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I don't see that it is being over done myself. Episode 9 had 9 H events. Other than some random kisses at the party, the only one that had bisexual scenes. That was Jessy and Rai after MC fucked Rai the morning after the party.

Episode 10 part 1 also had 9 H scenes. The (skippable) Jessy-Nikki was the only GG scene.

The next story I write will have the perfect harem. They will all be straight, directly related to you and virgin. (including your mother) (y)
OK. I have done this a few times elsewhere - just never thought there would be a need for it here. Your just getting such a big following now, Dimitri - lots of varied tastes and ummm... understandings. So, maybe not anyone's idea of a "perfect" harem but, definitely, what a "real" harem is... No! Wait! The word is actually "harim" and it doesn't even mean what ya'll think it does. A "harim" is a room (or rooms), a place in a house, mansion,whatever. That's all it is. But, it is a room with a particular purpose. It is the quarters for all the "harimi". Harimi are the household's wives, concubines and servants. Some are even male - well, used to be male. So, technically, some harimi can be castrated males or eunuchs. Traditionally, the harimi are never allowed to leave the harim unescorted so, they tend to be a little cooped up. I'll cut this short and just finish by saying - of course there is NEVER any touching of any kind, sexual or otherwise, among the harimi. Absolutely, none. Of course not. Never.
 
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OK. I have done this a few times elsewhere - just never thought there would be a need for it here. Your just getting such a big following now, Dimitri - lots of varied tastes and ummm... understandings. So, maybe not anyone's idea of a "perfect" harem but, definitely, what a "real" harem is... No! Wait! The word is actually "harim" and it doesn't even mean what ya'll think it does. A "harim" is a room (or rooms), a place in a house, mansion,whatever. That's all it is. But, it is a room with a particular purpose. It is the quarters for all the "harimi". Harimi are the household's wives, concubines and servants. Some are even male - well, used to be male. So, technically, some harimi can be castrated males or eunuchs. Traditionally, the harimi are never allowed to leave the harim unescorted so, they tend to be a little cooped up. I'll cut this short and just finish by saying - of course there is NEVER any touching of any kind, sexual or otherwise, among the harimi. Absolutely, none. Of course not. Never.
Yes, but the Harem tag is currently diluted to a tool where the MC has the means to fuck all LI without any kind of consequences
And rarely with any kind of logic of how this relationship would work or any kind of affection between the other members.

In my opinion having throuples even being straight but emotionally involved girls are comfortable in the same bed and talking turns.

we have to accept... HOW the author can write a MC that makes sense in the current times to have more than five girls at the same time all in common agreement? absurd and clearly it gets a little silly. The only way to mitigate this is making them more or less all bisexual and for some reason the only Male in the equation is MC.

I am a fan of throupes cause a man has two arms, so is only natural, as god intended.
 

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Yes, but the Harem tag is currently diluted to a tool where the MC has the means to fuck all LI without any kind of consequences
And rarely with any kind of logic of how this relationship would work or any kind of affection between the other members.

In my opinion having throuples even being straight but emotionally involved girls are comfortable in the same bed and talking turns.

we have to accept... HOW the author can write a MC that makes sense in the current times to have more than five girls at the same time all in common agreement? absurd and clearly it gets a little silly. The only way to mitigate this is making them more or less all bisexual and for some reason the only Male in the equation is MC.

I am a fan of throupes cause a man has two arms, so is only natural, as god intended.
Not gonna disagree. That's certainly one way to do it. I was simply pointing out that the label "harem" is a misnomer to start with. On that, I think we probably agree. But why call it anything? I get that the tags are there for a purpose. But none of them are ever 100% descriptive. In the case of the "harem" tag - it can actually be misleading. So, I try to disarm the label by pointing to its inaccuracy. Might as well call this "multouple". It's a made up word but definitely more accurate just from the sound of it. Anyway... enough talk. Gotta go fuck 'em all.
 

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Not gonna disagree. That's certainly one way to do it. I was simply pointing out that the label "harem" is a misnomer to start with. On that, I think we probably agree. But why call it anything? I get that the tags are there for a purpose. But none of them are ever 100% descriptive. In the case of the "harem" tag - it can actually be misleading. So, I try to disarm the label by pointing to its inaccuracy. Might as well call this "multouple". It's a made up word but definitely more accurate just from the sound of it. Anyway... enough talk. Gotta go fuck 'em all.
We have several tags that are useless in filtering games here, for example Pregnancy, which in the tag is simply someone who is pregnant. and the absolute majority of players want the impregnate/breeding tag,
And possibly it could be a continuation of an early pregnancy showing a little bump.


