VN Ren'Py Long Road Home [Ep.16] [OBDGames]

[PapaPhat]

I'm just back from the "Redneck Riviera". (Panama City Beach, FL) The Ol'lady, her younger sister and I took the 5 youngest grandkids to the beach for a week. We are sending them all back to their parents tomorrow. (Yay!)

Now that family obligations are met, I can get back to the salt mine and get an update completed!

I will get a decent size update out this month. The deal is that it won't be everything I need wrapped up for Chapter 1 so that means episode 10 will be in three parts. Not ideal, but there are so many loose ends that need to be addressed. I'd rather split it than do a half-assed job on important events in the story. It's either that or wait until I have everything I want complete. (I don't have a good handle on how long that would be.)

I'm adventuring on!

Three parts is fine, brother. Do four or five if you must. Just don't leave out any of the good stuff I know you have in store for us! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

Good to hear that you and the family are well, my friend. Adventure ever on, Phat

 

[HiHaHo]

It's far from over my friend. I have two note pads of main story events to work through and another one for side events. The thing is, while I'm working the main story line, ideas for new events pop in my head. I think I have easily enough for three chapters before MC attains his ultimate position.

ok so don't bite the dust before we get it all please

 

[EfontMan]

ok so don't bite the dust before we get it all please

Need to put that stuff in a Gitub repo or Google Doc with a deadman trigger to publish it.

 

[HiHaHo]

Need to put that stuff in a Gitub repo or Google Doc with a deadman trigger to publish it.

i mean i could but it aint me whit the notepads

 

[BobbaBooeyGooey]

Wait, part 1? its not over? ahem well now ima be sad when i get the "Thats all folks" screen

 

[BobbaBooeyGooey]

It's far from over my friend. I have two note pads of main story events to work through and another one for side events. The thing is, while I'm working the main story line, ideas for new events pop in my head. I think I have easily enough for three chapters before MC attains his ultimate position.

Heres to you making sure to take long enough breaks and rest and hydrate properly.

We love this game but its not worth your health so if youre ever stressing about timelines/deadlines then take a break, we can wait a bit longer.

 

[Dimitri57]

Wait, part 1? its not over? ahem well now ima be sad when i get the "Thats all folks" screen

The size the game is getting too large. When chapter one is complete, chapter two will carry over the same characters into the next phase of MC's progression within the Rogues.

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[Son of Durin]

The size the game is getting too large. When chapter one is complete, chapter two will carry over the same characters into the next phase of MC's progression within the Rogues.

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How will the bridging occur? Will Chapter 1 saves be able to be opened in "Chapter 2", will a set of inputs need to be made by the player, or will there be a "bridging file" the way it was done in Sunshine Love?

That second option is really difficult to do if you've gone multiple routes and have to spend an hour setting up variables from each old route into the next chapter, since it is, effectively, a separate VN if handled that way.

 

[Dimitri57]

How will the bridging occur? Will Chapter 1 saves be able to be opened in "Chapter 2", will a set of inputs need to be made by the player, or will there be a "bridging file" the way it was done in Sunshine Love?

That second option is really difficult to do if you've gone multiple routes and have to spend an hour setting up variables from each old route into the next chapter, since it is, effectively, a separate VN if handled that way.

I haven't decided. I've seen it handled a couple ways in other AVN's. I'll opt for the cleanest, least PITA for me and for the player.

 

[PapaPhat]

I haven't decided. I've seen it handled a couple ways in other AVN's. I'll opt for the cleanest, least PITA for me and for the player.

Brother, Honestly, I have played many AVN titles in multiple parts now. Some require an end of act save file from the previous version/day/week/act/chapter/season/wtf ever they want to call it; others allow anyone to start in the new content with only a few questions up front. With as many different choices as we have to log into act one of LRH, (Early choices in the first chapter like who we did or didn't fuck, JD's fate, Red choices vs Blue, Chloe path or not after the bar fight, Quack's fate, to kill or not to kill, Leelee/not Leelee, Angel/not Angel, decisions with Jay's ol'lady, how did we handle the baby conversation with Katy and a bunch more that are swimming around in my head like sharks right now...) if my opinion matters at all, my vote is to require the end of act save transfer like Ataegina and Tales from the Unending Void rather than play 20 questions before seeing the new content. Pretty sure that the questions route is the easiest to code as I understand it but requiring the act one save transfer to start act two ensures that all your players know the story and aren't just skimming or cheesing their way into act two without knowing chapter one.

Ultimately, it's always your game, your call, 100%, my friend. Just pitching in my two cents worth of thinking out loud.
Hahaha Adventure ever on, Phat
Rogues Forever, Forever Rogues

 

[c3p0]

I haven't decided. I've seen it handled a couple ways in other AVN's. I'll opt for the cleanest, least PITA for me and for the player.

