VN Others Long Story Short [v0.9 final] [TTrickGames]

[PinkGoddess]

But again, like Dark Horizon said, that isn't NTR, it's corruption. You being an asshole and pushing a girl towards someone else isn't ntr, you literally turn her down.

As in real life, at first you may not like a person and you may even hate them, and maybe just seeing them with another person will make you blossom into what you previously thought did not exist for that person and make you jealous and sad (NTR). To corrupt someone is not to reject her and send her into the arms of another, to corrupt someone is, for example, to make a person totally inexperienced in sex addicted to you and make her almost a sexual slave for you, or make her obey each one of your requests almost ipsofacto without reasoning even the consequences of the facts.

 

[deluges]

As in real life, at first you may not like a person and you may even hate them, and maybe just seeing them with another person will make you blossom into what you previously thought did not exist for that person and make you jealous and sad (NTR). To corrupt someone is not to reject her and send her into the arms of another, to corrupt someone is, for example, to make a person totally inexperienced in sex addicted to you and make her almost a sexual slave for you, or make her obey each one of your requests almost ipsofacto without reasoning even the consequences of the facts.

Not really the case here. When he sees Ann with the bartender he says "That could've been me getting a blowjob" but everything you needed to do to get her to blow the bartender was show zero interest in her. That's called terrible writing. The only ntr in this game revolves around the best friend and his girlfriend. Ann is not ntr, her path is corruption.... the reason that it's corruption is not due to your rejecting her, but from who she chooses instead of you and the path that sets her on. Look at the way she dresses and acts from when you initially meet her to later after she's been with the bartender. That is clearly indicative of corruption.

 

[PinkGoddess]

Not really the case here. When he sees Ann with the bartender he says "That could've been me getting a blowjob" but everything you needed to do to get her to blow the bartender was show zero interest in her. That's called terrible writing. The only ntr in this game revolves around the best friend and his girlfriend. Ann is not ntr, her path is corruption.... the reason that it's corruption is not due to your rejecting her, but from who she chooses instead of you and the path that sets her on. Look at the way she dresses and acts from when you initially meet her to later after she's been with the bartender. That is clearly indicative of corruption.

Why do you think it is so badly written? Do you think that if you do not show interest in a person that person will stay and wait for your show of interest? It is normal, Ann is inexperienced or shy or both, but that does not imply that, if she notices that you pass on her, she cannot go for another boy who interests her (in this case the waiter). The phrase you put in is clearly jealousy, ergo the MC implies that deep down he is envious of not being him, and let's remember that despite everything, the true MC is always the real player, and the NTR is based on showing Those feelings also in ourselves, and this is something more subjective since for me, for example, any sex scene that involves another character other than the MC is NTR because I empathize with the MC and put myself in his shoes. Obviously for you or other people this may not be so extreme and the NTR is only applicable for you when there is a VERY close relationship between the MC and the LI for example, for me, both examples are valid for NTR. And yes, I agree that Ann's path is corruption, but you also understand that there will be people who like Ann very much and can see that path of corruption as NTR by having so much affection or appreciation for her character and that it bothers them to see her be fucked by another character in the game (not my case, I'm from team Vanessa ahah)

 

[deluges]

Why do you think it is so badly written? Do you think that if you do not show interest in a person that person will stay and wait for your show of interest? It is normal, Ann is inexperienced or shy or both, but that does not imply that, if she notices that you pass on her, she cannot go for another boy who interests her (in this case the waiter). The phrase you put in is clearly jealousy, ergo the MC implies that deep down he is envious of not being him, and let's remember that despite everything, the true MC is always the real player, and the NTR is based on showing Those feelings also in ourselves, and this is something more subjective since for me, for example, any sex scene that involves another character other than the MC is NTR because I empathize with the MC and put myself in his shoes. Obviously for you or other people this may not be so extreme and the NTR is only applicable for you when there is a VERY close relationship between the MC and the LI for example, for me, both examples are valid for NTR. And yes, I agree that Ann's path is corruption, but you also understand that there will be people who like Ann very much and can see that path of corruption as NTR by having so much affection or appreciation for her character and that it bothers them to see her be fucked by another character in the game (not my case, I'm from team Vanessa ahah)

It's bad writing because it makes no sense for the mc to be jealous when they turned down the opportunity to be with her. That's dumb. If they were drinking and having a good time, she doesn't throw herself at the mc, and at the end of the night they leave separately but the mc saw Ann blowing the bartender, then that jealousy would make sense and it would also be ntr.

