisa. I confess that I find it hard to sympathize with that perspective, because, to me, a reasonable motivation for Paul to blackmail Lisa has always been crystal clear. But, since you're the writer, I can see why you would want to have something which makes sense to you.

But a couple of the phrases above have me scratching my head. When you say that you "find it hard to reason with Paul" and that "it makes it difficult to write and hard to engage", and then you say that "the planned scenes throughout the Paul arc remain the same or similar, but the way in which they're achieved is wholly different", it makes me wonder if what you dislike isn't Paul's character or Paul's motivation, but rather blackmail as a mechanism. In particular, the statement "the way in which they're achieved is wholly different" makes me wonder if you're planning to back off of the blackmail plot device and use something else instead.

Hopefully, I'm completely misreading what you're saying. That wouldn't be too difficult, because your language has been pretty vague, so far.

I know this will potentially irk some of you guys but I gotta love what I'm doing. I need to be in love with it which I'm not at the moment and I'm pretty sure it shows in the quality of the content.

I'm a strong proponent of artists following their creative vision. And I do think that, on the whole, it's a good thing for an artist to love the art they create, since that serves to motivate them to create more. On the other hand, I think it's foolish nonsense to suggest that an artist needs to love what they're doing all of the time. Sometimes the artistic process is painful, arduous, tedious, or even tortured, and some of the best art in history has resulted from the less pleasant aspects of that process.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing for you to slavishly plod along in something which you aren't enjoying. I'm just saying that no artist loves their art all of the time, with the possible exception of the late Bob Ross, and I think it's a bad development that this has become such a widespread assumption among artists today.

As for some of us being irked, I can only speak for myself. If you need to make some alternations to Paul's motivations in order for you to find it believable, so be it. That alone wouldn't irk me, although I'm not going to assume that his new motivations will necessarily be better than they were before. As I said, in my mind, there has always been a crystal clear and highly believable reason for Paul to blackmail Lisa. Feel free to hit me up and talk about it, if you're so inclined. On the other hand, if you're planning to abandon blackmail for Paul's arc and go some other route, then that will most certainly irk me.

Also, I want to go on record as not having seen any decrease in the quality of your work. So that hasn't been as clear to at least some of us as it seems to be to you.

Just know that I'm not doing it to upset or annoy anyone, the very idea that this might happen is wracking my nerves already because of how popular Paul's content seems to be. I am so grateful to everyone who plays the game, everyone who sends me wonderful messages or drops a comment in the thread.

I am confident that this new concept is a better storyline with a much more believable premise for the little rat

See now, the fact that your nerves are wracked by the changes which you're planning, and that this is in view of how popular Paul's content has been... I'm really getting the feeling here that you want to "abort mission" on the blackmail theme. I really hope that I'm completely misreading you, which is certainly possible.

 

[PaleGrass]

You also mentioned it on your SubscribeStar post, which I assume is identical to your Patreon post. At least, as someone who supports you on SubscribeStar, I hope that the posts we get there are identical to the Patreon posts.

Yeah the content of the posts is just copy pasted though on SS it's nice because it let's you put little notes under the images which is absent on Patreon ^_^

Eventually Patreon is going to come for your game, and you're going to have to do one of three things:

1. You're going to have to move everything over to SubscribeStar and hope that your patrons on Patreon follow you over to the new platform. I think most of them would follow you, but probably not all of them.
2. You're going to cave in to Patreon, and censor yourself into oblivion, which will be the end of my interest in the game and in you as a developer of any future games.
3. You're going to have a Patreon version of the game and a SubscribeStar version of the game. The positive side of this is that, at least it isn't option 2. The negative side is that, since you have more supporters on Patreon than on SubscribeStar, the censored version of the game would probably drive development more than the uncensored version would.
   

Two versions of the game is the way I'm leaning for now with Patreon being the only site where the content is tailored though I don't know whether they'll still come after me even without posting anything against their ToS on their site.

When I first read the post on SubscribeStar, I got the impression that your dissatisfaction was with Paul's motivation for blackmailing Lisa. I confess that I find it hard to sympathize with that perspective, because, to me, a reasonable motivation for Paul to blackmail Lisa has always been crystal clear. But, since you're the writer, I can see why you would want to have something which makes sense to you.