Yes it gets a little out of focus, as you are right about the HAREM tag which is used in a simple way the word was prostituted in its concept in games. But we have to understand some players do hate the concept of girlxgirl action.

I do not feel threatened/uncomfortable
in lesbian actions between the Lis whether MC is present or not. (as long as it makes sense for the story) but some people do and we should have a way to respect that. Some games you have a prompt/ Li asks if is okay to bang another girl.
 
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I don't see that it is being over done myself. Episode 9 had 9 H events. Other than some random kisses at the party, the only one that had bisexual scenes. That was Jessy and Rai after MC fucked Rai the morning after the party.

Episode 10 part 1 also had 9 H scenes. The (skippable) Jessy-Nikki was the only GG scene.

The next story I write will have the perfect harem. They will all be straight, directly related to you and virgin. (including your mother) (y)
WOW and will the mother be called Mary no wait it's been done before
 

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Not gonna disagree. That's certainly one way to do it. I was simply pointing out that the label "harem" is a misnomer to start with. On that, I think we probably agree. But why call it anything? I get that the tags are there for a purpose. But none of them are ever 100% descriptive. In the case of the "harem" tag - it can actually be misleading. So, I try to disarm the label by pointing to its inaccuracy. Might as well call this "multouple". It's a made up word but definitely more accurate just from the sound of it. Anyway... enough talk. Gotta go fuck 'em all.
I have a multitude of female followers in my Skyrim SE. I am often accused of running a harem. While I do like the idea of having a harem, I always correct those who call my laudable, lovely and lethal ladies a harem. They are my tribe and I their chieftain. That is how I see my MC's girls in Long Road Home as well. They are my tribe and I am their chieftain. Some of the girls are also into other girls, some are just into me. They are all equally loved and welcome. The only discernable rule is that no other male presence is allowed. Everything else is either allowed or even encouraged.

I think Ted Nugent said it best... It's a :devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish:

I won't debate the definitions this site places on anything. I'm just here to enjoy all the free content! Party, y'all!!!:devilish:(y)

Adventure ever on my friends and fellow fiends, Phat:devilish:(y)

PS: A little somethin' somethin' from PapaPhat's Skyrim...
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Like this one. Dimitri is very meticulous about those choices.
I do now, but in all honesty, there are some gaps in the early episodes. There are events that I should give the player an opt out. It's the same with water sports or anal. (Not everyone's cup of tea so to speak :p )

I'm not about forcing anyone to do anything. I forget that not everyone came of age in the era of sex, drugs and rock and roll. Not much I haven't seen (or did) and not much phases me. I do get caught off guard when some folks get pissy about things seen or said in a frigging porn game. :ROFLMAO: Talk about first world problems... Oh well, c'est la vie! (y)
 

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Somewhere I missed the boat! Where in the heck is that thing! Harems, Harimi's, bi-curious, bisexual o_O. Will somebody point me in the direction of a porn game, where the MC bangs the shit out of the women and rides. Yea on top of that I get to shoot assholes. :D

Now I have to find women with voyeuristic streaks. Son of a bitch, next thing I know I'll need to be a mathematician to take a dump.

I have a headache! ;)
 

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I have a multitude of female followers in my Skyrim SE. I am often accused of running a harem. While I do like the idea of having a harem, I always correct those who call my laudable, lovely and lethal ladies a harem. They are my tribe and I their chieftain. That is how I see my MC's girls in Long Road Home as well. They are my tribe and I am their chieftain. Some of the girls are also into other girls, some are just into me. They are all equally loved and welcome. The only discernable rule is that no other male presence is allowed. Everything else is either allowed or even encouraged.

I think Ted Nugent said it best... It's a :devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish:

I won't debate the definitions this site places on anything. I'm just here to enjoy all the free content! Party, y'all!!!:devilish:(y)

Adventure ever on my friends and fellow fiends, Phat:devilish:(y)

PS: A little somethin' somethin' from PapaPhat's Skyrim...
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I still miss Lydia... ;)
 

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I do now, but in all honesty, there are some gaps in the early episodes. There are events that I should give the player an opt out. It's the same with water sports or anal. (Not everyone's cup of tea so to speak :p )

I'm not about forcing anyone to do anything. I forget that not everyone came of age in the era of sex, drugs and rock and roll. Not much I haven't seen (or did) and not much phases me. I do get caught off guard when some folks get pissy about things seen or said in a frigging porn game. :ROFLMAO: Talk about first world problems... Oh well, c'est la vie! (y)
Very well spoken, sadly for my amusement the hottest scenes are when we have a bit of eroticism, just before fucking you have a slow take with for example Li doing a movement of spreading her legs some kind of preparation before simply going directly to the piston mode. Warm up in a bait and switch way

I could be a lost romantic in porn games who knows, or because I see so little in the details for example after finishing the sex...

you have should your Li finish with a blowjob/cleaningjob leaving everything clean and speaking of that implicitly because then you have the factor of her submission which is something magnificent, rarely applied.
Because we have so few actions/moments where Li makes visibly submissive actions to the MC. Is not sufficient just to bang the girl. the owning factor is hot as fuck
 

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I have said it before and I will say it again people have not liked me saying it before and probably won't like me saying it again.