 

[PinkGoddess]

It's bad writing because it makes no sense for the mc to be jealous when they turned down the opportunity to be with her. That's dumb. If they were drinking and having a good time, she doesn't throw herself at the mc, and at the end of the night they leave separately but the mc saw Ann blowing the bartender, then that jealousy would make sense and it would also be ntr.

Your approach is based on a misunderstanding of what NTR would be for someone who loves Ann.

I understand your point, but think that for someone who loves Ann does not care about your example of the scene or the one that is already done in the game, the NTR will be just as "painful" for them either in one way or another. The thing is that the path is obviously corruption, I think I make it clear that yes, that we agree on that, the thing is that for someone who really likes Ann, that path IN ADDITION to being to corrupt her, will be NTR for THEM , It is the same as for me to see Vanessa fuck with others other than the MC, although I KNOW that she is the standard whore of the game, that does not imply that for me NTR is what I would feel when seeing her with other boys.

You may or may not agree with this, of course, but on the subject of feelings it is difficult to try to create a basis for everyone, since we do not all see it in the same way, and of course we do not feel it in the same way or to the same degree.

For example, there are many people who believe that NTR is only NTR when the MC has real feelings for the character in question, a really important bond, while for others the simple fact that another character in the game approaches a girl who is created for the MC is NTR, for me both options are valid (and I am more in favor of the second because I am very empathetic)

 

[deluges]

Your approach is based on a misunderstanding of what NTR would be for someone who loves Ann.

I understand your point, but think that for someone who loves Ann does not care about your example of the scene or the one that is already done in the game, the NTR will be just as "painful" for them either in one way or another. The thing is that the path is obviously corruption, I think I make it clear that yes, that we agree on that, the thing is that for someone who really likes Ann, that path IN ADDITION to being to corrupt her, will be NTR for THEM , It is the same as for me to see Vanessa fuck with others other than the MC, although I KNOW that she is the standard whore of the game, that does not imply that for me NTR is what I would feel when seeing her with other boys.

You may or may not agree with this, of course, but on the subject of feelings it is difficult to try to create a basis for everyone, since we do not all see it in the same way, and of course we do not feel it in the same way or to the same degree.

For example, there are many people who believe that NTR is only NTR when the MC has real feelings for the character in question, a really important bond, while for others the simple fact that another character in the game approaches a girl who is created for the MC is NTR, for me both options are valid (and I am more in favor of the second because I am very empathetic)

Eh, we're not going to agree. If the character had feelings for Ann they wouldn't have rejected her. If they rejected her they wouldn't care that she's with someone else. If the mc doesn't reject Ann, she doesn't end up with the bartender. Makes perfect sense.

 

[PinkGoddess]

Eh, we're not going to agree. If the character had feelings for Ann they wouldn't have rejected her. If they rejected her they wouldn't care that she's with someone else. If the mc doesn't reject Ann, she doesn't end up with the bartender. Makes perfect sense.

I thought I would not have to explain this but hey; It rejects it because the path of love is separated from the path of corruption, if both paths were one, yes, it would make no sense to reject it, but if you want to see that path, you only have to reject it, whether you like it or not.

 

[hmc15]

As in real life, at first you may not like a person and you may even hate them, and maybe just seeing them with another person will make you blossom into what you previously thought did not exist for that person and make you jealous and sad (NTR). To corrupt someone is not to reject her and send her into the arms of another, to corrupt someone is, for example, to make a person totally inexperienced in sex addicted to you and make her almost a sexual slave for you, or make her obey each one of your requests almost ipsofacto without reasoning even the consequences of the facts.