But a couple of the phrases above have me scratching my head. When you say that you "find it hard to reason with Paul" and that "it makes it difficult to write and hard to engage", and then you say that "the planned scenes throughout the Paul arc remain the same or similar, but the way in which they're achieved is wholly different", it makes me wonder if what you dislike isn't Paul's character or Paul's motivation, but rather blackmail as a mechanism. In particular, the statement "the way in which they're achieved is wholly different" makes me wonder if you're planning to back off of the blackmail plot device and use something else instead.

Hopefully, I'm completely misreading what you're saying. That wouldn't be too difficult, because your language has been pretty vague, so far.

The new idea for Paul's story is still largely based on blackmail albeit a completely different blackmail to the photos with Viv so it isn't blackmail per say, I just don't find Paul believable as a person. He's so sadistic and so completely void of any sense of empathy that I imagine probably only happens in really broken early lives or something. It just doesn't fit quite right to me personally. The playful teasing around the house all made sense because it was and still is the case that Paul has always had a crush on Lisa, I just think it went a little crazy and I'm trying to write my way into something less "evil" or at least a different kind of evil

I know I'm the one who has written and developed all of this content that I claim to really dislike but as I've talked about before it's largely a confidence boost that has changed the way in which I do things. Paul like so many other things in the game were originally created to play as "fan service" not because they bolstered the story or because I thought they'd be good additions - I just wanted as many different avenues of content and as many "tags" as I could possibly fit and that's the God's honest truth but as time's gone on and I've shifted and moved so many pieces to make them fit into this story which I absolutely adore, I feel that Paul is perhaps the final outlier that needs remedied ^_^

I'm a strong proponent of artists following their creative vision. And I do think that, on the whole, it's a good thing for an artist to love the art they create, since that serves to motivate them to create more. On the other hand, I think it's foolish nonsense to suggest that an artist needs to love what they're doing all of the time. Sometimes the artistic process is painful, arduous, tedious, or even tortured, and some of the best art in history has resulted from the less pleasant aspects of that process.

I hear you mate, even content that isn't particularly my taste in the game to date I can still reason with the motivations of the characters and I know I probably sound like a broken record here but that is my issue with Paul.

As for some of us being irked, I can only speak for myself. If you need to make some alternations to Paul's motivations in order for you to find it believable, so be it. That alone wouldn't irk me, although I'm not going to assume that his new motivations will necessarily be better than they were before. As I said, in my mind, there has always been a crystal clear and highly believable reason for Paul to blackmail Lisa. Feel free to hit me up and talk about it, if you're so inclined. On the other hand, if you're planning to abandon blackmail for Paul's arc and go some other route, then that will most certainly irk me.

I am going to try and fit this new concept into the game as it stands currently without re-making the previous content. It isn't an easy thing to do because of the tempo shift but I'm gonna give it my best anyway, if it doesn't work then I'll probably remake some scenes or alter them (there's alterations to be made in either case). The last thing I ever want to do is irritate you guys, especially users that have been with me since the start like yourself Lecher.

See now, the fact that your nerves are wracked by the changes which you're planning, and that this is in view of how popular Paul's content has been... I'm really getting the feeling here that you want to "abort mission" on the blackmail theme. I really hope that I'm completely misreading you, which is certainly possible.

I remember back almost a year ago talking to everyone on this forum when I was so skittish about adding blackmail to the game - I think this is probably when Paul's blackmail was first written and now there are so many blackmail themes in the story (written, not implemented yet) ^_^ but no, Paul's route is still Paul's Blackmail route - though this new idea has the opportunity for multiple routes for those that aren't into blackmail stuff but I'll mull that over another time

I'm a quiet dude with scarily thin skin for anyone publicizing anything on the internet so I hope that it's at least somewhat apparent that this decision wasn't an easy one for me x

 

[brokenone222]

I remember back almost a year ago talking to everyone on this forum when I was so skittish about adding blackmail to the game - I think this is probably when Paul's blackmail was first written and now there are so many blackmail themes in the story (written, not implemented yet) ^_^ but no, Paul's route is still Paul's Blackmail route - though this new idea has the opportunity for multiple routes for those that aren't into blackmail stuff but I'll mull that over another time

I'm a quiet dude with scarily thin skin for anyone publicizing anything on the internet so I hope that it's at least somewhat apparent that this decision wasn't an easy one for me x

This is what I was a little worried about, but hearing that it's still going to be blackmail, and multiple routes really kills off that worry for me, so now it's just back to excitement.

