Thanks man. Such a high honor lmao. But to be honest, wasn't really hard to deduce. While Stan/Della are the top in a MC, they are still an outlaw MC. So the ones saying that it's out of character for them to do that, well, they are being naive lol. Dev is a good story writer, but it's not like this was a mystery novel-level of subterfuge and mystery.
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I always had a small bitch bar to keep them from sliding off the back of the P-pad.Even the drunk riding bitch? I have to imagine that stuff messes up the jeans and seats pretty bad.
Back in the day, I'd have the Ol' lady loop her hands inside my belt to hold on when we closed the bar down. That way if she dozed off, she wouldn't fall off one side or the other.
One time at Daytona during Bike Week, (Biker version of "this one time at band camp..."
) she slammed one too many fireball shots at Pub 44. She was so hammered that I bungie corded her to the bitch bar to make sure she didn't fall off on the way back to the campground! 
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I think that just highlights what a shitty plot device it was. Dimitri is bad and should feel bad.
I think that's what bothered me? It felt like false drama for false drama sake.
Everything before and after story-wise points to Barb is responsible for the deaths, but that brief moment of "haha, we are so good at being double crossing and evil" is just disjointed.
I've liked 99.99% of the game so far. Just those two paragraphs of text seemed like they came from a different plot that accidentally was copy/pasted into it.
What I was trying to say about Stan and Della was
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Yeah it clearly wasn't the intent for it to seem like Stan killed his own son. The whole thing was pretty hamfisted in its execution. It wasn't a great idea in the first place, but I think it would have gone over a lot better for everyone if Stan and Della had just pulled the MC aside beforehand and let him (and the player) in on the plan. "We know Barb is responsible but we can't prove it. We need to get Angelica on our side, so we'll have Sluggo plant Quack's ring at the crime scene which you and the girls can magically discover a decade plus later and nobody will question how it is still there or was missed all this time. Angelica will instantly accept it as proof of the Minions carrying out the hit and side with us against Barb." Still a terrible idea, but at least there wouldn't be any ambiguity about what was going on. And the player wouldn't feel insulted by Stan and Della deliberately deceiving them.
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I'll offer you the same answer I gave when this topic came up the last time...
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As I have said before, I'm sure Ryker knew he was supposed to find something or he wouldn't have been sent to look. In other words it didn't matter to him that the ring was a plant. He might have even viewed the whole thing as a last test of his loyalty to the club and, perhaps it was. Could it have lain there in the dust for so long just waiting to be found? Dunno. Have you ever spent any time in the desert? I have. It's a very strange place. Does Reba really buy it? Or does she just want to believe and rationalize escaping from Barb's clutches? Dunno. I do know she really likes being a pole dancer... Heh.
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Hehe... thanks. That's exactly what I needed. My eyes are still a little crusty and I could definitely use a cuppa.
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And all it would have taken was a single line showing him thinking that to communicate it to the player.
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Likely a reasonable suggestion for Dima. Think anyone will present it to him? Probably wouldn't delay the next update by more than a week or two... Hehe JK, Dima. JK
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Mom could hold our hands when we cross the street too...
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Damn! I knew it! Mom always liked you best!Mom could hold our hands when we cross the street too...
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Yeah, thanks. I happened to think after writing that post... Ryker is still just a prospect. He is not a full patched member of the Rogues and, as such, isn't usually privy to "explanations". We know that Stan and Della both entrust him with much more information than a "normal" hangaround or prospect would have.motseer: Valid point about Ryker and the mission. He would absolutely pick up on that. Been a while since I played the game now, so I'm not solid on all details. Comes with age I guess.
I always enjoy a re-read because you pick up on more of these kind of nuances with every read. In fact, right now, I'm at the beginning of episode 9 - the second half of Ryker's prospect initiation party. Della has just revealed that she knows who Reba really is... I think it's quite relevant to the discussion about finding the ring...
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Yet, horny will follow her to the end of the world.
Also I agree with you on the prospect reason. Furthermore if you tell Ryker before he might unintentionally say something he shouldn't - eg. " There it was. ".
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In fairness Barb is not just a vindictive bitch, she's also an ugly old hag. So it's a clear all-around win for Della in my books.
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Wait, did you ACTUALLY just compare Barb with Della? That's like comparing Justin Bieber with Bruce Springsteen......In fairness Barb is not just a vindictive bitch, she's also an ugly old hag. So it's a clear all-around win for Della in my books.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?