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a bit of my personal experience regarding rockers and bikers: most bikers prefer old country music over rock. those that do prefer rock go for metal or ballads. as it was explained to me: when you're on a long ride, listening to heavy or adrenaline pumping music tends to make you go harder, turning a simple ride into a daredevil's nightmare. keeping a clear head is not just a preference but something required. those that ignore this don't tend to make it in an MC nor do they tend to live long. while I do ride myself, I was never part of a club since my work schedule is hectic at best, so this is second hand knowledge. I also grew up amongst rockers, from getting wasted with band members after shows (rockers and punkers -yes, this is an actual word- getting wasted at 2 AM with enough alcohol to drown a village...) to "handling" groupies in the 90's and early 2000's. what I'm trying to say is, based on personal experience, some rockers are bikers (actual members of a club) and some bikers are rockers (actually grew up not just listening to music but being part of that culture), one group does not include the other. while both emphasize freedom of action and choice, bikers tend to be veterans with discipline and structure drilled into them while most rockers tend to be shaped by trauma, good or bad. so, while they may look to be the same on the outside, bikers tend to be more of a properly structured family meant for ex-military, or those willing to adhere to such a lifestyle while rockers are usually self-destructive daredevils at worst or people with a traumatic past that find themselves in the music and find a modicum of freedom and self-control (or lack there of) in the culture. do take my words with a grain of salt as this is based on personal experience across 3 continents and about 20 countries over 2 decades. could be I had the "luck" of seeing only parts of both cultures (which would not surprise me in the least).
 

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:unsure: You mean to tell me after all this time there is actually a Topic on this thread o_O.
Why did no one tell me?.
there is but only after update, rest more or less off topic. if all off topics would be removed then thread would have way less posts.
 

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a bit of my personal experience regarding rockers and bikers: most bikers prefer old country music over rock. those that do prefer rock go for metal or ballads. as it was explained to me: when you're on a long ride, listening to heavy or adrenaline pumping music tends to make you go harder, turning a simple ride into a daredevil's nightmare. keeping a clear head is not just a preference but something required. those that ignore this don't tend to make it in an MC nor do they tend to live long. while I do ride myself, I was never part of a club since my work schedule is hectic at best, so this is second hand knowledge. I also grew up amongst rockers, from getting wasted with band members after shows (rockers and punkers -yes, this is an actual word- getting wasted at 2 AM with enough alcohol to drown a village...) to "handling" groupies in the 90's and early 2000's. what I'm trying to say is, based on personal experience, some rockers are bikers (actual members of a club) and some bikers are rockers (actually grew up not just listening to music but being part of that culture), one group does not include the other. while both emphasize freedom of action and choice, bikers tend to be veterans with discipline and structure drilled into them while most rockers tend to be shaped by trauma, good or bad. so, while they may look to be the same on the outside, bikers tend to be more of a properly structured family meant for ex-military, or those willing to adhere to such a lifestyle while rockers are usually self-destructive daredevils at worst or people with a traumatic past that find themselves in the music and find a modicum of freedom and self-control (or lack there of) in the culture. do take my words with a grain of salt as this is based on personal experience across 3 continents and about 20 countries over 2 decades. could be I had the "luck" of seeing only parts of both cultures (which would not surprise me in the least).
Well, yeah. Otherwise Rockers would be Bikers and vice versa (and in some cases they likely are). But they have a lot of similarities, too. For instance, they both tend to be rebels, especially when it comes to social norms. Both tend to be way more accepting of non-traditional relationships, and both tend to be a lot less judgemental and hypocritical than the average citizen. Anyway, mostly just thinkin' out loud and wastin' some time, but thanks for the input. (y)
 
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Well, yeah. Otherwise Rockers would be Bikers and vice versa (and in some cases they likely are). But they have a lot of similarities, too. For instance, they both tend to be rebels, especially when it comes to social norms. Both tend to be way more accepting of non-traditional relationships, and both tend to be a lot less judgemental and hypocritical than the average citizen. Anyway, mostly just thinkin' out loud and wastin' some time, but thanks for the input. (y)
I'm guessing you mean American Rockers then because in the 60s the britsih ones were not so none judgemental and hypocritical Just ask any aging Mod.
Not that they were anybetter.
As my friend used to say to his old Rocker dad "Mods did ride bikes dad you just rode bigger ones.
P.S. anyone thats never heard of 60's Britten Mod v Rocker battles wont have a clue what I mean.
So for the none english here Rockers rode BSA, Triumph, Nortons exct. and mods Rode whats known as scooters mainly Lambrettas and Vespas.
and not Untitled.jpeg which is also called a scooter.
 
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I'm guessing you mean American Rockers then because in the 60s the britsih ones were not so none judgemental and hypocritical Just ask any aging Mod.
Not that they were anybetter.
As my friend used to say to his old Rocker dad "Mods did ride bikes dad you just rode bigger ones.
P.S. anyone thats never heard of 60's Britten Mod v Rocker battles wont have a clue what I mean.
So for the none english here Rockers rode BSA, Triumph, Nortons exct. and mods Rode whats known as scooters mainly Lambrettas and Vespas.
and not View attachment 5642151 which is also called a scooter.
we just call scooters "underbone" to avoid confusion..
 

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Ok Rogues, it just dawned on me that Ryker has the ULTIMATE brag trophy when the club gets bigger(beyond the next 4).
Keep his Prospect vest and just put his full patch on it. That damned bullet hole is worth a ton of beers from the hang arounds.
 
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Hello everyone, I just finished the latest update and WOW, I never expected it to end like that, absolutely amazing, I did search through the 15 pages but I couldn't find my answer, who the heck are the main LI'S???? The MC meets so many different women that I can't keep track? For instance, the mayor's daughter, Desire (I think that's her name) she is sexy as all hell, and when the MC went to visit Rai ay her office, the secretary that spoke Russian or Ukrainian is sexy as fu*k, and then the girl from the burger shop that gave the MC a BJ that is a surfer, and Nora's maid/interior designer, and Stan's and Della's attorney, ( I'm sorry I'm horrible at remembering their names, the reason that I'm confused is because every woman that the MC meets in the game the way that the dialogue is written it makes you assume that they will be with the MC eventually, any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you
Desiree(Desi) Depesto, Receptionist at Rai's office is Katarina(Katya), Burger Anya, Designer is Gabriel(Gabby) Lawyer Hazel(Hazy).
Desi is a slow burn to rope in, Katya has been targeted but no action(yet), Anya is hooked, Gabby is going to get "helicoptered" at the bachelorette party, Hazy is a big unknown to me but damned right I want to add her to the Family.
 
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