From my own personal situation don't split, I can and would download the whole thing every update.

From the technical one the only difference between asking the player a bunch of questions and have a save transfer system (one way or another) is simple in the first one the player needs to know all his decision. I would have a trouble remembering everyone of them, if it is only "Have done Yor X?". I would need for some of them a little more explanation than that.

Also you're already doing update patch, so it isn't the same situation as if there wouldn't be one.

Of course this are just my two cents to this topic.

 

[Horny Toad]

Brother, Honestly, I have played many AVN titles in multiple parts now. Some require an end of act save file from the previous version/day/week/act/chapter/season/wtf ever they want to call it; others allow anyone to start in the new content with only a few questions up front. With as many different choices as we have to log into act one of LRH, (Early choices in the first chapter like who we did or didn't fuck, JD's fate, Red choices vs Blue, Chloe path or not after the bar fight, Quack's fate, to kill or not to kill, Leelee/not Leelee, Angel/not Angel, decisions with Jay's ol'lady, how did we handle the baby conversation with Katy and a bunch more that are swimming around in my head like sharks right now...) if my opinion matters at all, my vote is to require the end of act save transfer like Ataegina and Tales from the Unending Void rather than play 20 questions before seeing the new content. Pretty sure that the questions route is the easiest to code as I understand it but requiring the act one save transfer to start act two ensures that all your players know the story and aren't just skimming or cheesing their way into act two without knowing chapter one.

Ultimately, it's always your game, your call, 100%, my friend. Just pitching in my two cents worth of thinking out loud.
Hahaha Adventure ever on, Phat
Rogues Forever, Forever Rogues
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The problem with the 20 questions (or whatever) is my memory is swiss cheese and I might have forgotten what some of the choices I made. If it isn't if I had sex with this woman, then I wouldn't be sure.

I'm fine with whatever the decision is, but I've had no problem loading saves from what chapter/part to another.

 

[Canto Forte]

Everybody loves MC ... this is the only way. Start it with everyone in the game.
If anyone wants to ask questions, have players check who THEY LEFT BEHIND.
In a game where
MC is a war vet who is known to butt heads to NOT LEAVE ANYONE BEHIND,
we can WEED OUT THE TRAITORS IN THIS THREAD.

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[Elduriel]

From my own personal situation don't split, I can and would download the whole thing every update.

From the technical one the only difference between asking the player a bunch of questions and have a save transfer system (one way or another) is simple in the first one the player needs to know all his decision. I would have a trouble remembering everyone of them, if it is only "Have done Yor X?". I would need for some of them a little more explanation than that.

Also you're already doing update patch, so it isn't the same situation as if there wouldn't be one.

Of course this are just my two cents to this topic.

same with me, size doesn't matter to me, however unfortunately there are people where it is a factor, so I can understand making a separate chapter after the game reaches a certain size

 

[EfontMan]

there are people where it is a factor

Presumably Android is an example, not that I play on a phone myself. But even on PC I'm not a fan of needlessly bloated file sizes. Not all of us live in the land of internet milk and honey.

 

[Dimitri57]

Presumably Android is an example, not that I play on a phone myself. But even on PC I'm not a fan of needlessly bloated file sizes. Not all of us live in the land of internet milk and honey.

Exactly. Android has been an issue since episode 8. I've tried slimmed down versions for Android, but it is a hassle and I'm shooting in the dark since I don't have an Android device to test it on.

 

[Dimitri57]

The problem with the 20 questions (or whatever) is my memory is swiss cheese and I might have forgotten what some of the choices I made. If it isn't if I had sex with this woman, then I wouldn't be sure.

I'm fine with whatever the decision is, but I've had no problem loading saves from what chapter/part to another.

I envision it would mostly be around which girls you want in your harem, and which kinks you want to see or not see. Most other decisions will be moot by the conclusion of Chapter one. I can make a "Fuck them all" choice to speed up the process.

I will recode the early episodes when I remaster Chapter one so it would likely bork everyone's saves. I've thought about handling the next chapter via saves. I could make different save games that the player could choose to start chapter two.

 

[cxx]

I haven't decided. I've seen it handled a couple ways in other AVN's. I'll opt for the cleanest, least PITA for me and for the player.

20 questions ala did you fuck a, b, c, etc and what did you do to j, k, l and so on.

 

[Canto Forte]

Nuff said ...

I can make a "Fuck them all" choice to speed up the process.

20 questions

 

[motseer]

My two cents. Save import; a' la LoM. Works like a charm. Start new game > option: "I have an existing save from Chapter 1." > click > save loads. Done!

Edit: Droid Productions are pretty cool. I'm betting they would share the code with you.