Harem is it's own word it was derived from but not the exactly the same as Harim.
It was appropriated by westerners to decribe what they thought a Harim was.
So where a Harim do's only refer to: a separated room for The wives, concubines, female relatives, children and servants.
Harem now has mutiple definitions one is still: a separated room for The wives, concubines, female relatives, children and servants.

However it also can mean:A group of women who are sexual partners of the same man.
And it's also often defined as :A group of women who are sexual partners of the same man to the exclusion of all other males.
And it's these definition where problems start on the one hand some claim it can't be a Harem if there is Bi sexuality with the women.

However were do's it say to the Exclusion of other women? in either of them two definitions?.
Answere It dosen't and that doesn't go down well when you point that out.
It's not strictly necessary to have BI sex in a Harem but it doesn't disqualify it from being Harem if it has.
Technically this is the definition I think this site prescribes to more or less.

And extra confusion with filtering is also because some Dev's that are not OBD haven't been able to grasped the concept.
So they try to make a game that they claim contains both Harem and That three letter word... hopeing for a larger player base I guess.
And they really don't like being told these two Tags are mutually exclusive concepts .
So it is Tagged as both hence you filter for Harem and actually get a game that is anything but.

Oh there's also this definition:A group of female animals that breed exclusively with a single dominant male.
But thats a whole other headache.

Just sayin.
 
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OK, OK. We all get it. Harem originally meant something else and not everyone uses it that way nowadays. Can we please stop mutilating the dead horse on this thread now? If you want to keep chatting about that, you're always free to create a new thread in Off-Topic and then post to your heart's content there. Some of us (or at least, I) prefer to see stuff relevant to what's going on in this game, not quibbling over definitions and etymologies of words.
 

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OK, OK. We all get it. Harem originally meant something else and not everyone uses it that way nowadays. Can we please stop mutilating the dead horse on this thread now? If you want to keep chatting about that, you're always free to create a new thread in Off-Topic and then post to your heart's content there. Some of us (or at least, I) prefer to see stuff relevant to what's going on in this game, not quibbling over definitions and etymologies of words.
Damn now theirs another word I have to look up. Really! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Haha. Don't think what I said or quoted was going to get blown into such a shit show. I'm an old believer in the different strokes for different folks idea.

I really enjoy this AVN. One of my favorites I've played. I was just making a simple comment how in general, when people have a harem tag, they usually either force all the girls to be bisexual or a majority just so they can have the obligatory girl/girl stuff or for threesomes/orgies, when they don't need to be bisexual for that. And I wasn't complaining about the high (or small) amount of girl/girl H-scenes are in the AVN. I was just pointing out the high quantity of bisexual women that flocked to him, which is a typical thing in AVNs/erotic & harem literature. It's amusing that it's its own trope at this point lol.

But yeah, nothing against polyamory/open relationship stuff, but me personally, I'm more into the polygamy thing when it comes to the typical male power fantasy. I understand needing the couple of girls that are obviously bisexual for the girl/girl content, but I like seeing the interactions/activities plus the tension that can be added or relieved when a straight girl or two are in a threesome situation and having to navigate it while not being peer pressured to be intimate with each other, etc, and how that carries out into normal situations and not just intimate settings. Just my mind thinking about a lot of useless crap when it comes to this stuff rather than just enjoying it lol.

But I do love the option to skip content for people to see content they enjoy. I know you've done it before and always like that. I know a lot more developers are doing that but I still see a lot that don't unless it's the more fringe kinks. I'm one of those that, like the girl/girl stuff since it's been the current topic, some days I enjoy it more and want to see a lot, and other days I'd rather just skip it and not be bothered. If I don't like certain content in a AVN and a developer doesn't add a skip function, I don't really complain about it. I just speed click through it. Never a big chore about that. Most of the time, I'm playing the AVN for the story versus just for the sex anyway.

Oh, and I'm happy that we got one girl wanting to get preggers, especially since I love Katy. I know Dimitry mentioned just having one girl getting pregnant, but I really hope that the MC ends up getting a whole slew of girls preggo and basically having to open up his own nursery for all his little tykes. I love the girls and think they all deserve their own little clones running around.
 