 

[PaleGrass]

This is what I was a little worried about, but hearing that it's still going to be blackmail, and multiple routes really kills off that worry for me, so now it's just back to excitement.

Yeah buddy sorry I wasn't clear at all in my first post, the multiple route thing could be interesting though I'd need to sit and have a good think about it. Maybe I'll even do a poll on SS / Pat after this release and see if it's something folks would be interested in ^_^

 

[TheLecher]

Two versions of the game is the way I'm leaning for now with Patreon being the only site where the content is tailored though I don't know whether they'll still come after me even without posting anything against their ToS on their site.

Being careful about what you post on Patreon should provide you with some degree of protection, though exactly how much isn't certain. Patreon has been known in the past to have people checking creators' Discord channels, and some creators have claimed that action was taken against them based on things which were posted on Discord or in other places which were not Patreon.

You should also be careful about the comments which your patrons make in response to your posts on Patreon. For example, if a patron makes some comment like "more rape scenes please," or "I love all of the blackmail in this game," you should delete that comment immediately.

Basically, as long as Patreon remains unaware of any such content in your game, you can get away with it. But even if none of your posts violate their policies, if they become aware of the game containing any content which they prohibit, they'll take action against you. They've even hassled some creators about incest patches which could only be found off-site, in places like Lewd Patcher or here on F95. This is why some creators have taken to disavowing responsibility for such patches, and claiming that they're "fan made mods".

The TLDR version of the above three paragraphs is simply this: Patreon is not the place for adult game developers. And their censorship is only going to get worse as time goes on. Anyone who wants to crowd fund development of an adult game should prioritize and push alternatives, such as SubscribeStar or whatever other free speech friendly options you can find.

The new idea for Paul's story is still largely based on blackmail albeit a completely different blackmail to the photos with Viv so it isn't blackmail per say, I just don't find Paul believable as a person. He's so sadistic and so completely void of any sense of empathy that I imagine probably only happens in really broken early lives or something. It just doesn't fit quite right to me personally. The playful teasing around the house all made sense because it was and still is the case that Paul has always had a crush on Lisa, I just think it went a little crazy and I'm trying to write my way into something less "evil" or at least a different kind of evil

Well, it may be too late for me to offer any useful input. It sounds like the die is already cast. But I'm going to take the liberty of putting some of my thoughts on Paul into a DM for you. If you find it compelling, or at least an interesting read, great. If not, I'll just wait and see what the new arc looks like for Paul.

I'm a quiet dude with scarily thin skin for anyone publicizing anything on the internet so I hope that it's at least somewhat apparent that this decision wasn't an easy one for me x

Yes, it's definitely clear that you didn't take this decision lightly. I'm sure that you sweated bullets over it. I'll still hope that it's not too late (in your view) to take feedback into account.

 

[PaleGrass]

Being careful about what you post on Patreon should provide you with some degree of protection, though exactly how much isn't certain. Patreon has been known in the past to have people checking creators' Discord channels, and some creators have claimed that action was taken against them based on things which were posted on Discord or in other places which were not Patreon.

You should also be careful about the comments which your patrons make in response to your posts on Patreon. For example, if a patron makes some comment like "more rape scenes please," or "I love all of the blackmail in this game," you should delete that comment immediately.

Basically, as long as Patreon remains unaware of any such content in your game, you can get away with it. But even if none of your posts violate their policies, if they become aware of the game containing any content which they prohibit, they'll take action against you. They've even hassled some creators about incest patches which could only be found off-site, in places like Lewd Patcher or here on F95. This is why some creators have taken to disavowing responsibility for such patches, and claiming that they're "fan made mods".

The TLDR version of the above three paragraphs is simply this: Patreon is not the place for adult game developers. And their censorship is only going to get worse as time goes on. Anyone who wants to crowd fund development of an adult game should prioritize and push alternatives, such as SubscribeStar or whatever other free speech friendly options you can find.

That's wild isn't it? I feared this was the case that they would immediately shut me down even if the content was never released on Patreon. I appreciate the note about deleting comments, I have been tempted to in the past at least once because a comment mentioned something to that degree but I don't think I ended up doing it but I might have a hunt through at some point.

Well, it may be too late for me to offer any useful input. It sounds like the die is already cast. But I'm going to take the liberty of putting some of my thoughts on Paul into a DM for you. If you find it compelling, or at least an interesting read, great. If not, I'll just wait and see what the new arc looks like for Paul.

