VN Ren'Py Long Road Home [Ep.15] [OBDGames]

[indio68]

Fear not. But I won't spoil.

 

[ViktorStagnetti]

The ending kind of irritated me, to be honest. Like I get it, biker gang and all that but Stan and Della like to act as if they have some sort of moral high ground over Barb and Willie but they are just as manipulative. Lost some respect for them. Poor Angelica always getting used up for others agendas and just when she was starting to trust again.

It would have sat better with me, the reader, if the scheme was revealed later after it unfolded. At the very least, the MC should have had some inner dialogue about suspicions because he's definitely not stupid enough to think that shiny ass ring had been exposed to the elements for years.

 

[c3p0]

The ending kind of irritated me, to be honest. Like I get it, biker gang and all that but Stan and Della like to act as if they have some sort of moral high ground over Barb and Willie but they are just as manipulative. Lost some respect for them. Poor Angelica always getting used up for others agendas and just when she was starting to trust again.

It would have sat better with me, the reader, if the scheme was revealed later after it unfolded. At the very least, the MC should have had some inner dialogue about suspicions because he's definitely not stupid enough to think that shiny ass ring had been exposed to the elements for years.

True... The MC didn't even say something along the lines of how incredible lucky they got to find this ring after all those years to Stan.
Also both of them aren't entirely happy with their lie. Yet, I doubt Barb has the same issue with her lies.

 

[A.M.R.]

All the ppl overreacting about the latest update ending, maybe replay the whole game and pay close attention.
All the shit the minions are doing, and suddenly Stan & Dee are just as evil or manipulative!!!

Turning strippers into prostitutes and keeping them on a leach with drugs, and some of those end up dead or murdered.
Helping the corrupt City Hall screw citizens out of their properties.

Angelica multiple times told others or her thoughts that her "mom" is a one evil bitch, also iIrc Bob while screwing Barb was thinking to himself if Willie found out what Barb have done he would end her
Overall it was implied that Barb did indeed get her own daughter killed
Stan stated in that last scene the why, he is running out of time and he is confident both Angelica and MC will understand and will be ok with Stan decision

I honestly would be really chocked if Dima decided to make Angelica take it BAD in the aftermath of this, she would be a broken mess beyond any help

 

[Dimitri57]

All the ppl overreacting about the latest update ending, maybe replay the whole game and pay close attention.
All the shit the minions are doing, and suddenly Stan & Dee are just as evil or manipulative!!!

Turning strippers into prostitutes and keeping them on a leach with drugs, and some of those end up dead or murdered.
Helping the corrupt City Hall screw citizens out of their properties.

Angelica multiple times told others or her thoughts that her "mom" is a one evil bitch, also iIrc Bob while screwing Barb was thinking to himself if Willie found out what Barb have done he would end her
Overall it was implied that Barb did indeed get her own daughter killed
Stan stated in that last scene the why, he is running out of time and he is confident both Angelica and MC will understand and will be ok with Stan decision

I honestly would be really chocked if Dima decided to make Angelica take it BAD in the aftermath of this, she would be a broken mess beyond any help

Yes, and I remember everyone was ready to kick Reba/Angelica to the curb after the party in Episode 9, now she is the best girl to many.

The truth will be revealed and everyone can make their own decision about Stan and Della's motives and tactics...

 

[PapaPhat]

Yes, and I remember everyone was ready to kick Reba/Angelica to the curb after the party in Episode 9, now she is the best girl to many.

The truth will be revealed and everyone can make their own decision about Stan and Della's motives and tactics...

Sooner you figure out that Dima is just fucking with our heads, the sooner you can enjoy the story...

 

[AWillowAtDawn]

Thanks Alot guys .
Ty mootseer for including papa
Thanks alot papa for comeing to da Recuse , sadly i dm dimitri XD
Damm dat dammed song got stuck in my head.

 

[Wolfeszorn]

Yes, and I remember everyone was ready to kick Reba/Angelica to the curb after the party in Episode 9, now she is the best girl to many.

The truth will be revealed and everyone can make their own decision about Stan and Della's motives and tactics...

Well, to be fair, there is a difference between Reba and Angelica imho. The Reba persona with the Valleygirl attitude was just annoying af. Angelica on the other hand.... well, i´m willing to give her a chance. doesn´t change the fact though that Stan and Della kind of betrayed her trust just to get what they want.

It´s gonna be interesting regardless

 

[HornyyPussy]

All the ppl overreacting about the latest update ending, maybe replay the whole game and pay close attention.
All the shit the minions are doing, and suddenly Stan & Dee are just as evil or manipulative!!!

Turning strippers into prostitutes and keeping them on a leach with drugs, and some of those end up dead or murdered.
Helping the corrupt City Hall screw citizens out of their properties.

