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bucefala

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The sexiest and coolest costumes in my opinion, sex doll and whore outfit, are genuinely useless. The only thing they help with is prostitution and dancing and the money gains arent even big. The sex doll outfit doesnt let you equip weapons, and the whore outfit has 0 defence and also decreases weakness, which you need if you want to play as a succubus.
Piercings are crucial as a succubus build, but they make you get attacked in every inn you go, so you need to cover them up, which wearing both those outfits wont do.
Sexiness in battle has no purpose, which sucks, you can have like max sexiness like 300, and they still hit you as normal and never attempt to grab you. Only weakness is taken into account.

Sadly you need weakness as a succubus build, because if you get spotted just one time and cant lose aggro, you are done.

Sucks so much...
 
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bobi121

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The sexiest and coolest costumes in my opinion, sex doll and whore outfit, are genuinely useless. The only thing they help with is prostitution and dancing and the money gains arent even big. The sex doll outfit doesnt let you equip weapons, and the whore outfit has 0 defence and also decreases weakness, which you need if you want to play as a succubus.
Piercings are crucial as a succubus build, but they make you get attacked in every inn you go, so you need to cover them up, which wearing both those outfits wont do.
Sexiness in battle has no purpose, which sucks, you can have like max sexiness like 300, and they still hit you as normal and never attempt to grab you. Only weakness is taken into account.

Sadly you need weakness as a succubus build, because if you get spotted just one time and cant lose aggro, you are done.

Sucks so much...
Еccma really needs to add more clothes and i see very little issue or difficulty him drawing some and puting them in the game. It is not like he is drawing whole poses. Just slap a cloth, some ornaments and done. I think the game is more of a hobby to him rather than something he commits to.
Also Succubus is absolutely OP. She drains big goblins for 2-3 seconds resulting in their death. Only weakness is her fighting enemies she can't juice.
 

souldray

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Oh, finally find the way configure for monster's have sex only with the way you want, without fisting, urethra and ets...Even without sex whatsoever, if you have crazy-Blowjob fetish for instance. Though it not really that easy...
 
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piconwall

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quick question: how do you make women in orkind nests crawl faster or are there any alternatives? I'm pretty sick of their pathfinding
The only way you can "slightly" speed up their crawl speed is if you are playing healer Lona. Healing their health and removing injuries significantly improves crawling NPCs.
 

piconwall

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The sexiest and coolest costumes in my opinion, sex doll and whore outfit, are genuinely useless. The only thing they help with is prostitution and dancing and the money gains arent even big. The sex doll outfit doesnt let you equip weapons, and the whore outfit has 0 defence and also decreases weakness, which you need if you want to play as a succubus.
Piercings are crucial as a succubus build, but they make you get attacked in every inn you go, so you need to cover them up, which wearing both those outfits wont do.
Sexiness in battle has no purpose, which sucks, you can have like max sexiness like 300, and they still hit you as normal and never attempt to grab you. Only weakness is taken into account.

Sadly you need weakness as a succubus build, because if you get spotted just one time and cant lose aggro, you are done.

Sucks so much...
You can earn up to 5 copper coins every prostitution at the high end club in Noer. High Constitution Whore Lona can make very reasonable income if you alternate between whoring at night and doing some gladiator fights during the day (just save/load until you're fighting with juicing compatible enemies). It becomes particularly easy to juke in the gladiator given the whore outfit gives movement speed bonus so you don't need to sprint to outrun enemies in the arena. Sexiness is only necessary to hit the threshold of seducing the high end club goers. There is no reason to dial weakness or sexiness to extremes, and I don't see why it matters when Constitution is the main influential attribute for Succubus build. Piercings is entirely not essential, especially if you rebirth into Moot where you hit the sexy and weakness thresholds without requiring piercings. Hell, human Lona can strip naked and most enemies will switch to coupling half the time if she doesn't hold a weapon in hand.

Succubus Lona is one of the most low risk builds with some hard-counters that you can simply play around. Not juiceable? Just hire mercenaries for any real battles. Suck and blow anything else that can be sucked and blown.

On a side note but one of the easiest ways to make easy income before the change to seedbed (Womb) was just pumping out goblin babies while at 10 stack seedbed. Now that it forces you to lactate like a tap on full, it is a lot less viable given how much it saps Lona's stamina. Not sure if it's an intentional nerf but it sure as hell denied an easy money maker.
 