I had this experience with my younger first GF. To this day those sex experiences were my best. She's doing well and is a happy Mommy...with someone else What can ya do?! XD

 

[deluges]

I thought I would not have to explain this but hey; It rejects it because the path of love is separated from the path of corruption, if both paths were one, yes, it would make no sense to reject it, but if you want to see that path, you only have to reject it, whether you like it or not.

And that's why I said it's bad writing. You shouldn't have to select an option that doesn't make any sense to see that.

 

[harsha_26]

And that's why I said it's bad writing. You shouldn't have to select an option that doesn't make any sense to see that.

Somewhere I seen in this thread that ttrick already given his reasons for the planning of ntr. It is not fully developed yet. His idea is to make MC regrets his decision & feel bad while Ann getting fucked by other guys, & it involves he has to see those scenes in coming updates, it is kind of cuckold but unwilling. A perfect plan to make MC feel digested & make it as Netorare Route. Not Netorase (like sharing, happy cuckold etc).

 

[deluges]

Somewhere I seen in this thread that ttrick already given his reasons for the planning of ntr. It is not fully developed yet. His idea is to make MC regrets his decision & feel bad while Ann getting fucked by other guys, & it involves he has to see those scenes in coming updates, it is kind of cuckold but unwilling. A perfect plan to make MC feel digested & make it as Netorare Route. Not Netorase (like sharing, happy cuckold etc).

That would definitely make a lot more sense than what we currently have.

 

[-DarkHorizon-]

A first try at recreating Ann



I actually did this out of memory, without a side-by-side comparison, so it's bound be a bit off. I hope to get it better when I have more time on my hands.
The hair is not the right one but I couldn't find the original (and I searched for it) so I chose one that looked somewhat close.

I'd really appreciate it if people could help in identifying the original assets (e.g. Ann Hair).

 

[-DarkHorizon-]

And first try at Vanessa



I'll dedicate it to PinkGoddess for being the biggest Vanessa fan round here

I worked on this again without a direct side-by-side comparison (Porn games etc. are on a separate PC) and I have to say that I'm more happy about how she turned out compared to Ann. For one, I am satisfied with the hair and optimistic that I've found the right face morphs, though there may be some more fine tuning required (body also).

On another note, I'm getting nowhere with Ann's hair and that vexes me.

 

[PinkGoddess]

And first try at Vanessa

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I'll dedicate it to PinkGoddess for being the biggest Vanessa fan round here

I worked on this again without a direct side-by-side comparison (Porn games etc. are on a separate PC) and I have to say that I'm more happy about how she turned out compared to Ann. For one, I am satisfied with the hair and optimistic that I've found the right face morphs, though there may be some more fine tuning required (body also).

On another note, I'm getting nowhere with Ann's hair and that vexes me.

Awesomeeee work, ty <3 !

 

[lordfridge9]

Disgustang

 

[mommysboiii]

you like the new realse schedule?its not hate butwill the beta have way more content or is the alpha ending the same as the beta ending? and did he work on the alpha 6.1 for 4-5 month and than for 6.2 for 2 weeks? its no hate dont get me wrong I love the game and his cheracters ,its one of the only good games on this site between where it all began,summer is gone,estate dominante and fetish locator.

 

[fabulous007]

I'll dedicate it to PinkGoddess for being the biggest Vanessa fan round here

I challenge him, I would build a whole cathedral for Vanessa !

More seriously, as a long time fan of the character I find your render really good.

 

[Kacper 1601]

When android?

 

[PinkGoddess]

When android?

I guess when the game be released in it final 0.6 they add the android port

 

[SomeOldFart]

I am thinking that Ann really likes the MC, but if you tell the bartender it's OK to ask her for her number at the beginning, then you open up Ann to liking the bartender too. Ann is inexperienced. It was their 1st date so I can understand whether the MC wasn't sure if he liked Ann or not. You don't have to be rude to Ann to have her date the bartender. You can be overly nice, corrupt her and either tell her what to do or let her make her own choice. She will still really like you, but you may not be exclusive unless you choose that way. Will she cheat on you with the bartender once you corrupt her and tell her it's ok to answer the phone? Lets hope so.