Angelica multiple times told others or her thoughts that her "mom" is a one evil bitch, also iIrc Bob while screwing Barb was thinking to himself if Willie found out what Barb have done he would end her
Overall it was implied that Barb did indeed get her own daughter killed
Stan stated in that last scene the why, he is running out of time and he is confident both Angelica and MC will understand and will be ok with Stan decision

I honestly would be really chocked if Dima decided to make Angelica take it BAD in the aftermath of this, she would be a broken mess beyond any help

Not even remotely the same thing, the Minions are the bad guys, Rogues the good guys, there IS a difference.........

That being said, I have no reason to doubt that Dima will make it alright in the end. Della and Angelica will both be in the Harem after all and there are NO drama in the Harem!

 

[Aioto]

Maybe it woudn't sting so bad if they didn't seem like they were celebrating the plan as much.

Also to the people that think the MC is oblivious:

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[comte bonfim]

I think it was just shocking seeing the plot being layed out like that, from the story perspective it felt like Stan and Della had a real chance of getting Rebecca to their side without having to plot this whole ordeal, but then it's shown to us, Stan is still a ruthless outlaw biker. It made me feel uneasy because the whole playthrough had been layed out as a friendly environment within Stan's house and seeing them being so welcoming and warm to the MC out of respect to his personality/character, kinda gave us that protection feeling, and at the end of the episode, when you see them plotting, feels like you were caught with your pants down, that's why it shocked so many, including me...

Atleast it is if you're invested in the Buddy/Sissy story and how it impacted Rebecca to finally have some security in her life, it has been a journey seeing Reba opening up to the MC, it's a really nice way to get people involved in the MC's relationships and get stung back for trusting too much on everyone, the game is still about a 1%er lifestyle, plotting, killing and all kinds of illegal shit is still the primary lifestyle we'll have to partake in, even more so being a Prospect for the motorcycle club, so yeah, it's shocking but atleast I can understand it after going through the first impression and uneasy feeling I had, now I can sit back and take another look through the perspective of myself as a player and not as the MC in this case. Anyways, hopefully Dima will whip out his big dick writer energy and give us one hell of a ride with the next episodes and we'll all be in awe with the result, I won't jump to conclusions just because I got caught in my feelings. Let's get it on.

 

[comte bonfim]

And trust me, the Rogues MC are not the good guys in this story either, it's hard for people to grasp the 1%er lifestyle, but the exception it being is that, it feels like the Rogues are a more traditional motorcycle club and the Minions is a more cutthroat one (don't get me wrong, they're both very cutthroat and ruthless, but the Rogues don't do a lot of the shit the Minions do, because they don't want to attract the News attention, and the Minions got the City Halls protection, so they can be way more ruthless with their business), they both still deal with a lot of illegal shit, but some MCs have /some/ morals and others don't.

I'd say the Minions are actually pretty decent if it weren't for Barb's influence and Bobby's psychopath tendencies. Willie himself, Quack and (I belive is Thor from the strip club) didn't come off to me as being the same as cutthroat as Bobby with all the behind the back shit, they seemed more like just usual outlaw bikers to me.

 

[HornyyPussy]

And trust me, the Rogues MC are not the good guys in this story either, it's hard for people to grasp the 1%er lifestyle, but the exception it being is that, it feels like the Rogues are a more traditional motorcycle club and the Minions is a more cutthroat one (don't get me wrong, they're both very cutthroat and ruthless, but the Rogues don't do a lot of the shit the Minions do, because they don't want to attract the News attention, and the Minions got the City Halls protection, so they can be way more ruthless with their business), they both still deal with a lot of illegal shit, but some MCs have /some/ morals and others don't.

I'd say the Minions are actually pretty decent if it weren't for Barb's influence and Bobby's psychopath tendencies. Willie himself, Quack and (I belive is Thor from the strip club) didn't come off to me as being the same as cutthroat as Bobby with all the behind the back shit, they seemed more just usual outlaw bikers to me.

I disagree. The Rogues may do illegal things but for the sake of this story they are the good guys.

Quack was a deranged psychopath.

 

[Elduriel]

I disagree. The Rogues may do illegal things but for the sake of this story they are the good guys.

Quack was a deranged psychopath.

from the protagonist's point of view maybe, but if you look at it from the outside, they are still outlaw bike club that do illegal shit, it is what it is, we don't need to sugarcoat it, we can still enjoy the story regardless

 

[Tulrek]

And trust me, the Rogues MC are not the good guys in this story either, it's hard for people to grasp the 1%er lifestyle, but the exception it being is that, it feels like the Rogues are a more traditional motorcycle club and the Minions is a more cutthroat one (don't get me wrong, they're both very cutthroat and ruthless, but the Rogues don't do a lot of the shit the Minions do, because they don't want to attract the News attention, and the Minions got the City Halls protection, so they can be way more ruthless with their business), they both still deal with a lot of illegal shit, but some MCs have /some/ morals and others don't.

