VN Ren'Py Long Road Home [v10 Part 4 Beta Update 2] [OBDGames]

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muschi26

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Dimitri57 said:
Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee, and me were the best years of my life!
Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee, and I were the best years of my life!
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Is that comma after “Dee” in the fix? Because that’s a mistake.

Dimitri57 said:
What's interesting about the I/me is the forum's embedded grammar check doesn't flag it either way. Neither did the grammar program I run the script though. :unsure:

Who the fuck knows? :rolleyes:
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According to the rulebooks, it should be “Dee and me.” You say, “She lives with me,” not “She lives with I.” That being said, as others have pointed out, it’s perfectly valid to have characters use “incorrect” grammar. Plenty of people hypercorrect to “X and I” because they had that construction drilled into their heads in school.

c3p0 said:
Although, I could make a fool out of myself:LOL::geek::
I think it is well established that spelling and grammar are not my strong suit....
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That’s not a mistake. I found a
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post that covers it; essentially, “strange” is an attributive adjective modifying the direct object (“that spelling and grammar are not my strong suit”), akin to a construction such as, “I find him strange,” except that, since the object is a subordinate clause, it has to be replaced by a dummy subject (“it”). Or:
  • “I find [him] [strange],” has the same construction as,
  • “I think [that spelling and grammar are not my strong suit] [well established],” but this sounds confusing, so we change it to,
  • “I think [it (= sub. clause)] [well established] {that spelling and grammar are not my strong suit},” inserting a dummy subject and moving the subordinate clause to the end.
 
ThorinKing

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Dimitri57 said:
The where/were is corrected in the Hotfix.

Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee, and me were the best years of my life!
Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee, and I were the best years of my life!

What's interesting about the I/me is the forum's embedded grammar check doesn't flag it either way. Neither did the grammar program I run the script though. :unsure:

Who the fuck knows? :rolleyes:

I think it well established that spelling and grammar are not my strong suit.... :ROFLMAO:
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Take out the "Dee, and" and read the sentence. If it works, it's correct; if it doesn't, it isn't (this is how I was taught).

The grammatically correct wording is "Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee, and me were the best years of my life!"

Now, it DOES need for the comma after "Dee" to go away, as such: Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee and me were the best years of my life!"

If you still want to indicate a vocal pause after "me", use an ellipsis: "Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee and me...were the best years of my life!" Though, I don't think this is needed.

Here endeth today's grammar lesson. ;)
 
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ThorinKing said:
Take out the "Dee, and" and read the sentence. If it works, it's correct; if it doesn't, it isn't (this is how I was taught).

The grammatically correct wording is "Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee, and me were the best years of my life!"

Now, it DOES need for the comma after "Dee" to go away, as such: Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee and me were the best years of my life!"

If you still want to indicate a vocal pause after "me", use an ellipsis: "Son, I tell you, the years she lived with Dee and me...were the best years of my life!" Though, I don't think this is needed.

Here endeth today's grammar lesson. ;)
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I choose to believe he is also some who subscribes to the idea of the Walken comma. That is to say, it's not entirely dissimilar to the Oxford comma, and is generally used to denote a pause, but not quite as strong as a semicolon or, like in your example, an ellipsis.
 
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Renfield42069 said:
I choose to believe he is also some who subscribes to the idea of the Walken comma. That is to say, it's not entirely dissimilar to the Oxford comma, and is generally used to denote a pause, but not quite as strong as a semicolon or, like in your example, an ellipsis.
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Is there a Shatner comma? :D
 
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Renfield42069 said:
I choose to believe he is also some who subscribes to the idea of the Walken comma. That is to say, it's not entirely dissimilar to the Oxford comma, and is generally used to denote a pause, but not quite as strong as a semicolon or, like in your example, an ellipsis.
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This may be off topic from the titillating grammar lesson, :rolleyes: but one of my claims to fame is sharing a birthday with Christopher Walken and Angus Young of ACDC... :cool: (y)
 
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English native users are often more inconsistent themselves than people trying to learn the language. Still they expect perfection.
 
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