VN Ren'Py Long Road Home [Ep.15] [OBDGames]

[Jack Nippleson]

It's a LOT to keep up with is all I'm saying and time to really move the story forward.

That's a you problem not pacing problem. I'm old and have been able to keep up with all the LI's just fine. Also, considering the content that Dima has put out versus the other AVN's that haven't been abandoned I'd say the story is moving along just fine. I doubt the ex will make an appearance. If you get a Dear John letter that means its over-over. Plus it seems like whatever you named your MC has ZERO desire to return to her as she would not agree with his new current life choices.

 

[Renfield42069]

Move the story forward to where? Are you suggesting I make a rushed finish to the story like what happens to other games when the dev gets bored, fed up with the incessant whining, or is tapped out on imagination?

Am I supposed to feel bad that I envisioned a large expansive story, filled with interesting characters, back stories and creating unique events that aren't found in any other AVNs?

I put a lot of thought, time and effort into this to produce something that isn't like everything else. I figure it will take up to three chapters to tell the complete story, so there's going to be a lot more to see, do and time to make it around with all the girls.

I've got to keep this all in order in my head and sequence the events along the way. All you have to do is read it. Sorry, not sorry that you can't keep up with it.

I admit I didn't give the player an opt out with Jessy and Tracy. (Probably some other as well) That will be corrected when I remaster Chapter One. Other than them, you've had the option to not open a path with a new girl. If there's too many girls in the game for your taste, that's on you bro.

I get your overarching compliant though. There is a big gap in time between scenes with the girls you like or want to be with.
I feel for you, but I can't reach you. The story drives the interactions or creates the opportunities with the main girls. It would be easy to have the MC go around and fuck everyone just for the sake of fucking them. I'm sure some say that's all that happens anyway.

You perceive the story is dragging because you're seeing the story bit by bit as it develops. Believe me, it would be a lot less headaches and stress on me to just to work on this at my own pace and not release it until I'm completely finished. Once the story is finished, there won't be the extended delays between scenes with the girl/girls you like.

The bottom line is, I'm doing this story for my own enjoyment and as a creative release. If you like it great. If it is stressing you out too much following it, there are plenty of simple, less complex games out there.







I'm really questioning if I made the right decision to start engaging on this thread again...

At the end of the day it's your story to tell and we're just observers. I'm sure even with a "finished product" there will always be critics, whether it be an AVN, a novel, a soap opera.

You just got back with the milk, don't go back to the corner store. You can't leave us alone with mom again; you know how she gets!

 

[divingmedic]

That's a you problem not pacing problem. I'm old and have been able to keep up with all the LI's just fine. Also, considering the content that Dima has put out versus the other AVN's that haven't been abandoned I'd say the story is moving along just fine. I doubt the ex will make an appearance. If you get a Dear John letter that means its over-over. Plus it seems like whatever you named your MC has ZERO desire to return to her as she would not agree with his new current life choices.

It's all Jody's fault.

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[HornyyPussy]

Move the story forward to where? Are you suggesting I make a rushed finish to the story like what happens to other games when the dev gets bored, fed up with the incessant whining, or is tapped out on imagination?

Am I supposed to feel bad that I envisioned a large expansive story, filled with interesting characters, back stories and creating unique events that aren't found in any other AVNs?

I put a lot of thought, time and effort into this to produce something that isn't like everything else. I figure it will take up to three chapters to tell the complete story, so there's going to be a lot more to see, do and time to make it around with all the girls.

I've got to keep this all in order in my head and sequence the events along the way. All you have to do is read it. Sorry, not sorry that you can't keep up with it.

I admit I didn't give the player an opt out with Jessy and Tracy. (Probably some other as well) That will be corrected when I remaster Chapter One. Other than them, you've had the option to not open a path with a new girl. If there's too many girls in the game for your taste, that's on you bro.

I get your overarching compliant though. There is a big gap in time between scenes with the girls you like or want to be with.
I feel for you, but I can't reach you. The story drives the interactions or creates the opportunities with the main girls. It would be easy to have the MC go around and fuck everyone just for the sake of fucking them. I'm sure some say that's all that happens anyway.

You perceive the story is dragging because you're seeing the story bit by bit as it develops. Believe me, it would be a lot less headaches and stress on me to just to work on this at my own pace and not release it until I'm completely finished. Once the story is finished, there won't be the extended delays between scenes with the girl/girls you like.

