VN Ren'Py Long Road Home [Ep.16] [OBDGames]

[HiHaHo]

Ok I get that. you said something about training to be a 1% motorcycle club. but what type of training? so far I have seen how to build the bike and how to ride said bike. I don't think the mc needs any training to get more lady's I think he got a good amount of lady's already... and since bikers seem very badass what going on with this so called war... I have played just about every version you have as of now and so far the games very good ... will you be adding a combat system?

im 100% sure that there only will be AVN choice's that allow for story branches aside from have sex whit this girl yes/no and is scene will have a fetish is it your kink yes/no

like Dima said He's telling a story not making a video game
so anything that would considered a game mechanic stats/combat will not implemented in anyway in this avn

 

[Death3248]

You must be trolling...

No I was asking a question about the training that was said... also if a biker war does break out if there was going be a combat system or if was going to be more like that scene in the bar where the mc kicks those two guys asses ...

 

[Skep-tiker]

No I was asking a question about the training that was said... also if a biker war does break out if there was going be a combat system or if was going to be more like that scene in the bar where the mc kicks those two guys asses ...

Dude, dev already said no to training grind. Why are you so fanatic about this? The whole plot is his training to be a biker atm

 

[c3p0]

I know, I regret that, after I hit the reply button, but...

Could you add a state, without any other purpose than utterly grind, which you could only increase every 5 min or you use 100 Dima points (each time) to avoid this cool down period. 100 Dima points can, obvious, brought for 5$.

I'm sure, at least one in this thread support Dima, if he add this utterly shit...

This whole post was brought to you by the sarcastic committee.

 

[Death3248]

Dude, dev already said no to training grind. Why are you so fanatic about this? The whole plot is his training to be a biker atm

ok I understand the plot for the training to be a biker that doesn't mean you couldn't do other training too... maybe use other training to get other lady's for the mc. since bikers fuck a lot new lady's needed... as to the why .. I just think training in any stat or skill is needed wither its guns or just every day things like fixing the things in the hotel like that one scene where the land lady has a leak and it takes most of the day to fix. or when the mc is working on the penthouse deck that shouldn't take a whole day ... I know some people don't like grinding for stats or skills. but what if it was like the scene where the red head takes you to the gym ... I mean the mc had already said he wanted to hit the gym why not add it as a type of training?

 

[c3p0]

ok I understand the plot for the training to be a biker that doesn't mean you couldn't do other training too... maybe use other training to get other lady's for the mc. since bikers fuck a lot new lady's needed... as to the why .. I just think training in any stat or skill is needed wither its guns or just every day things like fixing the things in the hotel like that one scene where the land lady has a leak and it takes most of the day to fix. or when the mc is working on the penthouse deck that shouldn't take a whole day ... I know some people don't like grinding for stats or skills. but what if it was like the scene where the red head takes you to the gym ... I mean the mc had already said he wanted to hit the gym why not add it as a type of training?

If we at that, can we add the funking morning routine too? I mean, it is absolutely mandatory to brush your tooth.

 

[Elduriel]

I know, I regret that, after I hit the reply button, but...

Coukd you add a state, without any other purpose than utterly grind, which you could only increase every 5 min or you use 100 Dima points (each time) to avoid this cool down period. 100 Dima points can, obvious, brought for 5$.

I'm sure, at least one in this thread support Dima, if he add this utterly shit...

This whole post was brought to you by the sarcastic committee.

microtransactions in AVNs, there is an idea

 

[The Grifter]

ok I understand the plot for the training to be a biker that doesn't mean you couldn't do other training too... maybe use other training to get other lady's for the mc. since bikers fuck a lot new lady's needed... as to the why .. I just think training in any stat or skill is needed wither its guns or just every day things like fixing the things in the hotel like that one scene where the land lady has a leak and it takes most of the day to fix. or when the mc is working on the penthouse deck that shouldn't take a whole day ... I know some people don't like grinding for stats or skills. but what if it was like the scene where the red head takes you to the gym ... I mean the mc had already said he wanted to hit the gym why not add it as a type of training?

Look...
The only GRINDING that happens in this game is people rubbing their fun parts against each other.
The only FREEROAMING occurs in scenes where the MC rides his bike outside of the city.
The only SANDBOX mechanism occurs in MC's flashbacks when he was deployed overseas.
This is not a game with RPG mechanics and player stats.
And for the love of all that is good and precious, no effing' microtransactions! Don't jinx it!

