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SunlessXre

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Can you take the refugee camp together with you while you're out slaying things in a god know where forgotten evil lair in a corner far away from civilization ?
i spent all my points in WIS. i just enter any nearby woods, kill some animals, and pick all the fruit(and herbs). always a decent gain in terms of total energy (food+energy). 3-4 wood maps is usually enough for me to continue adventure. doesn't help with the health damage though lol.

once i finish whatever mission or venture, i always have a surplus of fruit, and i haven't needed the herbs. which gives bonus $'s
i'm early game though.
 

rngtan

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Can you take the refugee camp together with you while you're out slaying things in a god know where forgotten evil lair in a corner far away from civilization ?
No, but there are some interesting strats for dumping SUR, at least beyond Hard where raw food doesn't carry over maps.

I do have 100 morality through hunting bandits. If I were to practice some moral relativity (and cannibalism) I would use that buffer to shank/juice some local bums and use the local cauldron to make some Smoked Meat or Good Gruel for long travels. Lunch.
 

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i spent all my points in WIS. i just enter any nearby woods, kill some animals, and pick all the fruit(and herbs). always a decent gain in terms of total energy (food+energy). 3-4 wood maps is usually enough for me to continue adventure. doesn't help with the health damage though lol.

once i finish whatever mission or venture, i always have a surplus of fruit, and i haven't needed the herbs. which gives bonus $'s
i'm early game though.
Careful with that. Sometimes Lona will contract whatever it's called where she just keeps throwing up.
And no, it's not pregnancy.
 

RenH

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To be fair, both her and Lona are likely severely malnourished/ malnutrition-ed which can cause delayed puberty for years or even worse they might never properly mature if the time window's already passed.
Cocona lived alone her whole life too so might explain her acting the way she does.
No worries, am only joking around. Though, let's be honest, the Sybaris crisis iirc happened not that long ago and the tutorial implies that Lona arrived less than a year ago which makes the delayed puberty argument less likely though late bloomers are a thing. Unless she has always come from a poor family or I'm misremembering when the fall of Sybaris happened, I'm a bit skeptical about Lona being 21.

Fully agree on Cocona, though. No arguments here.
 
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Yukihirou

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No worries, am only joking around. Though, let's be honest, the Sybaris crisis iirc happened not that long ago and the tutorial implies that Lona arrived less than a year ago which makes the delayed puberty argument less likely though late bloomers are a thing. Unless she has always come from a poor family or I'm misremembering when the fall of Sybaris happened, I'm a bit skeptical about Lona being 21.

Fully agree on Cocona, though. No arguments here.
My niece, a real asian beauty, 31 years old, baby face, 1.54m in height. Is she still a loli though ? This is a common thing in asia. Many western guys flock here to marry such petite girls though...
Beside, I mainly chalk this off to Eccma's artistic vision of Lona. Now if only he draws more Cecily aka the western bimbo archetype. Well, a man can dream.
 
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SunlessXre

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Careful with that. Sometimes Lona will contract whatever it's called where she just keeps throwing up.
And no, it's not pregnancy.
think i had that once. but it seems to of just disappeared after an inn rest. was surprised too. thought i'd have to go through this whole song and dance curing it
 

SunlessXre

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btw guys. any ways to boost Morality? i'm 7hrs in, and just completed the quest where you save cocona from the church of the saint. i read in an earlier post something about a criminal, and some fake papers? but even in the criminal districts, i'm getting attacked by pretty much everyone lol.
my moralities down at -10.

or, maybe there's a way within the quest itself? i returned to the inn with cocona, but had to leave instantly, because they were going savage on me lol. don't think i've ever seen a group of randoms band together so quickly over something like slaying my "evil" hide. i went back in, and walked past everyone, and cocona's uninteractible(sleeping on bed). so i'm assuming that's a bad sign.

but yeah, i'm not even sure if the quest is complete.
 

thehotness

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btw guys. any ways to boost Morality? i'm 7hrs in, and just completed the quest where you save cocona from the church of the saint. i read in an earlier post something about a criminal, and some fake papers? but even in the criminal districts, i'm getting attacked by pretty much everyone lol.
my moralities down at -10.

or, maybe there's a way within the quest itself? i returned to the inn with cocona, but had to leave instantly, because they were going savage on me lol. don't think i've ever seen a group of randoms band together so quickly over something like slaying my "evil" hide. i went back in, and walked past everyone, and cocona's uninteractible(sleeping on bed). so i'm assuming that's a bad sign.

but yeah, i'm not even sure if the quest is complete.
In the market near the north gate (the one with the piercing fish guy), speak to the bandit in the left bottom corner, he offers papers.

If you save cocona from the saint, your morality is reset, so something else is making your morality low.

Cocona will wake up if you wait a day (normally)

Other ways to boost morality is do the sewer quest multiple times.

Or you can also just allow yourself to get caught, surrender to the guards and survive jail for 1 week. If you survive it (easy to do on hard mode), then your morality is reset.
 