Olp3K

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You can earn up to 5 copper coins every prostitution at the high end club in Noer. High Constitution Whore Lona can make very reasonable income if you alternate between whoring at night and doing some gladiator fights during the day (just save/load until you're fighting with juicing compatible enemies). It becomes particularly easy to juke in the gladiator given the whore outfit gives movement speed bonus so you don't need to sprint to outrun enemies in the arena. Sexiness is only necessary to hit the threshold of seducing the high end club goers. There is no reason to dial weakness or sexiness to extremes, and I don't see why it matters when Constitution is the main influential attribute for Succubus build. Piercings is entirely not essential, especially if you rebirth into Moot where you hit the sexy and weakness thresholds without requiring piercings. Hell, human Lona can strip naked and most enemies will switch to coupling half the time if she doesn't hold a weapon in hand.

Succubus Lona is one of the most low risk builds with some hard-counters that you can simply play around. Not juiceable? Just hire mercenaries for any real battles. Suck and blow anything else that can be sucked and blown.

On a side note but one of the easiest ways to make easy income before the change to seedbed (Womb) was just pumping out goblin babies while at 10 stack seedbed. Now that it forces you to lactate like a tap on full, it is a lot less viable given how much it saps Lona's stamina. Not sure if it's an intentional nerf but it sure as hell denied an easy money maker.
There is a way where you can earn a lot of money.

Make yourself a slave with the fishmen and sell the libido potions that are on the altars.
But it's not easy to get out of there alive.
But there is a healing potion and enough food.
but if you escape you have to cross the island and build another flos to get off the island, because you have the slave sign.
 
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piconwall

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There is a way where you can earn a lot of money.

Make yourself a slave with the fishmen and sell the libido potions that are on the altars.
But it's not easy to get out of there alive.
But there is a healing potion and enough food.
but if you escape you have to cross the island and build another flos to get off the island, because you have the slave sign.
I don't doubt that it's easy to make money by taking advantage of certain mechanics. It's just risky like you have mentioned. Whore Lona has minimal risk of danger while making very reasonable income.
 

Olp3K

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I don't doubt that it's easy to make money by taking advantage of certain mechanics. It's just risky like you have mentioned. Whore Lona has minimal risk of danger while making very reasonable income.
That's right, I haven't tried that yet.

I just noticed the other one with the fish people.

Of course, it's hard to get back into town afterwards, since you have to get past the guards with the slave sign. That is, you have to go through the cave with the orcs.
 

Of_Ill_Omens

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Crawling girls are intentionally slow, fireman carry was not invented yet.
Whore's outfit good for staying clean and going fast (sanic speed).
Ironically +Weak of cheap piercings is very good for Tough Lona. Tough personality is -Weak, having weapon is -Weak, but with full stack of +Weak piercings, get naked, and drunk, and the right hairstyle, and maybe getting dirty, and maybe being Moot, stacks together so much +Weak enemies always try to molest, even when getting halberd to the face. And in town with clothes on, no molestation. For Succ Lona it's sometimes good to stun enemies for easier grab.
Money making was easier in old version because treasure chest refresh was immediate, now you need to whore or run cooking mama loops.
 
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Small Additions to the Guide... the Sequel.
Link to part 1

You might be wondering why I have added yet another piece to the ever growing guide list. Honestly it is due to it getting harder to format due to its length and how I am only on a phone.

Current Version is 7.9, and I will be switching to being a mage for this one. Anything different in any of the quests due to the change will be addressed.
 
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bucefala

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You can earn up to 5 copper coins every prostitution at the high end club in Noer. High Constitution Whore Lona can make very reasonable income if you alternate between whoring at night and doing some gladiator fights during the day (just save/load until you're fighting with juicing compatible enemies). It becomes particularly easy to juke in the gladiator given the whore outfit gives movement speed bonus so you don't need to sprint to outrun enemies in the arena. Sexiness is only necessary to hit the threshold of seducing the high end club goers. There is no reason to dial weakness or sexiness to extremes, and I don't see why it matters when Constitution is the main influential attribute for Succubus build. Piercings is entirely not essential, especially if you rebirth into Moot where you hit the sexy and weakness thresholds without requiring piercings. Hell, human Lona can strip naked and most enemies will switch to coupling half the time if she doesn't hold a weapon in hand.