Yes, it's definitely clear that you didn't take this decision lightly. I'm sure that you sweated bullets over it. I'll still hope that it's not too late (in your view) to take feedback into account.

By all means mate, I'll be online for a wee bit yet. I'm always open to suggestions x

 

[lemonfreak]

I mentioned it a little in the Patreon post and I'm gonna expand on it in the next too but Paul's storyline is the one arc of the game I really dislike. I find it hard to reason with Paul in any way which makes it difficult to write and hard to engage myself in.

I've decided to take it in another direction - the planned scenes throughout the Paul arc remain the same or similar but the way in which they're achieved is wholly different. The problem lies in the scenes to date so depending on the reception of the upcoming Paul content it's likely I'll have to scrap a lot of his early content and re-do it. (If I do remake the older scenes I will leave the current content in the recollection room)

I know this will potentially irk some of you guys but I gotta love what I'm doing. I need to be in love with it which I'm not at the moment and I'm pretty sure it shows in the quality of the content. I think it's easier to change things now rather than a year down the line.

Just know that I'm not doing it to upset or annoy anyone, the very idea that this might happen is wracking my nerves already because of how popular Paul's content seems to be. I am so grateful to everyone who plays the game, everyone who sends me wonderful messages or drops a comment in the thread.

I am confident that this new concept is a better storyline with a much more believable premise for the little rat

I've mentioned it in the thread before but my vision for Paul is to quickly find himself out of his depth as Lisa gets more corrupted by events and she ends up turning the tables and domming him

 

[PaleGrass]

I've mentioned it in the thread before but my vision for Paul is to quickly find himself out of his depth as Lisa gets more corrupted by events and she ends up turning the tables and domming him

It's so weird you saying that mate, honestly just a few hours ago the idea of Lisa dominating Paul popped into my head. I can't even remember the context really, almost like I woke up from a dream ^_^

 

[Can't_See_77]

I've mentioned it in the thread before but my vision for Paul is to quickly find himself out of his depth as Lisa gets more corrupted by events and she ends up turning the tables and domming him

That's no fun

 

[lemonfreak]

That's no fun

Sharon takes Lisa and Paul out to eat for one of their birthdays, as the insanely attractrive female server (who is Paul's classmate) is taking their order Lisa slowly slides her her down the back of paul's trousers and starts to gently rub his ring piece. As the server turns to take his order Lisa begins to press harder, prompting an involuntary moan from Paul as blood begins flowing away from his brain

The server leaves to hand the order to the kitchen; Lisa withdraws her hand, wets her index and middle fingers and quickly returns to fingering Paul's, by now, quivering arsehole. She gently inserts a finger then begins to make slow, circular motions to relax him then pushes past the second knuckle, finding the prostate and prompting further involuntary moans from Paul.

As their entrees are delivered Lisa adds a second finger causing Paul to pop an embarassing boner in front of the server. Paul cannot eat as he's too distracted; as the server asks if everything is okay with their food Lisa presses hard and causes a prostate orgasm.

Sharon has been checking out a couple at a neighbouring table (the couple Lisa and Danny met in the forest) and is completely oblivious to the actions of her 'tenants'

 

[tom4512]

Hello, I just want more lesbians and if she's more corrupt then I shouldn't be ashamed of other girls

 

[Can't_See_77]

Sharon takes Lisa and Paul out to eat for one of their birthdays, as the insanely attractrive female server (who is Paul's classmate) is taking their order Lisa slowly slides her her down the back of paul's trousers and starts to gently rub his ring piece. As the server turns to take his order Lisa begins to press harder, prompting an involuntary moan from Paul as blood begins flowing away from his brain

The server leaves to hand the order to the kitchen; Lisa withdraws her hand, wets her index and middle fingers and quickly returns to fingering Paul's, by now, quivering arsehole. She gently inserts a finger then begins to make slow, circular motions to relax him then pushes past the second knuckle, finding the prostate and prompting further involuntary moans from Paul.

As their entrees are delivered Lisa adds a second finger causing Paul to pop an embarassing boner in front of the server. Paul cannot eat as he's too distracted; as the server asks if everything is okay with their food Lisa presses hard and causes a prostate orgasm.

Sharon has been checking out a couple at a neighbouring table (the couple Lisa and Danny met in the forest) and is completely oblivious to the actions of her 'tenants'

Nah man I rather a route where Paul remains in control. Lisa in control isn’t for me.