 

[Cartageno]

ok I understand the plot for the training to be a biker that doesn't mean you couldn't do other training too... maybe use other training to get other lady's for the mc. since bikers fuck a lot new lady's needed... as to the why .. I just think training in any stat or skill is needed wither its guns or just every day things like fixing the things in the hotel like that one scene where the land lady has a leak and it takes most of the day to fix. or when the mc is working on the penthouse deck that shouldn't take a whole day ... I know some people don't like grinding for stats or skills. but what if it was like the scene where the red head takes you to the gym ... I mean the mc had already said he wanted to hit the gym why not add it as a type of training?

As somebody who likes stats and sandbox and all that himself - if done well it can add a more rounded feeling of progression and accomplishment in my eyes - uhm, no. Plain "no". By which I mean to say "Nope, not a good idea".

LRH was started as an AVN roughly 4 years ago which means the whole story, the whole progression, everything that is done here was made on that basis. You cannot just slap a new mechanic onto this, even if we all agreed that 'boxes would be more enjoyable, because it would basically mean the whole thing needs to restart. I mean, many story scenes could stay as themselves, but it would require a complete rethink of when or how those will be reached. It is not only adding the filler stuff, it is placing it, making a workable storyline if stats aren't met, account for different stats being reached at different levels, or similar. Unless you do it all linearily (Want to do X - do Y times of Z training now), in which case however it would not change the character of the game and just add the dreaded "needless filler".

"Stats and training" may be a good idea for other games, and it might have been a good idea for this ages ago - that can at least be debatable - but that ship has sailed, reached India, came back with tea, has been repurposed for coast guard services and later as a ferry so long ago, it is even debatable it is the same ship anymore.

Adding a completely new mechanic or idea to this now is just like going to some random non-incest game and suddenly asking to add a sister (never previously mentioned) because sisters are hot, or suddenly add BDSM to a vanilla game - it would be completely out of context, deter all but a very few even of those who like that content in general because here, for once, it just doesn't make sense.

Think of all the stories we hear from video games, movies, etc. where some exec suddenly got the idea "now X is popular, we must insert it into our game Y", even if "X" is a cover shooter mechanic and "Y" a pinball game, making really bad games. This idea with stats is just that. Except that sandboxes aren't even that much of a box office hit to begin with.

Edit: couple of typos

 

[Skep-tiker]

even if we all agreed that 'boxes would be more enjoyable,

Which is far away from reality...

 

[thethirdeye]

is the Mac version working?

 

[Death3248]

As somebody who likes stats and sandbox and all that himself - if done well it can add a more rounded feeling of progression and accomplishment in my eyes - uhm, no. Plain "no". By which I mean to say "Nope, not a good idea".

LRH was started as an AVN roughly 4 years ago which means the whole story, the whole progression, everything that is done here was made on that basis. You cannot just slap a new mechanic onto this, even if we all agreed that 'boxes would be more enjoyable, because it would basically mean the whole things need to restart. I mean, many story scenes could stay as themselves, but it would require a complete rethink of when or how those will be reached. It is not only adding the filler stuff, it is placing it, making a workable storyline if stats aren't met, account for different stats being reached at different levels, or similar. Unless you do it all linearily (Want to do X - do Y times of Z training now), in which case however it would not change the character of the game and just add the dreaded "needless filler".

"Stats and training" may be a good idea for other games, and it might have been a good idea for this ages ago - that can at least be debatable - but that ship has sailed, reached india, came back with tea, has been repurposed for coast guard services and later as a ferry so long ago, it is even debatable it is the same ship anymore.

Adding a completely new mechanic or idea to this now is just like going to some random non-incest game and suddenly asking to add a sister (never previously mentioned) because sisters are hot, or suddenly add BDSM to a vanilla game - it would be completely out of context, deter all but a very few even of those who like that content in general because here, for once, it just doesn't make sense.

Think of all the stories we hear from video games, movies, etc. where some exec suddenly got the idea "now X is popular, we must insert it into our game Y", even if "X" is a cover shooter mechanic and "Y" a pinball game, making really bad games. This idea with stats is just that. Except that sandboxes aren't even that much of a box office hit to begin with.

Ok I understand this a bit better now but I was answering some of the past posts and I saw a odb post that mentioned training to be in or part of the 1% motorcycle club. I mean you play a mc that is spec op or merc that goes to jail because a mission went FUBAR. Uncle sam trained the mc to be a badass .So I thought I would ask about adding other stats or skills that could managed? so that when the bikers war starts the mc is a bit more ready for it....
I am like you I don't mind grind but it needs to look and feel just right... I think I have played games before that had something in it that to me didn't look or feel right..

