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shmurfer

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While I had initially hoped it would just be a relatively small edit, I didn't realize at the time that much of the fan translated script was left as direct machine translation and thus really could use a proper going over.
Shade knows, and has been intentionally delaying working on the update because the DLC was imminently releasing and thing were going to be broken anyway.

But the DLC has had legit 6 months of extra delay so it looks like it was forgotten.
 
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Shade knows, and has been intentionally delaying working on the update because the DLC was imminently releasing and thing were going to be broken anyway.

But the DLC has had legit 6 months of extra delay so it looks like it was forgotten.
not forgotten, just pointless to rewrite the translation, only for the DLC to come along and screw everything up (again)
everytime Inusuku has updated any content in the game, they add things all over the place, even in between other event locations (within the files), so the translation has to be gone through, line... by... line... by... line...
this means, no copy and paste transferring, double checking all the points and making them just a little different based on the scene (because for some reason, having 40+ different points saying the same line, really bothers people... my state changed, I WAS MOTIVATED... etc)
and yes, I use the old versions of the translation as a base, which helps, but almost every line has to be checked, made sure it's in the correct place, and then applied to the game, checked in the game (which, if it's a random event? hooo boy...) before I move onto the next section/series of lines

it's hard, hellish on the eyes, and I try to get new content updates to people here as quickly as possible without sacrificing too much quality (it's always been a case of "I can improve it later, when Inusuku stops adding more stuff and the game files more or less become static..." which hasn't happened yet)
 

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Pss, the latest versions of the FFFox Mod include translation files to help translate without losing progress between updates, plus the sex scenes are the ones that got first personal translation edits in FFFox. If you've been working on this for some time, I'm afraid you might have missed the changes brought in recent updates.
You are right, I'm definitely a little out of date at this point. Are you planning to shift every line in the game into text files? I've largely been working inside Translator++ so it has been a highly invasive edit, but certainly I could transpose things into text files instead as that gets further along. If it does end up being compatible with the eventual DLC that would certainly be a huge boon!

I do think that some editing of the base scripts will become necessary still, unfortunately, if only because of lines that need contextual translations (either due to the Japanese script itself, or sometimes simply mistranslation). There are a good number of instances where identical lines in the Shadeishere script have needed to be split because of this, which would at least require changing the text file pointed to in those cases. I'd imagine the only robust solution to this would probably be to split every single line into its own file, which would result in a lot of duplicates in order to get that flexibility.
 

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You are right, I'm definitely a little out of date at this point. Are you planning to shift every line in the game into text files? I've largely been working inside Translator++ so it has been a highly invasive edit, but certainly I could transpose things into text files instead as that gets further along. If it does end up being compatible with the eventual DLC that would certainly be a huge boon!

I do think that some editing of the base scripts will become necessary still, unfortunately, if only because of lines that need contextual translations (either due to the Japanese script itself, or sometimes simply mistranslation). There are a good number of instances where identical lines in the Shadeishere script have needed to be split because of this, which would at least require changing the text file pointed to in those cases. I'd imagine the only robust solution to this would probably be to split every single line into its own file, which would result in a lot of duplicates in order to get that flexibility.
So I'm currently about 3,000 txt files in (latest update has 2,400). I'm going through and retranslating it as it gets coded in, so as for context, I'm doing my best to make extra text files if the context is different (which happens to be less than you might think, since Inusuku doesn't copy paste many lines outside of if-then scenarios, so most lines are slightly different in amount of ellipses, punctuation, etc; the outlier may feel like the sex talk, but that's because of how huge the if-then tree is for that...).

Like Shadesishere pointed out though, moving translations between versions is a lot of work, and Inusuku just keeps adding updates, so huge props to Shadesishere for the work. This was my solution when some asked about adding in multi-lingual support for the mod, as I'm aware of at least attempts at Thai and Chinese translations for FFFox Mod specifically. And since I plan to code the DLC backwards into the modded version, all of the translation done using the txt files will carry over and not be lost when the mod gets DLC compatibility.
 