SunlessXre

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My niece, a real asian beauty, 31 years old, baby face, 1.54m in height. Is she still a loli though ? This is a common thing in asia. Many western guys flock here to marry such petite girls though...
Beside, I mainly chalk this off to Eccma's artistic vision of Lona. Now if only he draws more Cecily aka the western bimbo archetype. Well, a man can dream.
i wouldn't say it's just in asia, or among those of eastern asian blood. but it's not that common in, I would say most 1st world countries.
i personally haven't really seen any extremely young looking easterners in person though, and i see alot of them lol. they seem to come for the coast here for holiday's i guess. And you have alot of asian locals. (i'm in Australia)

although, I have seen a couple really young and small looking adults here aswell. and you of course always see them on porn sites or w/e, with the less mature looking guys and girls to fill in that market. most of the ones i've seen in person are white. likely because they are the majority in my area. on porn sites it's a big mix.

and yeah, i think your niece could fit the definition of loli, as a pubescent or pre-pubescent girl in appearance.
for height though. average height here for women in aus, is about 5'5. so 5'4 isn't all that uncommon.

i'll touch on the malnourish thing. i think it's kind of interesting. boys for example, who don't recieve any, or enough testosterone will pretty much grow indefinitely, because testosterone is one of the hormones responsible for both starting puberty, and ultimately closing the growth plates. alot of them will surpass 6'. even if they wouldn't have otherwise.

yet, people in the medieval period all supposedly looked much younger and less mature because they hit puberty later. but were also alot shorter than we are now, with men averaging at i think 5'5-5'7 in europe. likely similar or a bit smaller in other places.
you'll see even among nobles that many of the plate harnesses made were for smaller statured men.(not how tall they are when mounted on a stand, but by the size and fit of the armor components.)

but yeah. malnourishment definitely plays a huge factor in growth and appearance, and was one of the things that prevented most people of the pre-industrial age from ever completely reaching physical maturity as we do today. i guess that would be both a blessing and a curse.
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edit: lol, just realized you're the guy i gave the game rec's too, and i've been singling out all your replies by coincidence.
if you end up liking any of those games, just give me a reply. just want to make sure i'm recommending the right games. that goes for everyone aswell.
and as said in my earlier replies. if anyone knows another awesome H game like this, link us! it's always good to have more games to play. i'm personally looking for one where you can play as a Male MC.
 
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SunlessXre

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In the market near the north gate (the one with the piercing fish guy), speak to the bandit in the left bottom corner, he offers papers.

If you save cocona from the saint, your morality is reset, so something else is making your morality low.

Cocona will wake up if you wait a day (normally)

Other ways to boost morality is do the sewer quest multiple times.

Or you can also just allow yourself to get caught, surrender to the guards and survive jail for 1 week. If you survive it (easy to do on hard mode), then your morality is reset.
my morality was at 38 pre-quest. but thankyou. i'll try those things.
 

rngtan

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I don't have low morality right now, but is Cecily hostile to you at low morality? Hypothetically you could do quests in Doom Fortress using Cecily to bypass the gatekeeper.
 

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Do weapons break in this game? I had the sword from the sewers but now it's just gone. Never sold it or anything.
 

Yukihirou

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edit: lol, just realized you're the guy i gave the game rec's too, and i've been singling out all your replies by coincidence.
if you end up liking any of those games, just give me a reply. just want to make sure i'm recommending the right games. that goes for everyone aswell.
and as said in my earlier replies. if anyone knows another awesome H game like this, link us! it's always good to have more games to play. i'm personally looking for one where you can play as a Male MC.
Yeah, I'm particularly pleased A Struggle with Sin right now. If you want a very good and complex open world RPG packed with plenty of management I can highly recommend:
https://f95zone.to/threads/portals-of-phereon-0-17-0-syvaron.7803/
3 Main character, one male, 2 female (well, one of them is futa). Each character has a different gameplay. It's SRPG like Heroes of Might and Magic. You conquer portals that are procedurally generated. Your main job is...complicated, it's a real headache to get familiar with the management aspect of the game but you will get there eventually if you like the game.
The Male MC playstyle IMHO is the easiest to play for newbie so I think it will fit you nicely.
 

rngtan

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Do weapons break in this game? I had the sword from the sewers but now it's just gone. Never sold it or anything.
No. You can drop them, you can stash them, you can be stripped of equipment by enemies, but they don't decay in the inventory (unless it's raw food in the higher difficulty).
 

RenH

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My niece, a real asian beauty, 31 years old, baby face, 1.54m in height. Is she still a loli though ? This is a common thing in asia. Many western guys flock here to marry such petite girls though...
Beside, I mainly chalk this off to Eccma's artistic vision of Lona. Now if only he draws more Cecily aka the western bimbo archetype. Well, a man can dream.
Hey man, it's cool. Like I mentioned earlier, my initial post was meant to be a joke and my own general observation. Besides, I should know that height/babyface statistic better than anyone since I'm also Asian myself. Have an aunt whose height makes me feel like I'm a Titan standing next to her when I'm only just shy of 1.7m by comparison. Have relatives that look 30 when they're pushing 50, that kind of deal.

If my posts about the dev's artistic style and possible skirting of the loli tag upset you or anyone here, then I'm sorry. Won't repeat that again.
 

Yukihirou

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Hey man, it's cool. Like I mentioned earlier, my initial post was meant to be a joke and my own general observation. Besides, I should know that height/babyface statistic better than anyone since I'm also Asian myself. Have an aunt whose height makes me feel like I'm a Titan standing next to her when I'm only just shy of 1.7m by comparison. Have relatives that look 30 when they're pushing 50, that kind of deal.

If my posts about the dev's artistic style and possible skirting of the loli tag upset you or anyone here, then I'm sorry. Won't repeat that again.
Nah, just want to share some story. No offense taken. Though a lot of grown ass "adult" just want to jump at the loli stuff without considering for a second if it's lolita or loli.
 
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