The bottom line is, I'm doing this story for my own enjoyment and as a creative release. If you like it great. If it is stressing you out too much following it, there are plenty of simple, less complex games out there.







I'm really questioning if I made the right decision to start engaging on this thread again...

PLEASE don't let people like that get you down Dima, we truly love having you here!

There will always be people with unreasonable complaints, just ignore them, you don't owe them any kind of answer, especially here on a PIRATE forum.

Focus on us loveable dingbats instead

 

[FatGiant]

I have one question:

What happened to the 3rd waiter? The one with a name starting with H, that the previous manager of the club tricked to give him a BJ?

She suddenly vanishes and no one mentions her again.

To be honest I was well into the Episode 10 when I remembered her...

Peace

 

[ShatteredEnigma616]

I realize I'm probably in the minority here; but just how many more girls does Ryker need? There's already so many that it's several updates between doing anything w/ them. We still haven't gotten to Oksana or Nora (or possibly cucking Stevarino w/ Sarah) or Sluggo's daughter yet. There's probably already planned stuff for Emily and Tori and Kira in the future. And this beta update, we now introduce a Korean sidekick (interesting one I'll grant you) for Rin. I wouldn't be too surprised if Ryker's ex-girlfriend from before prison suddenly made an appearance. It's a LOT to keep up with is all I'm saying and time to really move the story forward.

As somebody with severe ADHD, ADD and extremely short memory....I literally have no issue keeping up with this. This is one of if not the best VNs around. At least in my opinion and a few others opinions as well. The story is interesting and isn't some dime a dozen overdone idea. This story is wholly original. And Dima is one of, if not, my FAVORITE dev for that very reason. Each girl does get her time. It isn't rushed they don't have to be one after the other. So what if you have to wait a bit for one or the other of the girls. They each get their time and development. The story continues through. Also its his game he can add as many girls to the harem as he wants and I will play it til the end happily and not miss a beat. So honestly this (as others have said) sounds like a YOU issue. Not an issue with the VN.

 

[HornyyPussy]

I wouldn't mind some kind of character info page or something, just for references

 

[FatGiant]

I wouldn't mind some kind of character info page or something, just for references

I'm FatGiant and I approve this message.

Peace

 

[Dimitri57]

I have one question:

What happened to the 3rd waiter? The one with a name starting with H, that the previous manager of the club tricked to give him a BJ?

She suddenly vanishes and no one mentions her again.

To be honest I was well into the Episode 10 when I remembered her...

Peace

That was Heidi. She was never meant to be around long. My intent was that she was coerced away by Bad Bob same as Simone, but I never stated as much. I never showed her to be at one of Bob's clubs later as I did with Simone. She's on the long list of loose ends I need to tidy up at some point...

 

[FatGiant]

That was Heidi. She was never meant to be around long. My intent was that she was coerced away by Bad Bob same as Simone, but I never stated as much. I never showed her to be at one of Bob's clubs later as I did with Simone. She's on the long list of loose ends I need to tidy up at some point...

Thanks. I was playing along and suddenly I remembered her, and it wouldn't go away... Poor girl, she may not have been smart, but no one deserves that end. Except James...and... and... and... well... you get the picture.

Peace

 

[c3p0]

She's on the long list of loose ends I need to tidy up at some point...

I wouldn't mind that.
Was also like FatGiant and do miss her a bit.

 

[ohhiimfox]

I wouldn't mind some kind of character info page or something, just for references

me too BUT dont put more work an Dima's shoulder

 

[c3p0]

me too BUT dont put more work an Dima's shoulder

Guys, you have a character PDF, so their is at least that.

 

[HornyyPussy]

me too BUT dont put more work an Dima's shoulder

Fair enough, I'll wait until it's finished

Guys, you have a character PDF, so their is at least that.

And it's a great help, thanks 3PO!

 

[Deckard81]

I admit I didn't give the player an opt out with Jessy and Tracy. (Probably some other as well) That will be corrected when I remaster Chapter One. Other than them, you've had the option to not open a path with a new girl. If there's too many girls in the game for your taste, that's on you bro.

I'm really questioning if I made the right decision to start engaging on this thread again...

First off, I adore your game and can't wait for the rest of it, I only picked it up recently but couldn't put it down till I hit the "save here" so much content and such good content, you deserve every patron and sub you get.