 

[Wolfeszorn]

Ok I understand this a bit better now but I was answering some of the past posts and I saw a odb post that mentioned training to be in or part of the 1% motorcycle club. I mean you play a mc that is spec op or merc that goes to jail because a mission went FUBAR. Uncle sam trained the mc to be a badass .So I thought I would ask about adding other stats or skills that could managed? so that when the bikers war starts the mc is a bit more ready for it....
I am like you I don't mind grind but it needs to look and feel just right... I think I have played games before that had something in it that to me didn't look or feel right..

With all due respect, I usually respect the opinions of others, but going through all your posts just gave me a headache. So let me be the asshole that sums it all up for you

 

[tbarton1455]

Ok I understand this a bit better now but I was answering some of the past posts and I saw a odb post that mentioned training to be in or part of the 1% motorcycle club. I mean you play a mc that is spec op or merc that goes to jail because a mission went FUBAR. Uncle sam trained the mc to be a badass .So I thought I would ask about adding other stats or skills that could managed? so that when the bikers war starts the mc is a bit more ready for it....
I am like you I don't mind grind but it needs to look and feel just right... I think I have played games before that had something in it that to me didn't look or feel right..

If you want stats or skills that badly, just use that marvelous, and amazing thing that millennia of evolution has given you called a "brain." Then use that brain to conjure up yet another wonderful thing that humans tend to do called your "imagination."

AKA, use your imagination and as you play the game you are gaining stats and skills which you put into your imaginary stats and skill trees.

Because what you're mentioning isn't a "few hours" or "few days" of extra stuff that the dev has to do. You're talking at minimum months extra time, because he would have to add alternate scenarios, more rendering for those scenarios, the coding for adding unnecessary stat and skill trees, etc.

It's not gonna happen, man. It's a great AVN, even if it doesn't hit all your boxes perfectly (for me, it's a little too much girl/girl stuff, but I use that imagination of mine to mentally change the scene to where it's MC/girl). Just buck up and enjoy the ride.

 

[markel1000]

Ok I understand this a bit better now but I was answering some of the past posts and I saw a odb post that mentioned training to be in or part of the 1% motorcycle club. I mean you play a mc that is spec op or merc that goes to jail because a mission went FUBAR. Uncle sam trained the mc to be a badass .So I thought I would ask about adding other stats or skills that could managed? so that when the bikers war starts the mc is a bit more ready for it....
I am like you I don't mind grind but it needs to look and feel just right... I think I have played games before that had something in it that to me didn't look or feel right..
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A sandbox would kill this game theres no need for sandbox elements

 

[c3p0]

I would like to see a story part where Sluggo trains Ryker for the upcoming war between the Rogue and the Minions.
In reality it is a not very subtle reminder for Ryker what Sluggo can - and would do - if he fucks up with Liza.

 

[markel1000]

I would like to see a story part where Sluggo trains Ryker for the upcoming war between the Rogue and the Minions.
In reality it is a not very subtle reminder for the Ryker what Sluggo can - and would do - if he fucks up with Liza.

He should call him walter so he will go all out during training

 

[The Grifter]

I would like to see a story part where Sluggo trains Ryker for the upcoming war between the Rogue and the Minions.
In reality it is a not very subtle reminder for the Ryker what Sluggo can - and would do - if he fucks up with Liza.

I like that idea, however given Ryker's military background and how he already demonstrated his combat skills on his first visit to the Fox Box I can't see how there's much for Sluggo to teach him. Aside treading carefully with his daughter, of course.

 

[c3p0]

I like that idea, however given Ryker's military background and how he already demonstrated his combat skills on his first visit to the Fox Box I can't see how there's much for Sluggo to teach him. Aside treading carefully with his daughter, of course.

Knife work. Sluggo is highly skilled with - and is, if course, just a ruse, for "Don't you ever fuck up with my daughter".
Also as a prospect, he don't really have an option to say no to the club enforcer?

 

[Elduriel]

I like that idea, however given Ryker's military background and how he already demonstrated his combat skills on his first visit to the Fox Box I can't see how there's much for Sluggo to teach him. Aside treading carefully with his daughter, of course.

well he is pretty good with a knife, so maybe that?