Succubus Lona is one of the most low risk builds with some hard-counters that you can simply play around. Not juiceable? Just hire mercenaries for any real battles. Suck and blow anything else that can be sucked and blown.

On a side note but one of the easiest ways to make easy income before the change to seedbed (Womb) was just pumping out goblin babies while at 10 stack seedbed. Now that it forces you to lactate like a tap on full, it is a lot less viable given how much it saps Lona's stamina. Not sure if it's an intentional nerf but it sure as hell denied an easy money maker.
For combat, dirty rags outfit is much better for juiceable enemies. They literally start jerking of in front of you or try to slowly grab you. With whore outfit, if you are found out, its very hard to land the juice ability because you have low weakness enemies go full on, and with whore outfit you have a pathetic 3 defence, and with dirty rags you have 12. The speed is not enough to make up for all this.

Thats what saddens me, I love those outfits, but you always have to take them out when actually playing the game, so I find myself barely using them at all.

Piercing are good because you can hit weakness level with weapons equiped, very important because the second an enemy sees you juice somebody to death, they will stop horny mode and hit heavy, and not having shield and a weapon when you cant afford to run around and aggro other enemies is hard.

You are right about the money from prostitution being good, but since I found out it loosenes wholes and loosened wholes lower heavily sex damage, I just didnt enjoy doing it. It seems like something you do in the endgame after finishing missions and just needing to get enough gold coins.
 

bucefala

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Crawling girls are intentionally slow, fireman carry was not invented yet.
Whore's outfit good for staying clean and going fast (sanic speed).
Ironically +Weak of cheap piercings is very good for Tough Lona. Tough personality is -Weak, having weapon is -Weak, but with full stack of +Weak piercings, get naked, and drunk, and the right hairstyle, and maybe getting dirty, and maybe being Moot, stacks together so much +Weak enemies always try to molest, even when getting halberd to the face. And in town with clothes on, no molestation. For Succ Lona it's sometimes good to stun enemies for easier grab.
Money making was easier in old version because treasure chest refresh was immediate, now you need to whore or run cooking mama loops.
Any ways to stun besides backstab when the enemy is unalerted? Weapons that deal stamina damage have higher chances to stun? Even if the answer is yes, sadly you cannot stun enemies with ambush with 2 handed weapons, so most often succubus Lona will have equiped one handed weapon.
 

FruitSmoothie

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Magic more viable now than like two years ago without having to rebirth Lona into that deepone version or whatever? Always loved the magic builds, but I don't like having to intentionally lose to get some better magic stuff. Went to look at the changelog and it's all bugfixes lol.

Man, it's really been 2 years since I played this.

Edit: Ah, found the wiki. If the guides there for magic are up to date, seems it's still recommended to be pretty overleveled to make magic more viable. Actually seems like not all that much has changed in 2 years. At least there's a heal skill and some divine equips now. Those seem interesting.
 
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Of_Ill_Omens

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Any ways to stun besides backstab when the enemy is unalerted? Weapons that deal stamina damage have higher chances to stun? Even if the answer is yes, sadly you cannot stun enemies with ambush with 2 handed weapons, so most often succubus Lona will have equiped one handed weapon.
Traps, Stun mines from Lisa (heavy, but succ should have good Con = carry limit), and relic from Mountain Monastery. Non-juicable enemies are manageable with traps/mines/boomstick, besides there really isn't many. Main problem with Succ approach is in stealth maps because enemy can raise alarm while getting juiced.

Actually seems like not all that much has changed in 2 years. At least there's a heal skill and some divine equips now. Those seem interesting.
A little catch that Acolyte (ally healing) and Magical Weapons are mutually exclusive, this is intentional. The main updates in past ~2 years were abomination rebirth, finishing Cocona questline (I think Lisa questline was already done back then) besides that several new locations/enemies/quests in Coastal Fortress and Sybaris region, few new locations/quests elsewhere, 1 new outfit, few new items, 1 new h-pose (plus 1 more in works), couple fashion accessories. There is update every month usually dozen bugfixes and 2-3 items of new content. For a solo dev it's alright progress. Just sometimes the dev has strange priorities, Cecily questline is still unfinished, she should go on the boat too. Lona's hairy asshole more important than saving another friend? :confused:
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