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motseer

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I have said it before and I will say it again people have not liked me saying it before and probably won't like me saying it again.

Harem is it's own word it was derived from but not the exactly the same as Harim.
It was appropriated by westerners to decribe what they thought a Harim was.
So where a Harim do's only refer to: a separated room for The wives, concubines, female relatives, children and servants.
Harem now has mutiple definitions one is still: a separated room for The wives, concubines, female relatives, children and servants.

However it also can mean:A group of women who are sexual partners of the same man.
And it's also often defined as :A group of women who are sexual partners of the same man to the exclusion of all other males.
And it's these definition where problems start on the one hand some claim it can't be a Harem if there is Bi sexuality with the women.

However were do's it say to the Exclusion of other women? in either of them two definitions?.
Answere It dosen't and that doesn't go down well when you point that out.
It's not strictly necessary to have BI sex in a Harem but it doesn't disqualify it from being Harem if it has.
Technically this is the definition I think this site prescribes to more or less.

And extra confusion with filtering is also because some Dev's that are not OBD haven't been able to grasped the concept.
So they try to make a game that they claim contains both Harem and That three letter word... hopeing for a larger player base I guess.
And they really don't like being told these two Tags are mutually exclusive concepts .
So it is Tagged as both hence you filter for Harem and actually get a game that is anything but.

Oh there's also this definition:A group of female animals that breed exclusively with a single dominant male.
But thats a whole other headache.

Just sayin.
Well, 'I' think this is a bloody lovely topic and it's totally about this VN and Dimitri should add a tag of his own and it should be "multouple" 'cause that's my made up word and everybody should totally like it and you made some great points that everyone should read and they totally should not have to go to an "off-topic" thread to read them 'cause we can all be right and thus be legends in our own minds after all isn't that what posting in forums is all about and not only that but right now all I wanna do is fuck RaiRai. :p
 

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Haha. Don't think what I said or quoted was going to get blown into such a shit show. I'm an old believer in the different strokes for different folks idea.

I really enjoy this AVN. One of my favorites I've played. I was just making a simple comment how in general, when people have a harem tag, they usually either force all the girls to be bisexual or a majority just so they can have the obligatory girl/girl stuff or for threesomes/orgies, when they don't need to be bisexual for that. And I wasn't complaining about the high (or small) amount of girl/girl H-scenes are in the AVN. I was just pointing out the high quantity of bisexual women that flocked to him, which is a typical thing in AVNs/erotic & harem literature. It's amusing that it's its own trope at this point lol.

But yeah, nothing against polyamory/open relationship stuff, but me personally, I'm more into the polygamy thing when it comes to the typical male power fantasy. I understand needing the couple of girls that are obviously bisexual for the girl/girl content, but I like seeing the interactions/activities plus the tension that can be added or relieved when a straight girl or two are in a threesome situation and having to navigate it while not being peer pressured to be intimate with each other, etc, and how that carries out into normal situations and not just intimate settings. Just my mind thinking about a lot of useless crap when it comes to this stuff rather than just enjoying it lol.

But I do love the option to skip content for people to see content they enjoy. I know you've done it before and always like that. I know a lot more developers are doing that but I still see a lot that don't unless it's the more fringe kinks. I'm one of those that, like the girl/girl stuff since it's been the current topic, some days I enjoy it more and want to see a lot, and other days I'd rather just skip it and not be bothered. If I don't like certain content in a AVN and a developer doesn't add a skip function, I don't really complain about it. I just speed click through it. Never a big chore about that. Most of the time, I'm playing the AVN for the story versus just for the sex anyway.

Oh, and I'm happy that we got one girl wanting to get preggers, especially since I love Katy. I know Dimitry mentioned just having one girl getting pregnant, but I really hope that the MC ends up getting a whole slew of girls preggo and basically having to open up his own nursery for all his little tykes. I love the girls and think they all deserve their own little clones running around.
LOL! Shitshow, naw this is the normal banter on this thread. :ROFLMAO: My Patreons are a quiet bunch. I get very little feedback from them. This thread is a good sounding board for ideas and enables me to engage with players about their observations.

I didn't think you were slamming the story. A couple of pages back comments were made that almost all the girls were bi. I listed all the girls that are not bi. I lumped my thoughts about that together in responding to yours. It's not the case that they are all bi, nor would I want it to be any more than them all being straight. Even though I'm writing a biker porn game, I try to reflect the current state of our dysfunctional society.

I'm with you. Variety is the spice of life.
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