FrontalZp

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Your utilization of the spoiler tag for saving room on a lengthy post is impressive.
the common understanding most people have of scenario based attributes for a game mob such as a leech less so.
let me explain briefly. Sexual game. Sexual setting. Large leeches typical in dungeons and caves or near waterways. some tiny thousands sucking life out of adventurers, or large ones dropping from ceilings to laughably engorge someone’s upper torso. Result choice for words: Annoying and surprising and deadly in large numbers.
TLDR Leeches are for diversion and surprising and disease damage over time. Tentacles are seen as attack focused entities. Glow with the flow, just dont seizure, ya’know!
Edit: oh, and saves are earned, not just awarded. Ask nicer, we’re real ppl.
 

RLJFZ

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I just grabbed the latest one from few post earlier 9.4.0.4
Grab the 0.9.3.0 as well on the first post of this thread since Water Nova's damage in the latest version has been doubled, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison if we go from that, since we're mainly talking about experience that happened on older version. This is a save for 0.9.3.0, with Lona being right in front of the captain at the port. Give him the gold and rebirth to respec trait points, then go to the bank to grab the Vile Scepter. You can also use this save for 0.9.4.0.4 but you need to rebirth in order to avoid any fatal bugs.
 

licher

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Good. Make sure that Lona reaches 100 WIS stat so we can fairly compare. Since I'm pretty busy I'll post my own videos comparison on a later day.
didn't go full 100, never did but doesn't matter 80~90 is plenty

 

RLJFZ

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didn't go full 100, never did but doesn't matter 80~90 is plenty

Alright just watched the full vid. For one, you used Electric Discharge 90% of the time so this was more a demonstration of this skill instead of Vile Scepter. In the rare case you used Vile Scepter, it was on a single mob, and many of those leeches died or took time to get a hit on the mob when they were summoned while there were many mobs around. This is an extremely niche use of Vile Scepter and the only time those leeches are somehow useful is when the ennemies they're attacking aren't fighting back. With Abomination Totem's tentacle and the other magic items you could have saved several amount of stamina while taking care of those archers and every mobs around the area without getting so much hit on you.

You said this on a previous post
water nova only gets good at high wis against fast moving archers, try fighting multiple of them at the same time while having >30 wis total.
that last statement made it sound like Vile Scepter is good against multiple mobs, or rather multiple archer mobs that are gathered in high numbers in a single area, but I didn't see that demonstrated in the video.
 

licher

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Alright just watched the full vid. For one, you used Electric Discharge 90% of the time so this was more a demonstration of this skill instead of Vile Scepter. In the rare case you used Vile Scepter, it was on a single mob, and many of those leeches died or took time to get a hit on the mob when they were summoned while there were many mobs around. This is an extremely niche use of Vile Scepter and the only time those leeches are somehow useful is when the ennemies they're attacking aren't fighting back. With Abomination Totem's tentacle and the other magic items you could have saved several amount of stamina while taking care of those archers and every mobs around the area without getting so much hit on you.

You said this on a previous post

that last statement made it sound like Vile Scepter is good against multiple mobs, or rather multiple archer mobs that are gathered in high numbers in a single area, but I didn't see that demonstrated in the video.
except you forgot my very first post, "vile scepter is best counter against gob archers and runners ", I never said to use it on everything. because discharge kills everything easily but can't do it with archers and runners so vile scepters become alternative to it, you can see as leech chases archer you can put discharge on their path if you want fast kill @3:10 or use it to take away archer's aggro on you @4:10.

you don't go vile on everything. it is good for multiple archers except I didn't get the archer goblins encounters because RNG, as you see you get plenty of relax time when leeches are chasing archers you just pop them out indefinitely for multiple archers. thing is we don't need to buff it to be more OP, lona is already easy as it is, eccma buff lona (23~27 def mage, 80% of mobs hits for 1 damage) so much + mobs attack like molasses now, the game is a joke now that's why I deleted the game in the first place because it's too easy now.
 

AleDerXan

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Ok I think I know, it's due to the mod which you most likely don't have. Minute.
A made "save fix" to allow lodaing saves maked with mods that now is deleted in game.

It delets states, items, skills from player data if it doesnt exist in game before start playing after loading save.
It helps with deleted mods and changed load order to.
 
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AleDerXan

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With the further merging of UMM into the game in B.0.9.4.0.4, there should no longer be a need to disable the UMM check in Cheat Menu Framework's __init__.rb file.

It should work as released.

As for the rest of the changes in the game, as always, please create an issue on the mod's issue tracker if any part of Cheat Menu isn't working anymore.
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Capybara Isekai

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you did read the error right? Did you try to make sense of what it means? That usually helps a lot.
Looks like it’s saying the file named “commonNpc.txt” is missing from the “MTL” language folder.
- Try putting the original unstranslated file in a separate folder with the game .exe.
-run mtl on the folder. Then move the text file to your MTL language Folder.
-if that doesn’t work, rename it to what the game is showing you should be there.
Thank you for your answer.
I located commonNPC.txt file, but I don't know what to do, it is something about \optB but I really don't know what I need to edit to fix it.
 

Noah Neim

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Im planning on playing this game soon so i gotta ask, is it worth playing the older translated version and wait for it to be translated (if it ever will) or is the mtl decent enough where it doesnt take away from the quality of the game
 

Kenny567

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Well then, guess Eccma needs to do some further merging.

Until then, continue to disable the check in __init__.rb as previously mentioned.

To be fair, I didn't test it but merely checked over the code in the game files. Guess I didn't look deep enough :oops:

EDIT: Further digging through code reveals that the Mod Settings class is missing from Eccma's merge of UMM, though I don't know if that is the cause of the error.
 
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Kenny567

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Im planning on playing this game soon so i gotta ask, is it worth playing the older translated version and wait for it to be translated (if it ever will) or is the mtl decent enough where it doesnt take away from the quality of the game
Play the latest and process it with the MTL tool.

The older "translated" version is not actually translated, but has merely been pre-MTL'd.

For the most part, the MTL'd stuff is decent enough while still being fairly obvious that it is MTL. In general, only the new stuff is MTL quality.

Ideally the order of installing the latest version is as follows: (after downloading everything required)

1. Extract the latest version of the game.
2. Merge in the latest text from the LonaLang project on gitgud.
3. Translate the remaining untranslated text using the MTL Tool.
 
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