I'd say the Minions are actually pretty decent if it weren't for Barb's influence and Bobby's psychopath tendencies. Willie himself, Quack and (I belive is Thor from the strip club) didn't come off to me as being the same as cutthroat as Bobby with all the behind the back shit, they seemed more like just usual outlaw bikers to me.

I do agree except for Quack.
He is a killer and a psycho.

 

[HornyyPussy]

from the protagonist's point of view maybe, but if you look at it from the outside, they are still outlaw bike club that do illegal shit, it is what it is, we don't need to sugarcoat it, we can still enjoy the story regardless

Well, I'm playing as the MC so........

But as I said, they do illegal stuff but they still have a code of conduct. I seriously doubt they would be ok with harming innocent people for example.

 

[Cedroc1701]

It was a good twist.cliffhanger... BUT

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And their code of conduct includes lying and manipulating people on THEIR side, so its not an impressive argument.

 

[comte bonfim]

I do agree except for Quack.
He is a killer and a psycho.

Uhhh... so is our character? So is Sluggo and Stan, again, we've only seen the surface of these people. We killed Chris without a doubt (if you picked the choice) and he was being used by James, it's not the same as killing a member of a rival club and then trying to blackmail and get his Ol'lady as a trophy but still. You also piss on a dead rival member's corpse with two other guys for the sake of earning their respect and for the sake of it, if that ain't cold-blooded and psychotic enough, then we have two different views on what would be.

I'm not saying the Minions are misunderstood, I'm saying the Rogues aren't as the good guys as y'all are thinking they are. Quack was a killer, but he was an outlaw biker, just like Sluggo, Stan and every other biker in the game, the only difference is Quack had been influenced by Barb's view of the Rogues and was probably doing her bidding when he killed Big Ed and was blackmailing Kat.

Look back at the story again, the only good deeds the Rogues ever did was protect their own, someone was blackmailing a deceased member's Ol'lady?, ok, let's deal with it. Someone was robbing our establishment under our noses? Okay, let's deal with them, and that's how it should be. They are the good guys in our MC's perspective, as they're like a close-knit squad and he can relate to that because of his military background, that doesn't make them good guys or good-hearted citizens. And don't forget, they're using a girl who has been abused her entire life to ambush and kill her mother in a revenge to something they can't even prove happened, it's all a means to a end.

 

[Elduriel]

Uhhh... so is our character? So is Sluggo and Stan, again, we've only seen the surface of these people. We killed Chris without a doubt (if you picked the choice) and he was being used by James, it's not the same as killing a member of a rival club and then trying to blackmail and get his Ol'lady as a trophy but still. You also piss on a dead rival member's corpse with two other guys for the sake of earning their respect and for the sake of it, if that ain't cold-blooded and psychotic enough, then we have two different views on what would be.

I'm not saying the Minions are misunderstood, I'm saying the Rogues aren't as the good guys as y'all are thinking they are. Quack was a killer, but he was an outlaw biker, just like Sluggo, Stan and every other biker in the game, the only difference is Quack had been influenced by Barb's view of the Rogues and was probably doing her bidding when he killed Big Ed and was blackmailing Kat.

Look back at the story again, the only good deeds the Rogues ever did was protect their own, someone was blackmailing a deceased member's Ol'lady?, ok, let's deal with it. Someone was robbing our establishment under our noses? Okay, let's deal with them, and that's how it should be. They are the good guys in our MC's perspective, as they're like a close-knit squad and he can relate to that because of his military background, that doesn't make them good guys or good-hearted citizens. And don't forget, they're using a girl who has been abused her entire life to ambush and kill her mother in a revenge to something they can't even prove happened, it's all a means to a end.

yep, hard to call them good guys when you execute someone for stealing from you... they certainly have more moral code than the Minions, but they are far from "good guys". But then again, it's part of culture and the story, I personally don't have a problem with it otherwise I wouldn't play the game.

 

[comte bonfim]

Same, for me it adds more flavour to the story, don't get me wrong I love the lifestyle and culture as much as I love bikes, so this game is right up my alley and I love where the story is going, and I rather play as a bad guy/outlaw than a do-goody-guy, the motorcycle club culture, the bikes, prospecting is just the icing on the cake for me as I love that whole underworld, this game has become one of my favorites so fast that I even broke my promise and subbed to Dima's patreon, and I never used that garbage website.

But yeah, those were just my two-cents on my perspective of the story so far, part III will reveal much more and I'm eager to take a ride again with my Ol'ladies and finally facing off the Barb's Minions once and for all (hopefully part III doesn't drag the war too much).