Now, about the remaster. While I think the start of the game up to leaving the first town is by far the weakest part of the entire game and I wasn't a fan of the good guy/bad guy dichotomy, I'm assuming you were new to developing games at the time and you were learning as you went so I understand wanting to go back and make it feel more connected to the rest of the game. I'm just concerned that as it happens with so many games, remastering early chapters slows down the production and continuation of the main story. I don't know if it's just you or you have a team behind you now but wouldn't it be better to finish the story and then worry about remastering older content?

Either way I hope you continue to engage on these forums, a lot of people leave very constructive feedback here, sadly you sometimes have to wade through the bullshit to get to it.

 

[Krytax123]

Yeez there is a lot of cringe fanboyism here, the users post wasnt even isulting or critisicing this much about the avn, it was more like a matter of stateing his opinion.

Imo he's right about the point that its slowly becoming too many girls, and he probably doesnt lack the mental capacity to "keep up" with it, i love this avn but its not like its a super deep philosophical story, what are you guys even talking about.

Imo (!!!) to many LI's break a the immersion/believeability of a story. Like come on, if it becomes 10+ serious relationships, how does anyone even manage his time and our mc in particular has a lot of other shit to manage as well.

Its always about the balance, every new LI will reduce the time of relationship development of other LI's so i guess everyone has some kind of arbitrary number where he/she thinks its simply too much. I think its maybe 10 (preferably less) while other may are fine with 30 or unlimited.

Its not a big deal but theres no reaon to display the user as an unreasonable troll lol

 

[PigeonPerson]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the update.

I don't know that I'd say,

763 still images
51 Animations/loops (4,000+ animation slides)
7,600+ lines of code and text is a mini-episode,

but I don't want to be accused of being insecure about size...

Lady Champagne? Yes, you'll have the option if you are on the corruption path with them. That will be an option during 3-ways with your bi girls and your other submissives as well. (Angel on Jessydom path, guests/clients/hostages, in Angelica's playroom.)

Haha, didn't mean to make you insecure The update was plenty big with lot's of interesting content Should probably used the word "sub-chapter" instead. Thanks again, eagerly awaiting future updates!

Sounds amazing, can't wait to see what you've planned! Hopefully there is enough lady champagne for all the thirsty ladies, served up in the nicest champagne glasses. On second thought, maybe there is no need to dirty the glasses when you can drink straight from the tap Just to make sure I didn't miss any content, there aren't any such scenes in the game yet, right?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Yeez there is a lot of cringe fanboyism here, the users post wasnt even isulting or critisicing this much about the avn, it was more like a matter of stateing his opinion.

Imo he's right about the point that its slowly becoming too many girls, and he probably doesnt lack the mental capacity to "keep up" with it, i love this avn but its not like its a super deep philosophical story, what are you guys even talking about.

Imo (!!!) to many LI's break a the immersion/believeability of a story. Like come on, if it becomes 10+ serious relationships, how does anyone even manage his time and our mc in particular has a lot of other shit to manage as well.

Its always about the balance, every new LI will reduce the time of relationship development of other LI's so i guess everyone has some kind of arbitrary number where he/she thinks its simply too much. I think its maybe 10 (preferably less) while other may are fine with 30 or unlimited.

Its not a big deal but theres no reaon to display the user as an unreasonable troll lol

While no AVN can really be compared to Shakespeare or Dostoevsky, this is one of the better ones story wise (in mine and many others opinion). And regarding the number of LI's, that, as much else is down to personal opinion. As others have said, I see no problem with the amount of LI's and besides, it's full on Harem game, kinda comes with the territory.....

 

[Krytax123]

While no AVN can really be compared to Shakespeare or Dostoevsky, this is one of the better ones story wise (in mine and many others opinion). And regarding the number of LI's, that, as much else is down to personal opinion. As others have said, I see no problem with the amount of LI's and besides, it's full on Harem game, kinda comes with the territory.....

I didnt meant to badmouth the avn when talking about the deepth, its not required or necessary as you said yourself, it was merely a reply towards the people mentioning that the poster wasnt able to keep up with the ("complex") story because of the many LI's ... the story is great imo too.

And yeah the the prefered number of LI's is simply a matter of personal taste as you said so i didnt understood why the guy got so much hate for stateing it lol

 

[e6mill]

While no AVN can really be compared to Shakespeare or Dostoevsky

Crime and Punishment could be a great & appropriate title for the right sort of AVN though!