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In my ignorance, I did not expect work on this to be ongoing on so many fronts and have forged ahead amending the translation on my own. Very much appreciate the work put in to create a base translation, simply being able to distinguish between lines and labels alone is making the process much less of a headache than it has been for you trudging through the base scripts.

Porting everything to an updated version of the game is definitely going to be tedious. I've been editing at a level even farther removed from the original script (on top of FFFox's mod, on top of your translation...) so it feels inevitable that everything will need to eventually be manually copied into a new version, whenever that happens.
 

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So I'm currently about 3,000 txt files in (latest update has 2,400). I'm going through and retranslating it as it gets coded in, so as for context, I'm doing my best to make extra text files if the context is different (which happens to be less than you might think, since Inusuku doesn't copy paste many lines outside of if-then scenarios, so most lines are slightly different in amount of ellipses, punctuation, etc; the outlier may feel like the sex talk, but that's because of how huge the if-then tree is for that...).

Like Shadesishere pointed out though, moving translations between versions is a lot of work, and Inusuku just keeps adding updates, so huge props to Shadesishere for the work. This was my solution when some asked about adding in multi-lingual support for the mod, as I'm aware of at least attempts at Thai and Chinese translations for FFFox Mod specifically. And since I plan to code the DLC backwards into the modded version, all of the translation done using the txt files will carry over and not be lost when the mod gets DLC compatibility.
Thank you for your service (`・ω・´)ゞ

My observations about context come directly from the work I've done so far, and can honestly be as trivial as swapping a "Yeah", with an, "Okay". Other cases will be things like the machine translation having ignored part of a line (like a 「ん…」 getting replaced with "...", which then gets lumped in with other lines). In any event, I might as well just continue along as-is for now since the whole thing is going to need to be ported based on whatever changes Inusuku makes, and having the revised translations ready will still be better than not.

Silly aside, in my working version I disabled the language button you added as the feature was too incomplete (and my work focuses only on one language anyway) that it seemed superfluous. It sounds like eventually that will no longer be the case!
 
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CoyBoat275

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Sharing this save here cause I think I did pretty well on my second playthrough and it doesn't look like it'll hurt to have a backup in here.

So far on this save:
Day 26 Friday
Ready Lolicon Onii-chan
AP bar is at max of 70
Money at 4100 G
Policy: Lunch Box Life AKA Bento Seikatsu
Guild Rep.: Village's bar

Stats:
ATK: 96
TEC: 66
DEF: 54
GUT: 55
WIS: 45
Skillpts: 17

Current event:
Think of countermeasures: 7 days left
It's the guild merger event

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Attached are screenshots for further reference.
Save file don't work, sad
 

TheBigFrog

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Can anyone tell me how to get the last favor for Kana? I've been playing this game for so long and I didn't realize that her favor points is not full yet.
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Nekorem14

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Hi, Can anyone advise me how to make cum progress increase faster?

I increase my vigor to max (9) but even i start H scen after dinner still can maximum cum at 4
 

Kaiki-tan

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Can I avoid Incest?
I've seen the "is NTR avoidable?" and "is scat avoidable?", but I've never seen anything like this tho lmao. You can play technically play without doing anything lewd with her, yet why want to avoid the sister/incest content in a game called "living with sister"? What's next, you gonna tell me there's NTR content in a game that has NTR in the title?
 

Mommysbuttslut

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I've seen the "is NTR avoidable?" and "is scat avoidable?", but I've never seen anything like this tho lmao. You can play technically play without doing anything lewd with her, yet why want to avoid the sister/incest content in a game called "living with sister"? What's next, you gonna tell me there's NTR content in a game that has NTR in the title?
Pretty sure you can avoid all lewd content in Teaching Feeling from your sig too. Some times just having a wholesome life sim is fun. Maybe I'm just crazy but it's also kinda fun avoiding lewd content for ridiculously long time, building relationship really really high and then throwing all the wholesome out the window and just fucking the shit out of the girl on like day 50.
 
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Kaiki-tan

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Pretty sure you can avoid all lewd content in Teaching Feeling from your sig too. Some times just having a wholesome life sim is fun. Maybe I'm just crazy but it's also kinda fun avoiding lewd content for ridiculously long time, building relationship really really high and then throwing all the wholesome out the window and just fucking the shit out of the girl on like day 50.
I mean, that's true. Although it's always funny to me thinking about specifically playing an Eroge game and avoiding the Ero part of Eroge hehe. You'd be intentionally avoiding the majority of the content of the game, unless you're planning to do multiple runs (which I often do myself, virgin/clean runs are pretty fun in some games).

Edit: Though I get what you mean, but don't forget that the lewds can also be part of the wholesomeness if done right. You don't need to fuck the shit out of the girl lad lol, if you do that to your gf irl you might be cooked.
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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I mean, that's true. Although it's always funny to me thinking about specifically playing an Eroge game and avoiding the Ero part of Eroge hehe. You'd be intentionally avoiding the majority of the content of the game, unless you're planning to do multiple runs (which I often do myself, virgin/clean runs are pretty fun in some games).

Edit: Though I get what you mean, but don't forget that the lewds can also be part of the wholesomeness if done right.
Definitely, but this game lets you play it both ways kinda.
You don't need to fuck the shit out of the girl lad lol, if you do that to your gf irl you might be cooked.
Oh absolutely, unless it's part of an extremely well communicated consented play.
For a game like this though there's a dark humor and sick enjoyment of getting sis's love to 1000, interest to under 100 and then waking her up with a cream pie in the middle of the night.
 
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Kaiki-tan

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Definitely, but this game lets you play it both ways kinda.

Oh absolutely, unless it's part of an extremely well communicated consented play.
For a game like this though there's a dark humor and sick enjoyment of getting sis's love to 1000, interest to under 100 and then waking her up with a cream pie in the middle of the night.
Kinda, I guess. Plus the DLC will definitely add a bit more variety. Though obviously the main focus of this game will always be the imouto content, in facts it's this dev Inusuku's specialty. And I mean, you're encouraged to treat her gently and kindly, because she can get sick and literally die if you overdo it before completing the great adventure. Though it's nice it allows many ways to play it, with FFFox mod it adds even more.

Also lol you caught me off guard, I honestly always max out both and try to finish great adventure first. It is fair though both as humor or fetish, I mean it is a thing for some siscons I'd assume, right? :unsure:
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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Also lol you caught me off guard, I honestly always max out both and try to finish great adventure first. It is fair though both as humor or fetish, I mean it is a thing for some siscons I'd assume, right? :unsure:
I mean I never really thought too deeply about it but it seems like it could be a very natural progression for a siscon. Trying to fight the urge to screw around with sis over and over again, spoiling the shit out of her to express the siscon tendencies safely but always holding back on making a move out of either moral decency, fear for their relationship or fear of societal consequence until it all boils over.
 

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I mean I never really thought too deeply about it but it seems like it could be a very natural progression for a siscon. Trying to fight the urge to screw around with sis over and over again, spoiling the shit out of her to express the siscon tendencies safely but always holding back on making a move out of either moral decency, fear for their relationship or fear of societal consequence until it all boils over.
It would be a treat if you could play it in such a way that you can avoid initiating, but eventually she gets too interested herself and starts making moves. Very common in other media in the genre.

How long can you reject her? And if you try too hard to be a responsible Onii-chan, what if she ends up with some scumbag instead? Imouto NTR is true pain.
 

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It would be a treat if you could play it in such a way that you can avoid initiating, but eventually she gets too interested herself and starts making moves. Very common in other media in the genre.

How long can you reject her? And if you try too hard to be a responsible Onii-chan, what if she ends up with some scumbag instead? Imouto NTR is true pain.
She won't go all the way unless you do it first, so you can choose to keep the status quo indefinitely. Like roleplaying a monk who has to resist/ignore the advances of his very horny younger sister.

I'm pretty sure there's a few manga with this premise...
 
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